Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
separated.)

GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in news:1137766872.650735.49820
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
>

Why would you be driving around with your fog lights on? That IS
distracting to most drivers. If it's not foggy out they provide no benefit
except to illuminate about 6 feet in front of your car and annoy oncoming
drivers.

You *do* know there is a switch to turn them off, right?

Eric

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in news:1137766872.650735.49820
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
>

Why would you be driving around with your fog lights on? That IS
distracting to most drivers. If it's not foggy out they provide no benefit
except to illuminate about 6 feet in front of your car and annoy oncoming
drivers.

You *do* know there is a switch to turn them off, right?

Eric

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in news:1137766872.650735.49820
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
>

Why would you be driving around with your fog lights on? That IS
distracting to most drivers. If it's not foggy out they provide no benefit
except to illuminate about 6 feet in front of your car and annoy oncoming
drivers.

You *do* know there is a switch to turn them off, right?

Eric

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
> Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
> it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
> they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
> necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
> method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
> both at the same height.
>
> BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
> Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
> headlights properly.

The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
> Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
> it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
> they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
> necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
> method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
> both at the same height.
>
> BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
> Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
> headlights properly.

The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
> Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
> it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
> they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
> necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
> method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
> both at the same height.
>
> BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
> Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
> headlights properly.

The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137766872.650735.49820@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
I'm getting flashed with only the low beams - no driving lights - on. I'm
going to submit it to NHTSA. I suggest all others that have the same problem
do the same.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137766872.650735.49820@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
I'm getting flashed with only the low beams - no driving lights - on. I'm
going to submit it to NHTSA. I suggest all others that have the same problem
do the same.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

"GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137766872.650735.49820@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi, Bob. Sorry to hear about your adjustment woes at the dealership.
> I live in neighboring Virginia and notice when I visit my small
> hometown that oncoming drivers sometimes flash their lights. This
> occurred in my 96 Dodge Avenger, 2002 Sonata, and 2006 Sonata. I think
> the connection is the driving/fog lights on all three vehicles. I
> suspect some drivers see four distinct lights and assume high beams are
> on. I do not experience this in the city (but lanes are often futher
> separated.)
>
> GeoUSA, moderator www.HyundaiExchange.com
>
I'm getting flashed with only the low beams - no driving lights - on. I'm
going to submit it to NHTSA. I suggest all others that have the same problem
do the same.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Bob wrote:

> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
>
>>Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
>>it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
>>they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
>>necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
>>method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
>>both at the same height.
>>
>>BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
>>Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
>>headlights properly.
>
>
> The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
> road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
> oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
> vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
> they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
> the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
> lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
large dip.


Matt

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Bob wrote:

> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
>
>>Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
>>it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
>>they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
>>necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
>>method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
>>both at the same height.
>>
>>BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
>>Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
>>headlights properly.
>
>
> The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
> road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
> oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
> vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
> they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
> the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
> lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
large dip.


Matt

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Bob wrote:

> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
>
>>Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal lines on
>>it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your headlights so
>>they both project to the same line on the wall. Test drive it. If
>>necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the lights. This
>>method allows you to adjust your lights in small increments and keep them
>>both at the same height.
>>
>>BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the headlights and
>>Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the equipment to adjust the
>>headlights properly.
>
>
> The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark straight
> road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and blinds the
> oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that they use for ALL
> vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the dealer has set them, and
> they still blind oncoming traffic. I have seen this for myself driving at
> the car on a two lane road. There is something very different about the
> lights on this car from those that I have owned previously.

Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
large dip.


Matt

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
>>
>>> Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal
>>> lines on it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your
>>> headlights so they both project to the same line on the wall. Test
>>> drive it. If necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the
>>> lights. This method allows you to adjust your lights in small
>>> increments and keep them both at the same height.
>>>
>>> BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the
>>> headlights and Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the
>>> equipment to adjust the headlights properly.
>>
>>
>>
>> The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark
>> straight road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and
>> blinds the oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that
>> they use for ALL vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the
>> dealer has set them, and they still blind oncoming traffic. I have
>> seen this for myself driving at the car on a two lane road. There is
>> something very different about the lights on this car from those that
>> I have owned previously.
>
>
> Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
> wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
> have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
> This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
> on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
> little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
> driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
> flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
> a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
> driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
> the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
> beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
> have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
> large dip.

The point of having the sharp cutoff on the left side of the beam is to
NOT blind drivers in the opposite lane. The right side of the beam is
not cut off, so it can illuminate road signs. Overall, this scheme works
pretty well. It's nothing new, as I had Hella headlights with a similar
pattern 25 years ago. Back then, they weren't street legal, since they
weren't sealed beams, which were still required by the DOT at the time.

Re: Headlights on 2006 Sonata
 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Bob wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:2x5Af.9982$8r1.3141@trndny01...
>>
>>> Find a level place to park ~10'in front of a wall with horizontal
>>> lines on it, such as bricks, concrete blocks or siding. Adjust your
>>> headlights so they both project to the same line on the wall. Test
>>> drive it. If necessary, come back to the same place and re-adjust the
>>> lights. This method allows you to adjust your lights in small
>>> increments and keep them both at the same height.
>>>
>>> BTW, there are DOT specifications for the adjustment of the
>>> headlights and Hyundai provides specs. The dealer SHOULD have the
>>> equipment to adjust the headlights properly.
>>
>>
>>
>> The specified distance is 118.1 inches. I can adjust them on a dark
>> straight road, but there appears to be a second beam that juts up, and
>> blinds the oncoming drivers. The dealer uses marks on the wall that
>> they use for ALL vehicles. I've adjusted them DOWN from where the
>> dealer has set them, and they still blind oncoming traffic. I have
>> seen this for myself driving at the car on a two lane road. There is
>> something very different about the lights on this car from those that
>> I have owned previously.
>
>
> Do you see this second beam if you pull up to within 10' or so of a
> wall? I know that many of the new cars with the reflector headlights
> have a very sharp cut-off compared to the old sealed beam headlights.
> This causes the lights to appear to be flashing when an oncoming car is
> on a undulating road as the intensity changes very quickly with just a
> little vertical distance. I personally don't like this either as a
> driver of such a vehicle or as someone approaching such a vehicle. The
> flashing affect is annoying when coming at you and the sharp cut-off is
> a real pain when driving in the hilly terrain around my house. When
> driving down into a valley, you can't see up the other side at all as
> the beam cuts off so sharply. The old sealed beams had such a diffuse
> beam that you got enough light going sideways and upwards that you still
> have some sight distance even when approaching the bottom of a valley or
> large dip.

The point of having the sharp cutoff on the left side of the beam is to
NOT blind drivers in the opposite lane. The right side of the beam is
not cut off, so it can illuminate road signs. Overall, this scheme works
pretty well. It's nothing new, as I had Hella headlights with a similar
pattern 25 years ago. Back then, they weren't street legal, since they
weren't sealed beams, which were still required by the DOT at the time.