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Tom 10-28-2008 10:28 PM

How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it cost
to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?

I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels" the
same as the Saturn clutch.



Bob M 10-28-2008 11:09 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
Tom wrote:

> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it
> cost
> to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>
> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels"
> the same as the Saturn clutch.


Don't laugh... but I used to drive the car up against something solid like a
telephone pole or cement wall and slowly let the clutch out. If its good
the engine will stall. If there is slippage the engine will continue to
run and you will soon smell the burning.

Cost to repair? About $642 to $843. You can check for repair costs at
www.repairpal.com

Good luck.


Mike Marlow 10-29-2008 09:22 AM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 

"Bob M" <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> wrote in message
news:ge8k71$uuk$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
>> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it
>> cost
>> to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>>
>> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels"
>> the same as the Saturn clutch.

>
> Don't laugh... but I used to drive the car up against something solid like
> a
> telephone pole or cement wall and slowly let the clutch out. If its good
> the engine will stall. If there is slippage the engine will continue to
> run and you will soon smell the burning.
>


That's a time honored test of a clutch. Do drive up to that pole slowly
though...

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Voyager 10-29-2008 04:59 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
Tom wrote:
> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it cost
> to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>
> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels" the
> same as the Saturn clutch.
>
>


What makes you think it is "weak" and what does "weak" mean to you? If
it feels the same as your current car, what is your concern?

An easy test for slippage is to drive in high gear at 55 MPH and floor
the throttle. If the RPM increases quickly with little increase in MPH
and then drops again when you let off the throttle, you have slippage.
If the RPM increases uniformly with MPH, then all is fine.

Matt

Voyager 10-29-2008 05:00 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
Bob M wrote:
> Tom wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
>> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it
>> cost
>> to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>>
>> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels"
>> the same as the Saturn clutch.

>
> Don't laugh... but I used to drive the car up against something solid like a
> telephone pole or cement wall and slowly let the clutch out. If its good
> the engine will stall. If there is slippage the engine will continue to
> run and you will soon smell the burning.


No laughing here. It isn't polite to laugh at stupidity.

Matt

Voyager 10-29-2008 05:01 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Bob M" <r.mariotti@fdcx.net> wrote in message
> news:ge8k71$uuk$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Tom wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
>>> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it
>>> cost
>>> to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>>>
>>> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels"
>>> the same as the Saturn clutch.

>> Don't laugh... but I used to drive the car up against something solid like
>> a
>> telephone pole or cement wall and slowly let the clutch out. If its good
>> the engine will stall. If there is slippage the engine will continue to
>> run and you will soon smell the burning.
>>

>
> That's a time honored test of a clutch. Do drive up to that pole slowly
> though...


Yes, stupidity is timeless... :-)

Matt

hyundaitech 10-29-2008 07:39 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
I've been more aggressive than what Matt suggests if I think there's a
potential problem. Matt's test, abd Bob's, too, are both good tests to
tell if you'll need a clutch now.

If I think it's likely a clutch will be needed in the near future, I'll
drive the car about 20MPH, depress the clutch, shift to third gear, rev
the engine to about 3,000 RPM, and release the clutch while the engine is
revving. The RPMs should quickly drop to around 1000 (or whatever is
appropriate for 20 MPH in third gear-- you can determine this RPM on your
test drive). If it doesn't drop quickly to the appropriate RPM, you'll be
needing a clutch soon.

DO NOT do this test more than once and DO NOT wait a prolonged period to
see if the engine will RPM will come down. This test is abusive to the
clutch and needs to be kept to the minimum amount of time possible.

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Voyager 10-30-2008 08:51 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
hyundaitech wrote:
> I've been more aggressive than what Matt suggests if I think there's a
> potential problem. Matt's test, abd Bob's, too, are both good tests to
> tell if you'll need a clutch now.
>
> If I think it's likely a clutch will be needed in the near future, I'll
> drive the car about 20MPH, depress the clutch, shift to third gear, rev
> the engine to about 3,000 RPM, and release the clutch while the engine is
> revving. The RPMs should quickly drop to around 1000 (or whatever is
> appropriate for 20 MPH in third gear-- you can determine this RPM on your
> test drive). If it doesn't drop quickly to the appropriate RPM, you'll be
> needing a clutch soon.
>
> DO NOT do this test more than once and DO NOT wait a prolonged period to
> see if the engine will RPM will come down. This test is abusive to the
> clutch and needs to be kept to the minimum amount of time possible.


That is my concern with the "pole" test. It is very abusive and really
for no good reason. If the clutch doesn't slip under full throttle in
high gear (which is when the maximum torque is being transferred to the
drive train), what is the worry?

Matt

Tom 10-30-2008 09:22 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 

"Voyager" <m.whiting@computer.org> wrote in message
news:L84Ok.402$xa2.195@newsfe06.iad...
> Tom wrote:
>> I'm looking to buy a '06 Elantra Hatchback Limited GT w/ 51K miles on it.
>> The clutch seems weak. How do I test it for slippage? How much does it
>> cost to replace it? Should I also post this question in another forum?
>>
>> I curently drive a Saturn with 121K miles and the Elantra clutch "feels"
>> the same as the Saturn clutch.

>
> What makes you think it is "weak" and what does "weak" mean to you? If it
> feels the same as your current car, what is your concern?


my current car has121k miles of urban driving and the clutch is starting to
slip

> An easy test for slippage is to drive in high gear at 55 MPH and floor the
> throttle. If the RPM increases quickly with little increase in MPH and
> then drops again when you let off the throttle, you have slippage. If the
> RPM increases uniformly with MPH, then all is fine.
>
> Matt




Tom 10-30-2008 09:24 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
news:7ed9a6fc37248a465f157d0d36fc4693@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> I've been more aggressive than what Matt suggests if I think there's a
> potential problem. Matt's test, abd Bob's, too, are both good tests to
> tell if you'll need a clutch now.
>
> If I think it's likely a clutch will be needed in the near future, I'll
> drive the car about 20MPH, depress the clutch, shift to third gear, rev
> the engine to about 3,000 RPM, and release the clutch while the engine is
> revving. The RPMs should quickly drop to around 1000 (or whatever is
> appropriate for 20 MPH in third gear-- you can determine this RPM on your
> test drive). If it doesn't drop quickly to the appropriate RPM, you'll be
> needing a clutch soon.
>
> DO NOT do this test more than once and DO NOT wait a prolonged period to
> see if the engine will RPM will come down. This test is abusive to the
> clutch and needs to be kept to the minimum amount of time possible.


thanks, i'll try it.
>
>




hyundaitech 11-03-2008 04:02 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
If it's slipping under full throttle in high gear, the clutch needs to be
replaced now. The other, more abusive tests do a better job of telling
you it'll need to be replaced soon (but not necessarily right away).

--
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More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html


Voyager 11-03-2008 07:33 PM

Re: How Can I Test a clutch for Slippage?
 
hyundaitech wrote:
> If it's slipping under full throttle in high gear, the clutch needs to be
> replaced now. The other, more abusive tests do a better job of telling
> you it'll need to be replaced soon (but not necessarily right away).


If it doesn't need to be replaced now, then I don't want to know about
it! :-)

Matt


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