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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 00:51:55 GMT, <HLS@nospam.nix> Gave us:
>And, I like to top post. Will do it any time I feel like it. > I like to ignore top posting twits that know absoinglutely nothing about Usenet, and are essentially invaders to the forum... more like interloping street trash. |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:34:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com Gave us:
>. When the patent expired and Dow >Chemical stopped being the biggest producer of R22 and R12 it suddenly >became evil. "Freon" is (was) a DuPont product. |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:34:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com Gave us:
>. When the patent expired and Dow >Chemical stopped being the biggest producer of R22 and R12 it suddenly >became evil. "Freon" is (was) a DuPont product. |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:34:12 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com Gave us:
>. When the patent expired and Dow >Chemical stopped being the biggest producer of R22 and R12 it suddenly >became evil. "Freon" is (was) a DuPont product. |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Ephrg.303$Pa.35787@news1.epix.net: > Eric G. wrote: > >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in >> news:6EudnfjxFP6z8TDZUSdV9g@ptd.net: >> >> >>>I do not believe there is much disagreement about the earth warming, >>>it has been trending upward since the last ice age. >>> >>>mike hunt >> >> >> Well, yes it warmed up after the last ice age, but once it hit a >> level of stability, it has been there for potentially thousands and >> thousands of years with almost no change. Then, about 50 years ago, >> it began to move the median up. And it is still climbing. > > You mean based on data such as this? > > http://www.technologyreview.com/read...830&ch=biztech > > > And claims of scientific consensus such as Al Gore is making(up)? > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597 > > > How about other causes such as changes in solar irradiance? > > http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/cause.htm > > You are being mislead along with many other gullible citizens by > people whose real agenda is far more political than scientific. > > > Matt Well, no, not based on Gore's use of the "hockey stick". That thing has been so convoluted over the years that I wouldn't touch it with a, well, hockey stick. I have always believed that the Earth cycles naturally, as well as the other planets, and stars for that matter. It is funny that almost no one seems to dispute that we had an ice age. Why would it be so hard to believe that we could have the exact opposite? Call it an "Ocean Age" or something similar. Even your own "junkscience" reference doesn't seem to dispute the fact that the earth IS getting warmer. And I said earlier that it has happened before. And I also don't believe that man has any responsibility for it or can do anything about it. Being mislead or gullible would assume that someone was leading me to this conclusion, or that I all of a sudden believe the hockey stick because Al Gore believes it. I have believed this since my college days 20 years ago. And to date, I haven't even seen Al Gore talk about this, or seen whatever movie they are talking about in your refereces, and I probably won't. And I could easily be wrong in my belief that this will happen sooner rather than later. It could be 500 years, or 1000 years before it happens. But I do believe it will happen. And no I don't believe throwing money at it, or any type of political agenda will stop it from happening. Unless we can figure out how to keep water frozen. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Ephrg.303$Pa.35787@news1.epix.net: > Eric G. wrote: > >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in >> news:6EudnfjxFP6z8TDZUSdV9g@ptd.net: >> >> >>>I do not believe there is much disagreement about the earth warming, >>>it has been trending upward since the last ice age. >>> >>>mike hunt >> >> >> Well, yes it warmed up after the last ice age, but once it hit a >> level of stability, it has been there for potentially thousands and >> thousands of years with almost no change. Then, about 50 years ago, >> it began to move the median up. And it is still climbing. > > You mean based on data such as this? > > http://www.technologyreview.com/read...830&ch=biztech > > > And claims of scientific consensus such as Al Gore is making(up)? > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597 > > > How about other causes such as changes in solar irradiance? > > http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/cause.htm > > You are being mislead along with many other gullible citizens by > people whose real agenda is far more political than scientific. > > > Matt Well, no, not based on Gore's use of the "hockey stick". That thing has been so convoluted over the years that I wouldn't touch it with a, well, hockey stick. I have always believed that the Earth cycles naturally, as well as the other planets, and stars for that matter. It is funny that almost no one seems to dispute that we had an ice age. Why would it be so hard to believe that we could have the exact opposite? Call it an "Ocean Age" or something similar. Even your own "junkscience" reference doesn't seem to dispute the fact that the earth IS getting warmer. And I said earlier that it has happened before. And I also don't believe that man has any responsibility for it or can do anything about it. Being mislead or gullible would assume that someone was leading me to this conclusion, or that I all of a sudden believe the hockey stick because Al Gore believes it. I have believed this since my college days 20 years ago. And to date, I haven't even seen Al Gore talk about this, or seen whatever movie they are talking about in your refereces, and I probably won't. And I could easily be wrong in my belief that this will happen sooner rather than later. It could be 500 years, or 1000 years before it happens. But I do believe it will happen. And no I don't believe throwing money at it, or any type of political agenda will stop it from happening. Unless we can figure out how to keep water frozen. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Ephrg.303$Pa.35787@news1.epix.net: > Eric G. wrote: > >> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in >> news:6EudnfjxFP6z8TDZUSdV9g@ptd.net: >> >> >>>I do not believe there is much disagreement about the earth warming, >>>it has been trending upward since the last ice age. >>> >>>mike hunt >> >> >> Well, yes it warmed up after the last ice age, but once it hit a >> level of stability, it has been there for potentially thousands and >> thousands of years with almost no change. Then, about 50 years ago, >> it began to move the median up. And it is still climbing. > > You mean based on data such as this? > > http://www.technologyreview.com/read...830&ch=biztech > > > And claims of scientific consensus such as Al Gore is making(up)? > > http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008597 > > > How about other causes such as changes in solar irradiance? > > http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/cause.htm > > You are being mislead along with many other gullible citizens by > people whose real agenda is far more political than scientific. > > > Matt Well, no, not based on Gore's use of the "hockey stick". That thing has been so convoluted over the years that I wouldn't touch it with a, well, hockey stick. I have always believed that the Earth cycles naturally, as well as the other planets, and stars for that matter. It is funny that almost no one seems to dispute that we had an ice age. Why would it be so hard to believe that we could have the exact opposite? Call it an "Ocean Age" or something similar. Even your own "junkscience" reference doesn't seem to dispute the fact that the earth IS getting warmer. And I said earlier that it has happened before. And I also don't believe that man has any responsibility for it or can do anything about it. Being mislead or gullible would assume that someone was leading me to this conclusion, or that I all of a sudden believe the hockey stick because Al Gore believes it. I have believed this since my college days 20 years ago. And to date, I haven't even seen Al Gore talk about this, or seen whatever movie they are talking about in your refereces, and I probably won't. And I could easily be wrong in my belief that this will happen sooner rather than later. It could be 500 years, or 1000 years before it happens. But I do believe it will happen. And no I don't believe throwing money at it, or any type of political agenda will stop it from happening. Unless we can figure out how to keep water frozen. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote in news:Leirg.35782$VE1.8753
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com: > Very recent Japanese studies have proved that the ozone hole is closing. > It apparently DID do some good to abandon Freon. > > And, I like to top post. Will do it any time I feel like it. > > > "Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message >> >The only thing more arrogant than thinking man caused global warming >> >is thinking man can stop it. >> >> I think we could fix a hole as it were. Right. And I read a study once that showed that countries with more storks had a higher birth rate than countries that didn't. The ban on CFC's has nothing to do with the ozone layer closing. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote in news:Leirg.35782$VE1.8753
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com: > Very recent Japanese studies have proved that the ozone hole is closing. > It apparently DID do some good to abandon Freon. > > And, I like to top post. Will do it any time I feel like it. > > > "Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message >> >The only thing more arrogant than thinking man caused global warming >> >is thinking man can stop it. >> >> I think we could fix a hole as it were. Right. And I read a study once that showed that countries with more storks had a higher birth rate than countries that didn't. The ban on CFC's has nothing to do with the ozone layer closing. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
<HLS@nospam.nix> wrote in news:Leirg.35782$VE1.8753
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com: > Very recent Japanese studies have proved that the ozone hole is closing. > It apparently DID do some good to abandon Freon. > > And, I like to top post. Will do it any time I feel like it. > > > "Roy L. Fuchs" <roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote in message >> >The only thing more arrogant than thinking man caused global warming >> >is thinking man can stop it. >> >> I think we could fix a hole as it were. Right. And I read a study once that showed that countries with more storks had a higher birth rate than countries that didn't. The ban on CFC's has nothing to do with the ozone layer closing. Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"GMach3" <gmach@gkmtradingdot.com> wrote in
news:wmjrg.167476$F_3.7148@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net: > Um, I didn't read all the replies, but has anyone considered that Mars > is getting warmer too? Is that our fault too? Gee, maybe the fact > that the sun is getting HOTTER right now. Sorry, that might also be > an inconvenient truth.... > > This is the same group of scientists who thought we were going through > a cold spell in the 1970s. Gee, maybe you hit on something here.... Hey, did you ever see an incandescent bulb burn out. Right before that happens it gets really bright and hot. Hmmmmm.... Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"GMach3" <gmach@gkmtradingdot.com> wrote in
news:wmjrg.167476$F_3.7148@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net: > Um, I didn't read all the replies, but has anyone considered that Mars > is getting warmer too? Is that our fault too? Gee, maybe the fact > that the sun is getting HOTTER right now. Sorry, that might also be > an inconvenient truth.... > > This is the same group of scientists who thought we were going through > a cold spell in the 1970s. Gee, maybe you hit on something here.... Hey, did you ever see an incandescent bulb burn out. Right before that happens it gets really bright and hot. Hmmmmm.... Eric |
Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"GMach3" <gmach@gkmtradingdot.com> wrote in
news:wmjrg.167476$F_3.7148@newssvr29.news.prodigy. net: > Um, I didn't read all the replies, but has anyone considered that Mars > is getting warmer too? Is that our fault too? Gee, maybe the fact > that the sun is getting HOTTER right now. Sorry, that might also be > an inconvenient truth.... > > This is the same group of scientists who thought we were going through > a cold spell in the 1970s. Gee, maybe you hit on something here.... Hey, did you ever see an incandescent bulb burn out. Right before that happens it gets really bright and hot. Hmmmmm.... Eric |
Re: The debate is over.
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message news:c3psa2p9m2ug3s93cb4rfcft6pbbl7i89j@4ax.com... > > On the bright side, when CO2 increases, so do plants and organisms that > consume it. Vast forests and grasslands, and especially vast expanses of > ocean have enough organisms to have a real effect on reducing CO2. Well, there you have it. We just need more oceans. I nominate Iraq as an appropriate site. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: The debate is over.
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message news:c3psa2p9m2ug3s93cb4rfcft6pbbl7i89j@4ax.com... > > On the bright side, when CO2 increases, so do plants and organisms that > consume it. Vast forests and grasslands, and especially vast expanses of > ocean have enough organisms to have a real effect on reducing CO2. Well, there you have it. We just need more oceans. I nominate Iraq as an appropriate site. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
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