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Jerimiah 05-28-2007 02:43 AM

How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
Anybody know how I can change the idle speed in my Santa Fe ?

Thanks.



Edwin Pawlowski 05-28-2007 07:50 AM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 

"Jerimiah" <JMN@home.ng> wrote in message
news:f3dtn8$49c$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Anybody know how I can change the idle speed in my Santa Fe ?
>
> Thanks.
>

Re-program the computer?

If you want to go up, you may be able to put a physical block in the
throttle linkage, if you want to go down, I doubt you can do much.



Zotto 05-28-2007 05:49 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:Skz6i.7976$4Y.6016@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
>
> If you want to go up, you may be able to put a physical block in the
> throttle linkage, if you want to go down, I doubt you can do much.


But the point is, why?


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Dave in Lake Villa 05-29-2007 07:38 AM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
'Anybody know how I can change the idle speed in my Santa Fe ?
Thanks.'

REPLY: I went thru this with my Hyundai local Service Dept soon after i
got my 2002 SantaFe as i didnt like the unecessary high revs when the
car was first started (especially in sub zero temps). They said that
its just the way it comes from the factory. After a bit of questioning
and personal exploration, I learned the workings of the device that
controls Idle Speed on this SUV. Its a black colored device located
right next to the throttle valve assembly and its held on by 2 bolts
with a plug in wire harness. It is simple to remove . Inside, there are
two small holes about the size of a dime. I got some sheetmetal and cut
a perfect template to fit the entire flanged area of the Device . I then
made two smaller holes in the sheetmetal directly over the present holes
in the Device , used sealant on the perimeter of the sheetmetal template
(both sides), then applied it before putting the Device back on.
Started up the car, and the idle was too low and nearly stalled the car.
So, i removed it again , made the holes slightly larger in the
sheetmetal , and reassembled. Fired up the car and the idle speed was to
my liking.

Before, the idle speed when cold, was almost 2,000 rpms and when warmed
up was 950 rpms. Now, it is 1200 rpms and 800 rpms respectively. I
picked up 1 mpg more in fuel economy and the transmission shifts far
smoother when going from Park to Drive and Park to Reverse.

Dont know if you want to go to the trouble as i did, but its a simple
permanent cure , doesnt cause any codes to come up, nobody can tell
from the outside of the Device thats its been altered, and has the
benefits as i described above.

Dave
2002 SantaFe
2.7 litre


hyundaitech 05-29-2007 08:27 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
Your idle speed is controlled by computer. *Do not* adjust the cable to
hold the throttle open as suggested by another poster. This will result
in other undesireable symptoms and possibly a check engine lamp.

Why do you wish to change the idle speed?


Jerimiah 05-29-2007 10:00 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
"Dave in Lake Villa" <DaveInLakeVilla@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3344-465C10D2-105@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> 'Anybody know how I can change the idle speed in my Santa Fe ?
> Thanks.'
>
> REPLY: I went thru this with my Hyundai local Service Dept soon after i
> got my 2002 SantaFe as i didnt like the unecessary high revs when the
> car was first started (especially in sub zero temps). They said that
> its just the way it comes from the factory. After a bit of questioning
> and personal exploration, I learned the workings of the device that
> controls Idle Speed on this SUV. Its a black colored device located
> right next to the throttle valve assembly and its held on by 2 bolts
> with a plug in wire harness. It is simple to remove . Inside, there are
> two small holes about the size of a dime. I got some sheetmetal and cut
> a perfect template to fit the entire flanged area of the Device . I then
> made two smaller holes in the sheetmetal directly over the present holes
> in the Device , used sealant on the perimeter of the sheetmetal template
> (both sides), then applied it before putting the Device back on.
> Started up the car, and the idle was too low and nearly stalled the car.
> So, i removed it again , made the holes slightly larger in the
> sheetmetal , and reassembled. Fired up the car and the idle speed was to
> my liking.
>
> Before, the idle speed when cold, was almost 2,000 rpms and when warmed
> up was 950 rpms. Now, it is 1200 rpms and 800 rpms respectively. I
> picked up 1 mpg more in fuel economy and the transmission shifts far
> smoother when going from Park to Drive and Park to Reverse.
>
> Dont know if you want to go to the trouble as i did, but its a simple
> permanent cure , doesnt cause any codes to come up, nobody can tell
> from the outside of the Device thats its been altered, and has the
> benefits as i described above.
>
> Dave
> 2002 SantaFe
> 2.7 litre


Thanks.



Jerimiah 05-29-2007 10:02 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
news:ac2c93dbca24d41e139c4cd4ff49483a@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Your idle speed is controlled by computer. *Do not* adjust the cable to
> hold the throttle open as suggested by another poster. This will result
> in other undesireable symptoms and possibly a check engine lamp.
>
> Why do you wish to change the idle speed?


It's currently "idling" at about 2,000rpm which also causes problems with
the gear changing.
In my old car I used to just turn a screw to adjust the idling.

Cheers.



Bob 05-29-2007 10:50 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
Jerimiah wrote:
> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> news:ac2c93dbca24d41e139c4cd4ff49483a@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> Your idle speed is controlled by computer. *Do not* adjust the cable to
>> hold the throttle open as suggested by another poster. This will result
>> in other undesireable symptoms and possibly a check engine lamp.
>>
>> Why do you wish to change the idle speed?

>
> It's currently "idling" at about 2,000rpm which also causes problems with
> the gear changing.
> In my old car I used to just turn a screw to adjust the idling.
>
> Cheers.
>
>

I also miss the days when I could turn a screw to adjust the idle and if
your engine stopped running you could quickly diagnose and fix it.
They're over. Rigging up something to change your idle speed is asking
for trouble. Hyundaitech said it best- it WILL result in other
undesirable symptoms. The reason it idles fast sometimes is to warm it
to operating temperature quickly, saving fuel and reducing pollution.
Turn your radio up and know the computer is doing it's job well.

Edwin Pawlowski 05-29-2007 11:24 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 

"Jerimiah" <JMN@home.com> wrote in message
>> Why do you wish to change the idle speed?

>
> It's currently "idling" at about 2,000rpm which also causes problems with
> the gear changing.
> In my old car I used to just turn a screw to adjust the idling.
>


Ah, then you don't want to change the idle speed, you want to fix the
underlying problem. Yes, there is something wrong if it is idling at 2k
rpm. There can be a lot of reasons for that, such as sticking throttle
linkage, bad sensors, broken vacuum lines, etc.



Zotto 05-30-2007 07:19 AM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
>. There can be a lot of reasons for that,

Intake air temp sensor?



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Edwin Pawlowski 05-30-2007 11:38 AM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 

"Bob" <fweem1974@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:YfSdnYwHRNsSe8HbnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com. ..

> I also miss the days when I could turn a screw to adjust the idle and if
> your engine stopped running you could quickly diagnose and fix it. They're
> over.


I don't miss them at all. Last time I had a car quit on my was my '83 Olds
Cutlass with 150,000 miles on it. Last time I had to fiddle with an idle
screw was, well, a very long time ago. Overall, the reliability of today's
engines and the amount of "tuneup" they need is far superior than anything
from the good old days.



hyundaitech 05-30-2007 12:43 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
Probably not. Air temp is a minor player in fuel management. Coolant temp
is a much more likely cause.


hyundaitech 05-30-2007 12:45 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
I'm with Edwin. If your idle continues at 2000 RPM anytime other than
immediately after a cold start, there's something wrong that needs to be
corrected. You might start by checking for vacuum leaks or, if your check
engine lamp is on, having the codes read.


Zotto 05-30-2007 01:42 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:9a188196e49cb01c3872a49f71be1a77@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Probably not. Air temp is a minor player in fuel management. Coolant
> temp
> is a much more likely cause.
>


I thought so as if there is a reading of a very low temperature at startup
idle speed is increased.



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headseyewin@earthlink.net 05-30-2007 09:45 PM

Re: How to change Santa Fe's idle speed ?
 
On May 30, 8:38 am, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "Bob" <fweem1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:YfSdnYwHRNsSe8HbnZ2dnUVZ_syunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > I also miss the days when I could turn a screw to adjust the idle and if
> > your engine stopped running you could quickly diagnose and fix it. They're
> > over.

>
> I don't miss them at all. Last time I had a car quit on my was my '83 Olds
> Cutlass with 150,000 miles on it. Last time I had to fiddle with an idle
> screw was, well, a very long time ago. Overall, the reliability of today's
> engines and the amount of "tuneup" they need is far superior than anything
> from the good old days.


To an extent, you're both right and wrong.
Today, if your late model car dies, (even if you only run out of gas
and burn up the electric fuel pump) you're completely ed.
No more looking for a wire or hose that came loose.
Just have it towed to a dealership for one of those $1000 fixes (if
you're out of warranty)----------HAL



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