Hyundai has come a long way
 

I looked at the new 2006 Sonata and compared it to the 2005. One thing
I didn't like about Hyundai is that on the sticker it always shows that
the car is more polluting than the average new vehicle. This isn't the
case with the new Sonata.

The new Sonata had an L4 engine with 16 valves. It used a serpentine
belt while the Elantra still used several smaller belts.

Inside the new Sonata was an interior up there with the larger family
car the Taurus or Sable. Only the new Sonata falls a little short on
rear seat leg room. The Sonata had exterior door handles like those on
newer VW's and Nissans.

I loved the sleek look of the newer Sonatas. Gone is the Goofy Hyundai
look with weird shaped tail lights and head lights. It's a car I
wouldn't mind driving at all, so long as it came equipped with a 5
speed manual transaxle.

Overall the new Sonata is very impressive. Good MPG equipped with an
auto, nice interior, clock and radio mounted high up for ease of use.

I have always been a bit iffy about buying and or driving cars from
Japan for two reasons: 1 It's a trend thing and I hate trends, and 2
Hondas and Toyotas are ridiculously overrated. Sure their great cars
but not nearly as great as everyone seems to make them out to be. Not
even close.

But if Hyundai can keep this up than it will be a car company that not
only offers great cars but will also start charging higher prices since
the public's interest peaks.

I didn't mind the look of the new Tucson either, my beef on it is that
it's
AWD set up runs with 60/40 -- more power up front than on back. What a
lousy set up, even if it does have a locking differential when the
going gets tough.

In the End, it looks like Korea is getting up there with automobile
manufacturing. It's cars are not perfect (and no car is) Looking under
the hoods I saw the welds on the cars. Great cars never have messy
welds. It's obvious the welding techniques are still done the old
fashion way. VW on the other hand uses lasers to weld the unit body
together.

Sure a Hyundai might be a good car for the money. But in the end it's
really up to the individual to decide what's right for them. I for
example always shunned the brand because I never liked the exterior
look. Odd shapes and angles and such, never looks right to me. But
the New Sonata isn't bad looking, I'm just wondering how it might hold
up being a new platform and all.

About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
overall mentality towards Korean brands.

To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
a manual transmission.

Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
culture. Kim Chi anyone?

Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
the case with the Koreans.

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

>
> Overall the new Sonata is very impressive. Good MPG equipped with an
> auto, nice interior, clock and radio mounted high up for ease of use.
>
> I have always been a bit iffy about buying and or driving cars from
> Japan for two reasons: 1 It's a trend thing and I hate trends, and 2
> Hondas and Toyotas are ridiculously overrated. Sure their great cars
> but not nearly as great as everyone seems to make them out to be. Not
> even close.
>
> But if Hyundai can keep this up than it will be a car company that not
> only offers great cars but will also start charging higher prices since
> the public's interest peaks.
>
> I didn't mind the look of the new Tucson either, my beef on it is that
> it's
> AWD set up runs with 60/40 -- more power up front than on back. What a
> lousy set up, even if it does have a locking differential when the
> going gets tough.
>
> In the End, it looks like Korea is getting up there with automobile
> manufacturing. It's cars are not perfect (and no car is) Looking under
> the hoods I saw the welds on the cars. Great cars never have messy
> welds. It's obvious the welding techniques are still done the old
> fashion way. VW on the other hand uses lasers to weld the unit body
> together.
>
> Sure a Hyundai might be a good car for the money. But in the end it's
> really up to the individual to decide what's right for them. I for
> example always shunned the brand because I never liked the exterior
> look. Odd shapes and angles and such, never looks right to me. But
> the New Sonata isn't bad looking, I'm just wondering how it might hold
> up being a new platform and all.
>
> About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
> Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
> Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
> It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
> reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
> overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>
> To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
> it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
> Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
> breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
> long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
> my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
> a manual transmission.
>
> Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
> think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
> before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
> culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>
> Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
> white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
> might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
> no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
> as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
> Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
> the case with the Koreans.
>
.......Now there's a lot of twisted logic.......LOL

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

On 6 Jun 2005 18:01:16 -0700, eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>
>About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
>Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
>Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
>It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
>reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
>overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>
>To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
>it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
>Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
>breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
>long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
>my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
>a manual transmission.
>
>Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
>think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
>before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
>culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>
>Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
>white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
>might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
>no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
>as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
>Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
>the case with the Koreans.

What an interesting troll. From talking about Hyundais to admitting
they are racist in only 14 paragraphs.

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

How dare you accuse me of being a racist. Also, "takes one to know
one" remember? I never said I hated caucasians. I only said I'd
rather spend more time with other people who will treat me right. If
you were in my shoes I'm sure you yourself would get tired of a
caucasoid starring at you with an odd look because you look different
from their own kind. Obviously you have no idea what it feels like to
be a minority.



<<<<What an interesting troll. From talking about Hyundais to admitting
they are racist in only 14 paragraphs. >>>>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

How dare you accuse me of being a racist. Also, "takes one to know
one" remember? I never said I hated caucasians. I only said I'd
rather spend more time with other people who will treat me right. If
you were in my shoes I'm sure you yourself would get tired of a
caucasoid starring at you with an odd look because you look different
from their own kind. Obviously you have no idea what it feels like to
be a minority.


<<<<What an interesting troll. From talking about Hyundais to admitting
they are racist in only 14 paragraphs.>>>>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

You realize the new Sonata is about as Korean as Apple Pie?

Its built (at least the US delivery units) in Georgia, alongside peanuts
and inbred Baptists...

JS

eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
> I looked at the new 2006 Sonata and compared it to the 2005. One thing
> I didn't like about Hyundai is that on the sticker it always shows that
> the car is more polluting than the average new vehicle. This isn't the
> case with the new Sonata.
>
> The new Sonata had an L4 engine with 16 valves. It used a serpentine
> belt while the Elantra still used several smaller belts.
>
> Inside the new Sonata was an interior up there with the larger family
> car the Taurus or Sable. Only the new Sonata falls a little short on
> rear seat leg room. The Sonata had exterior door handles like those on
> newer VW's and Nissans.
>
> I loved the sleek look of the newer Sonatas. Gone is the Goofy Hyundai
> look with weird shaped tail lights and head lights. It's a car I
> wouldn't mind driving at all, so long as it came equipped with a 5
> speed manual transaxle.
>
> Overall the new Sonata is very impressive. Good MPG equipped with an
> auto, nice interior, clock and radio mounted high up for ease of use.
>
> I have always been a bit iffy about buying and or driving cars from
> Japan for two reasons: 1 It's a trend thing and I hate trends, and 2
> Hondas and Toyotas are ridiculously overrated. Sure their great cars
> but not nearly as great as everyone seems to make them out to be. Not
> even close.
>
> But if Hyundai can keep this up than it will be a car company that not
> only offers great cars but will also start charging higher prices since
> the public's interest peaks.
>
> I didn't mind the look of the new Tucson either, my beef on it is that
> it's
> AWD set up runs with 60/40 -- more power up front than on back. What a
> lousy set up, even if it does have a locking differential when the
> going gets tough.
>
> In the End, it looks like Korea is getting up there with automobile
> manufacturing. It's cars are not perfect (and no car is) Looking under
> the hoods I saw the welds on the cars. Great cars never have messy
> welds. It's obvious the welding techniques are still done the old
> fashion way. VW on the other hand uses lasers to weld the unit body
> together.
>
> Sure a Hyundai might be a good car for the money. But in the end it's
> really up to the individual to decide what's right for them. I for
> example always shunned the brand because I never liked the exterior
> look. Odd shapes and angles and such, never looks right to me. But
> the New Sonata isn't bad looking, I'm just wondering how it might hold
> up being a new platform and all.
>
> About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
> Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
> Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
> It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
> reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
> overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>
> To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
> it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
> Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
> breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
> long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
> my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
> a manual transmission.
>
> Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
> think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
> before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
> culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>
> Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
> white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
> might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
> no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
> as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
> Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
> the case with the Koreans.
>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

i do, but im not alone either..
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118158647.926254.312720@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> How dare you accuse me of being a racist. Also, "takes one to know
> one" remember? I never said I hated caucasians. I only said I'd
> rather spend more time with other people who will treat me right. If
> you were in my shoes I'm sure you yourself would get tired of a
> caucasoid starring at you with an odd look because you look different
> from their own kind. Obviously you have no idea what it feels like to
> be a minority.
>
>
>
> <<<<What an interesting troll. From talking about Hyundais to admitting
> they are racist in only 14 paragraphs. >>>>
>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

>> eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I looked at the new 2006 Sonata and compared it to the 2005. One thing
>> I didn't like about Hyundai is that on the sticker it always shows that
>> the car is more polluting than the average new vehicle. This isn't the
>> case with the new Sonata.
>>
>> The new Sonata had an L4 engine with 16 valves. It used a serpentine
>> belt while the Elantra still used several smaller belts.
>>
>> Inside the new Sonata was an interior up there with the larger family
>> car the Taurus or Sable. Only the new Sonata falls a little short on
>> rear seat leg room. The Sonata had exterior door handles like those on
>> newer VW's and Nissans.
>>
>> I loved the sleek look of the newer Sonatas. Gone is the Goofy Hyundai
>> look with weird shaped tail lights and head lights. It's a car I
>> wouldn't mind driving at all, so long as it came equipped with a 5
>> speed manual transaxle.
>>
>> Overall the new Sonata is very impressive. Good MPG equipped with an
>> auto, nice interior, clock and radio mounted high up for ease of use.
>>
>> I have always been a bit iffy about buying and or driving cars from
>> Japan for two reasons: 1 It's a trend thing and I hate trends, and 2
>> Hondas and Toyotas are ridiculously overrated. Sure their great cars
>> but not nearly as great as everyone seems to make them out to be. Not
>> even close.
>>
>> But if Hyundai can keep this up than it will be a car company that not
>> only offers great cars but will also start charging higher prices since
>> the public's interest peaks.
>>
>> I didn't mind the look of the new Tucson either, my beef on it is that
>> it's
>> AWD set up runs with 60/40 -- more power up front than on back. What a
>> lousy set up, even if it does have a locking differential when the
>> going gets tough.
>>
>> In the End, it looks like Korea is getting up there with automobile
>> manufacturing. It's cars are not perfect (and no car is) Looking under
>> the hoods I saw the welds on the cars. Great cars never have messy
>> welds. It's obvious the welding techniques are still done the old
>> fashion way. VW on the other hand uses lasers to weld the unit body
>> together.
>>
>> Sure a Hyundai might be a good car for the money. But in the end it's
>> really up to the individual to decide what's right for them. I for
>> example always shunned the brand because I never liked the exterior
>> look. Odd shapes and angles and such, never looks right to me. But
>> the New Sonata isn't bad looking, I'm just wondering how it might hold
>> up being a new platform and all.
>>
>> About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
>> Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
>> Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
>> It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
>> reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
>> overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>>
>> To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
>> it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
>> Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
>> breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
>> long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
>> my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
>> a manual transmission.
>>
>> Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
>> think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
>> before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
>> culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>>
>> Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
>> white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
>> might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
>> no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
>> as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
>> Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
>> the case with the Koreans.
>>
>"Jacob Suter" <jsuter@intrastardotnet.com> wrote in message
>news:1118166090.74045@uranus.intrastar.net...
> You realize the new Sonata is about as Korean as Apple Pie?
>
> Its built (at least the US delivery units) in Georgia, alongside peanuts
> and inbred Baptists...
>
> JS
>
Alabama, actually.
http://www.hmmausa.com/

--
Andrew D. Sisson

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

>>On 6 Jun 2005 18:01:16 -0700, eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
>>Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
>>Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
>>It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
>>reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
>>overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>>
>>To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
>>it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
>>Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
>>breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
>>long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
>>my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
>>a manual transmission.
>>
>>Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
>>think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
>>before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
>>culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>>
>>Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
>>white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
>>might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
>>no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
>>as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
>>Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
>>the case with the Koreans.
>
>"Raoul" <curious01720@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:senaa15jdtij5akkqfv656o7i6om82bi4s@4ax.com.. .
> What an interesting troll. From talking about Hyundais to admitting
> they are racist in only 14 paragraphs.
>
Troll? Maybe. Racist? No. OP said that he'd rather be around
non-Caucasoid. (Non-whites) As the Caucasian population is
giving him "looks" for his looks. I take it that OP is of Asian decent as
OP is a Pacific Islander.
--
Andrew D. Sisson

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

That's even worse...



<<<<Alabama, actually.
http://www.hmmausa.com/

--
Andrew D. Sisson >>>>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

I share your pain ma'am...


<<<<i do, but im not alone either.. >>>>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

the v6 is, 4cyls come from korea
"Jacob Suter" <jsuter@intrastardotnet.com> wrote in message
news:1118166090.74045@uranus.intrastar.net...
> You realize the new Sonata is about as Korean as Apple Pie?
>
> Its built (at least the US delivery units) in Georgia, alongside peanuts
> and inbred Baptists...
>
> JS
>
> eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I looked at the new 2006 Sonata and compared it to the 2005. One thing
>> I didn't like about Hyundai is that on the sticker it always shows that
>> the car is more polluting than the average new vehicle. This isn't the
>> case with the new Sonata.
>>
>> The new Sonata had an L4 engine with 16 valves. It used a serpentine
>> belt while the Elantra still used several smaller belts.
>>
>> Inside the new Sonata was an interior up there with the larger family
>> car the Taurus or Sable. Only the new Sonata falls a little short on
>> rear seat leg room. The Sonata had exterior door handles like those on
>> newer VW's and Nissans.
>>
>> I loved the sleek look of the newer Sonatas. Gone is the Goofy Hyundai
>> look with weird shaped tail lights and head lights. It's a car I
>> wouldn't mind driving at all, so long as it came equipped with a 5
>> speed manual transaxle.
>>
>> Overall the new Sonata is very impressive. Good MPG equipped with an
>> auto, nice interior, clock and radio mounted high up for ease of use.
>>
>> I have always been a bit iffy about buying and or driving cars from
>> Japan for two reasons: 1 It's a trend thing and I hate trends, and 2
>> Hondas and Toyotas are ridiculously overrated. Sure their great cars
>> but not nearly as great as everyone seems to make them out to be. Not
>> even close.
>>
>> But if Hyundai can keep this up than it will be a car company that not
>> only offers great cars but will also start charging higher prices since
>> the public's interest peaks.
>>
>> I didn't mind the look of the new Tucson either, my beef on it is that
>> it's
>> AWD set up runs with 60/40 -- more power up front than on back. What a
>> lousy set up, even if it does have a locking differential when the
>> going gets tough.
>>
>> In the End, it looks like Korea is getting up there with automobile
>> manufacturing. It's cars are not perfect (and no car is) Looking under
>> the hoods I saw the welds on the cars. Great cars never have messy
>> welds. It's obvious the welding techniques are still done the old
>> fashion way. VW on the other hand uses lasers to weld the unit body
>> together.
>>
>> Sure a Hyundai might be a good car for the money. But in the end it's
>> really up to the individual to decide what's right for them. I for
>> example always shunned the brand because I never liked the exterior
>> look. Odd shapes and angles and such, never looks right to me. But
>> the New Sonata isn't bad looking, I'm just wondering how it might hold
>> up being a new platform and all.
>>
>> About 2 weeks ago when I was at a grocery store the cashier was a
>> Korean woman. I asked her, "what do you think about Hyundai, Kia, and
>> Daewoo"? She said, "I think they're cheap and they fall apart easily.
>> It's such a shame because I'm Korean and I'd rather not have those cars
>> reflect on who Koreans are". And so it's obvious that this is the
>> overall mentality towards Korean brands.
>>
>> To be honest with you the Brand is still very much unknown to me. When
>> it comes down to it, I'd still purchase a Malibu Maxx over a Hyundai
>> Sonata because I'd be worried about the struts and engine mounts
>> breaking on the Hyundai while I'm driving from Texas to Alaska. I make
>> long road trips like that all the time. I'm a driving enthusiast and
>> my car has over 400,000 miles on it. It's a '95 Ford Explorer with
>> a manual transmission.
>>
>> Some day I'll probably own a Korean car. Probably because I happen to
>> think Koreans in general are cool as f***. I've trained in Tae Kwan Do
>> before and I've been around enough Koreans to experience the fun loving
>> culture. Kim Chi anyone?
>>
>> Also to be honest with you, I'm getting more and more disgusted with
>> white people as the years go by. I've been thinking about it and it
>> might be that I'm just getting disgusted with people in general. Still
>> no other person of some other nationality has wronged me near as much
>> as a Caucasoid has. I'm pacific islander and it's obvious
>> Caucasians treat me differently than they treat their own kind. Not
>> the case with the Koreans.
>>
>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

Just the engine, or the whole automobile?


<<<<the v6 is, 4cyls come from korea >>>>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

The whole vehicle is coming out of Alabama

--
Andrew D. Sisson
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1118249404.160824.210180@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Just the engine, or the whole automobile?
>
>
> <<<<the v6 is, 4cyls come from korea >>>>
>

Re: Hyundai has come a long way
 

In the 1998-1990's they had an assembly plant in Bromont Quebec. It didn't
last too long and it seemed the ones from there were not as good as the ones
from Korea (had 1 from each place) even though they were the same parts.
Hopefully the Alabama Assembly plant might fare better - Hyundai has been
learning. Remember what the Datsuns used to be like long before they became
Nissans?

I only had wished they had gotten onto the minivan ride when I was in the
market, I would have bought, well the kids can't stay home forever so one
day the van goes.


"Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote in message
news:_MLpe.3237$g5.1785@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> The whole vehicle is coming out of Alabama
>
> --
> Andrew D. Sisson
> <eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1118249404.160824.210180@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> Just the engine, or the whole automobile?
>>
>>
>> <<<<the v6 is, 4cyls come from korea >>>>
>>
>
>