Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:46:12 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>What brand of wires and plugs were installed? Some aftermarket wires are
>junk right out of the box.
>
>Remove the cover from the engine and check underneath. You may find the
>source of the electrical problems there.

The car has been maintained at a Hyundai dealership. I assume that
they will use OEM parts but I really have no clue.

This time the car went to an independent garage. The scan and scope
test indicates the a complete tune up is needed including wires and
plugs. Any damage to the catco will have to be assessed after the
tuneup.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:46:12 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>What brand of wires and plugs were installed? Some aftermarket wires are
>>junk right out of the box.
>>
>>Remove the cover from the engine and check underneath. You may find the
>>source of the electrical problems there.
>
>
> The car has been maintained at a Hyundai dealership. I assume that
> they will use OEM parts but I really have no clue.

I'm sure that's the case.

> This time the car went to an independent garage. The scan and scope
> test indicates the a complete tune up is needed including wires and
> plugs.

Did you check it out yourself, first?

Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
what was done and how.

There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
the air filter, too.

> Any damage to the catco will have to be assessed after the
> tuneup.

Hopefully, there won't be any residual problems.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:46:12 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>What brand of wires and plugs were installed? Some aftermarket wires are
>>junk right out of the box.
>>
>>Remove the cover from the engine and check underneath. You may find the
>>source of the electrical problems there.
>
>
> The car has been maintained at a Hyundai dealership. I assume that
> they will use OEM parts but I really have no clue.

I'm sure that's the case.

> This time the car went to an independent garage. The scan and scope
> test indicates the a complete tune up is needed including wires and
> plugs.

Did you check it out yourself, first?

Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
what was done and how.

There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
the air filter, too.

> Any damage to the catco will have to be assessed after the
> tuneup.

Hopefully, there won't be any residual problems.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:46:12 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>What brand of wires and plugs were installed? Some aftermarket wires are
>>junk right out of the box.
>>
>>Remove the cover from the engine and check underneath. You may find the
>>source of the electrical problems there.
>
>
> The car has been maintained at a Hyundai dealership. I assume that
> they will use OEM parts but I really have no clue.

I'm sure that's the case.

> This time the car went to an independent garage. The scan and scope
> test indicates the a complete tune up is needed including wires and
> plugs.

Did you check it out yourself, first?

Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
what was done and how.

There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
the air filter, too.

> Any damage to the catco will have to be assessed after the
> tuneup.

Hopefully, there won't be any residual problems.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>
>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>what was done and how.
>
>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>the air filter, too.
>

I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
professionals. The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new. I will leave the old parts
to the garage.

What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
and scan test?

1. wires and plugs
2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
3. valve timing

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>
>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>what was done and how.
>
>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>the air filter, too.
>

I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
professionals. The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new. I will leave the old parts
to the garage.

What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
and scan test?

1. wires and plugs
2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
3. valve timing

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>
>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>what was done and how.
>
>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>the air filter, too.
>

I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
professionals. The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new. I will leave the old parts
to the garage.

What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
and scan test?

1. wires and plugs
2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
3. valve timing

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>>
>>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>>what was done and how.
>>
>>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>>the air filter, too.
>
> I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
> professionals.

That may have been a mistake.

> The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
> high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new.

OK.

> I will leave the old parts to the garage.

Why? You paid for them, didn't you? If they're relatively new, they'll
make good spares.

> What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
> and scan test?
>
> 1. wires and plugs
> 2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
> 3. valve timing

There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
make them true "professionals".

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>>
>>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>>what was done and how.
>>
>>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>>the air filter, too.
>
> I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
> professionals.

That may have been a mistake.

> The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
> high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new.

OK.

> I will leave the old parts to the garage.

Why? You paid for them, didn't you? If they're relatively new, they'll
make good spares.

> What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
> and scan test?
>
> 1. wires and plugs
> 2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
> 3. valve timing

There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
make them true "professionals".

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:39 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Did you check it out yourself, first?
>>
>>Make sure the garage saves the old parts. If the problem turns out to be
>>something else, the old parts will make good spares. This is also work
>>you should consider doing yourself, as it's easy and at least you know
>>what was done and how.
>>
>>There's really nothing more to a "tune-up" unless you want to replace
>>the air filter, too.
>
> I did not bother checking it out first and decided to leave it to the
> professionals.

That may have been a mistake.

> The tuneup must be more to it because it comes with a
> high cost. The OEM air filter is brand new.

OK.

> I will leave the old parts to the garage.

Why? You paid for them, didn't you? If they're relatively new, they'll
make good spares.

> What other items should be in a complete $300 tune up with $100 scope
> and scan test?
>
> 1. wires and plugs
> 2. oil and filter (2000km earlier than scheduled)
> 3. valve timing

There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
make them true "professionals".

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:50:44 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
>plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
>2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
>"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
>screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
>make them true "professionals".

I have a feeling that I am not getting the best value for my money
because the car was running fine before my ordeal. I will see what is
on the itemized bill when I pick up my car. Would be nice if I also
got a coolant flush, transmission flush and new fuel filter.

It is too bad that I did not follow your good advice and check the
plugs and wires. Next time the car is misfiring, it will be the first
things to be checked.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:50:44 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
>plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
>2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
>"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
>screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
>make them true "professionals".

I have a feeling that I am not getting the best value for my money
because the car was running fine before my ordeal. I will see what is
on the itemized bill when I pick up my car. Would be nice if I also
got a coolant flush, transmission flush and new fuel filter.

It is too bad that I did not follow your good advice and check the
plugs and wires. Next time the car is misfiring, it will be the first
things to be checked.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:50:44 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
>plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
>2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
>"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
>screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
>make them true "professionals".

I have a feeling that I am not getting the best value for my money
because the car was running fine before my ordeal. I will see what is
on the itemized bill when I pick up my car. Would be nice if I also
got a coolant flush, transmission flush and new fuel filter.

It is too bad that I did not follow your good advice and check the
plugs and wires. Next time the car is misfiring, it will be the first
things to be checked.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:50:44 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
>>plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
>>2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
>>"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
>>screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
>>make them true "professionals".
>
>
> I have a feeling that I am not getting the best value for my money
> because the car was running fine before my ordeal. I will see what is
> on the itemized bill when I pick up my car. Would be nice if I also
> got a coolant flush, transmission flush and new fuel filter.

With all due respect, these are things you should find out BEFORE you
agree to any service.

> It is too bad that I did not follow your good advice and check the
> plugs and wires. Next time the car is misfiring, it will be the first
> things to be checked.

Live and learn, I guess.

Re: Hosed off engine bay and now car is hosed
 

accent wrote:
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 00:50:44 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>There is no way you should be spending $300 on a tune up. Wires and
>>plugs should be under $100. If you don't need an oil change for another
>>2K miles, don't do it. There is no adjustment for valve timing. $100 for
>>"scope and scan" is ridiculous, too. It sounds like you're getting
>>screwed. Just because someone gets paid for working on cars, it doesn't
>>make them true "professionals".
>
>
> I have a feeling that I am not getting the best value for my money
> because the car was running fine before my ordeal. I will see what is
> on the itemized bill when I pick up my car. Would be nice if I also
> got a coolant flush, transmission flush and new fuel filter.

With all due respect, these are things you should find out BEFORE you
agree to any service.

> It is too bad that I did not follow your good advice and check the
> plugs and wires. Next time the car is misfiring, it will be the first
> things to be checked.

Live and learn, I guess.