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Dave in Lake Villa 07-01-2006 10:38 PM

Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
is affordable ?


Don P. 07-02-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) scribbled:

> I used to ,


Heh. Funny story. Next door neighbor (not there anymore) was a big foreign-
basher. Especially when I came home with my Mitsu Eclipse. He was only
slightly steamed when I told him it was assembled in Illinois, but he
really blew a gasket when he found out his "American GM truck" was from
Canada!! Shut him up right away! :-)


Don P. 07-02-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) scribbled:

> I used to ,


Heh. Funny story. Next door neighbor (not there anymore) was a big foreign-
basher. Especially when I came home with my Mitsu Eclipse. He was only
slightly steamed when I told him it was assembled in Illinois, but he
really blew a gasket when he found out his "American GM truck" was from
Canada!! Shut him up right away! :-)


Don P. 07-02-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net (Dave in Lake Villa) scribbled:

> I used to ,


Heh. Funny story. Next door neighbor (not there anymore) was a big foreign-
basher. Especially when I came home with my Mitsu Eclipse. He was only
slightly steamed when I told him it was assembled in Illinois, but he
really blew a gasket when he found out his "American GM truck" was from
Canada!! Shut him up right away! :-)


JS 07-02-2006 11:29 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
> is affordable ?


I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.

JS


JS 07-02-2006 11:29 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
> is affordable ?


I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.

JS


JS 07-02-2006 11:29 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
> is affordable ?


I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.

JS


nothermark 07-03-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
wrote:

>Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>> is affordable ?

>
>I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>
>JS


Would you put an old engine inthe back of your Santa Fe? How about
bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.

Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.

nothermark 07-03-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
wrote:

>Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>> is affordable ?

>
>I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>
>JS


Would you put an old engine inthe back of your Santa Fe? How about
bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.

Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.

nothermark 07-03-2006 06:01 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
wrote:

>Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>> is affordable ?

>
>I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>
>JS


Would you put an old engine inthe back of your Santa Fe? How about
bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.

Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.

JS 07-03-2006 08:31 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
nothermark wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>>> is affordable ?

>> I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>> farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>> foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>> low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>> halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>>
>> JS

>
> Would you put an old engine in the back of your Santa Fe? How about
> bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
> pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.


Ironically, I put the Dodge's junkyard (out of a 21k flood-damaged
truck) replacement NV3500 in the back of the 03 when it was almost brand
new. Used an old rubber-back outdoor rug to control the potential mess,
strapped it down tight, no problem for the 140 mile journey home. Of
course, its only 110# empty - people have dogs heavier than that.

Personally I prefer trailers and dolleys/forklifts for moving stuff of
any serious weight. The truck is convenient for some things (ladders,
light-duty tower sections, riding-in-the-back-of-the-truck wireless
coverage testing) but its rather useless/dangerous/inefficient for
anything else. SUV+Trailer offers a stable towing platform and a useful
comfortable vehicle once you're disconnected.

Of course, towing is a drag... At least when one's not towing, they
have half a chance of getting decent fuel economy, whereas the half ton
truck never has a prayer.

> Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
> electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
> they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.


In my case... I'm tapping on a Quanta (Chinese?) built "Dell" laptop...
The cellphone on my desk is a Samsung (South Korean) CDMA phone. The
Dodge is Mexican, the Hyundais are South Korean ;)

JS


JS 07-03-2006 08:31 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
nothermark wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>>> is affordable ?

>> I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>> farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>> foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>> low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>> halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>>
>> JS

>
> Would you put an old engine in the back of your Santa Fe? How about
> bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
> pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.


Ironically, I put the Dodge's junkyard (out of a 21k flood-damaged
truck) replacement NV3500 in the back of the 03 when it was almost brand
new. Used an old rubber-back outdoor rug to control the potential mess,
strapped it down tight, no problem for the 140 mile journey home. Of
course, its only 110# empty - people have dogs heavier than that.

Personally I prefer trailers and dolleys/forklifts for moving stuff of
any serious weight. The truck is convenient for some things (ladders,
light-duty tower sections, riding-in-the-back-of-the-truck wireless
coverage testing) but its rather useless/dangerous/inefficient for
anything else. SUV+Trailer offers a stable towing platform and a useful
comfortable vehicle once you're disconnected.

Of course, towing is a drag... At least when one's not towing, they
have half a chance of getting decent fuel economy, whereas the half ton
truck never has a prayer.

> Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
> electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
> they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.


In my case... I'm tapping on a Quanta (Chinese?) built "Dell" laptop...
The cellphone on my desk is a Samsung (South Korean) CDMA phone. The
Dodge is Mexican, the Hyundais are South Korean ;)

JS


JS 07-03-2006 08:31 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 
nothermark wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:29:06 -0500, JS <jsuter@intrastardot.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
>>> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
>>> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
>>> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
>>> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
>>> is affordable ?

>> I've noticed with some circles of people (like the guys at the local
>> farmer supply) my Santa Fe is frowned upon. Not sure if its
>> foreign-hate, or they think its a high-dollar mommy-taxi (Lexus
>> low-end-RX, etc)... For these folks I find my well-beaten 99 Dodge
>> halfton (an unreliable, gas-guzzling heap of gutless junk) works well.
>>
>> JS

>
> Would you put an old engine in the back of your Santa Fe? How about
> bags of Feed? How much will it tow? The point is don't knock their
> pickups, they suite what they do, your Santa Fe wouldn't.


Ironically, I put the Dodge's junkyard (out of a 21k flood-damaged
truck) replacement NV3500 in the back of the 03 when it was almost brand
new. Used an old rubber-back outdoor rug to control the potential mess,
strapped it down tight, no problem for the 140 mile journey home. Of
course, its only 110# empty - people have dogs heavier than that.

Personally I prefer trailers and dolleys/forklifts for moving stuff of
any serious weight. The truck is convenient for some things (ladders,
light-duty tower sections, riding-in-the-back-of-the-truck wireless
coverage testing) but its rather useless/dangerous/inefficient for
anything else. SUV+Trailer offers a stable towing platform and a useful
comfortable vehicle once you're disconnected.

Of course, towing is a drag... At least when one's not towing, they
have half a chance of getting decent fuel economy, whereas the half ton
truck never has a prayer.

> Stock answer for anyone complaining about my Hyundai is "who built yor
> electronics gear?" I used to be a well paid electronics tech before
> they shipped most of the jobs out of the country.


In my case... I'm tapping on a Quanta (Chinese?) built "Dell" laptop...
The cellphone on my desk is a Samsung (South Korean) CDMA phone. The
Dodge is Mexican, the Hyundais are South Korean ;)

JS


Mooron 07-03-2006 09:59 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
> is affordable ?


I used to give people flack about buying foreign cars until I bought
one.

- Mooron


Mooron 07-03-2006 09:59 PM

Re: Have you caught any flack about buying non-american car(s) ???
 

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> I used to , but now there are such an enormous amount of foreign cars
> on American roads , it has dissipated. Obviously, consumer confidence
> has waned toward American Car Manufacturers which is the reason for GM's
> current woes. Can u blame the average American for wanting a product
> that is highly reliable, has an extraordinary warranty, looks great, and
> is affordable ?


I used to give people flack about buying foreign cars until I bought
one.

- Mooron



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