Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

My 06 Sonata v-6 LX. I had windows tinted next day after I bought it
because I drive through southern Deserts couple of times a year. Cal, Nmex
Ariz Tex. never had any trouble with AC. last trip temp was over 100
every day until I got close to San Diego. Average about 17MPH city and
26MPG highway

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

My 06 Sonata v-6 LX. I had windows tinted next day after I bought it
because I drive through southern Deserts couple of times a year. Cal, Nmex
Ariz Tex. never had any trouble with AC. last trip temp was over 100
every day until I got close to San Diego. Average about 17MPH city and
26MPG highway

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>I plan on purchasing a new Sonata (my first Hyundai) and am having trouble
>deciding on the four or six cylinder engine.
>
>Another forum had posts from six cylinder owners who reported dismal
>mileage. One said he averaged 19 mpg!
>
>Is lousy mileage is typical for the six? How does it compare with the four?
>
>Thanks for your help.

I would just go with the 4-cyl or wait for 2007 models.. Considering
my 2002 Sonata 6-cyl averages 22-24 MPG and is 170HP, the 2006 4-cyl
is 160HP and gets better mileage than me for 10HP less.

If I had to choose between the 6-cyl and 4-cyl TODAY, I would go with
the 4-cyl. It gets 24/33MPG.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>I plan on purchasing a new Sonata (my first Hyundai) and am having trouble
>deciding on the four or six cylinder engine.
>
>Another forum had posts from six cylinder owners who reported dismal
>mileage. One said he averaged 19 mpg!
>
>Is lousy mileage is typical for the six? How does it compare with the four?
>
>Thanks for your help.

I would just go with the 4-cyl or wait for 2007 models.. Considering
my 2002 Sonata 6-cyl averages 22-24 MPG and is 170HP, the 2006 4-cyl
is 160HP and gets better mileage than me for 10HP less.

If I had to choose between the 6-cyl and 4-cyl TODAY, I would go with
the 4-cyl. It gets 24/33MPG.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.

Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
you do out of the same car.

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.

Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
you do out of the same car.

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
>slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.
>
>Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
>situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
>you do out of the same car.

What made an even bigger difference on my highway MPG were better
tires than the OEM. I'm riding on Yokohama Avid H4S and they are a
HUGE improvement. I once got 525 miles out of a full tank (16.5 Gal)
before I almost ran dry. Never got anywhere near that on my old tires.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
>slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.
>
>Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
>situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
>you do out of the same car.

What made an even bigger difference on my highway MPG were better
tires than the OEM. I'm riding on Yokohama Avid H4S and they are a
HUGE improvement. I once got 525 miles out of a full tank (16.5 Gal)
before I almost ran dry. Never got anywhere near that on my old tires.

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:

>>If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
>>slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.
>>
>>Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
>>situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
>>you do out of the same car.
>
>
> What made an even bigger difference on my highway MPG were better
> tires than the OEM. I'm riding on Yokohama Avid H4S and they are a
> HUGE improvement. I once got 525 miles out of a full tank (16.5 Gal)
> before I almost ran dry. Never got anywhere near that on my old tires.

Very unlikely that the tires made a HUGE difference or even a
significant difference. Most likely you are comparing an apple trip to
orange trips and attributing the difference to the tires when other
variables are more likely at play.


Matt

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:

>>If you're getting 22-24 out of your '02 V6, you should expect similar or
>>slightly better numbers out of a new 3.3 V6.
>>
>>Individual fuel economy has a great amount to do with driving habits and
>>situations. I doubt most people get fuel economy a couple mpg lower than
>>you do out of the same car.
>
>
> What made an even bigger difference on my highway MPG were better
> tires than the OEM. I'm riding on Yokohama Avid H4S and they are a
> HUGE improvement. I once got 525 miles out of a full tank (16.5 Gal)
> before I almost ran dry. Never got anywhere near that on my old tires.

Very unlikely that the tires made a HUGE difference or even a
significant difference. Most likely you are comparing an apple trip to
orange trips and attributing the difference to the tires when other
variables are more likely at play.


Matt

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>Very unlikely that the tires made a HUGE difference or even a
>significant difference. Most likely you are comparing an apple trip to
>orange trips and attributing the difference to the tires when other
>variables are more likely at play.

Perhaps, but I kept my controls the same each time. I go to SW
Wisconsin (200+ miles (one way) from my location, Chicago) at least 4
times a year and most of the roads out there are 55mph so there isn't
much room for stop and go acceleration affecting my numbers. No
jack-rabbit starts or overdrive to pass people either.

I did my tests with cruise control @ 65-70mph and have found that the
Yokohamas yield me *slightly* better mileage than my OEMs. With the
OEMs I was getting right around 500-505 miles to a full tank. No apple
or orange trips here since the conditions of the drive were exactly
the same. Generally, I drive at night when there's less traffic or
after the morning rush hour. The conditions are nearly the same every
time so my numbers are consistent.

With my OEMs, I would average 78-82mpg to a 1/4 tank (city). With my
Yokos I am getting around 84-86. I've been driving the same route to
work for 2 years and nothing has changed between point A and point B.

I've put around 14k on my Yokohama's from mid June '05 to present and
have been keeping a fairly close eye on the before and after. *My*
experience is that I am getting a little better mileage out of them.

cheers,

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

>Very unlikely that the tires made a HUGE difference or even a
>significant difference. Most likely you are comparing an apple trip to
>orange trips and attributing the difference to the tires when other
>variables are more likely at play.

Perhaps, but I kept my controls the same each time. I go to SW
Wisconsin (200+ miles (one way) from my location, Chicago) at least 4
times a year and most of the roads out there are 55mph so there isn't
much room for stop and go acceleration affecting my numbers. No
jack-rabbit starts or overdrive to pass people either.

I did my tests with cruise control @ 65-70mph and have found that the
Yokohamas yield me *slightly* better mileage than my OEMs. With the
OEMs I was getting right around 500-505 miles to a full tank. No apple
or orange trips here since the conditions of the drive were exactly
the same. Generally, I drive at night when there's less traffic or
after the morning rush hour. The conditions are nearly the same every
time so my numbers are consistent.

With my OEMs, I would average 78-82mpg to a 1/4 tank (city). With my
Yokos I am getting around 84-86. I've been driving the same route to
work for 2 years and nothing has changed between point A and point B.

I've put around 14k on my Yokohama's from mid June '05 to present and
have been keeping a fairly close eye on the before and after. *My*
experience is that I am getting a little better mileage out of them.

cheers,

- Thee Chicago Wolf

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

Hi Matt,

I live in Georgia where it has also been very hot for several weeks. I have
the 4 cyl like you and mine cools very well. You should really take it in
and have them redo the AC. Usually, they have to dump the charge and start
from scratch with a new charge to ensure the correct amount goes in.

As far as mileage, mine is holding on an indicated 25.5 with about 80% city
or town driving. On trips back to Pa, my hometown, we get 32. The 4 puts
out plenty of power to stay out of trouble and pass on the two lane roads
around here. I honestly don't see any reason to get the V6. This comes
from a guy who has had 427 1969 vettes, 390 Cougars, Porsche's, and plenty
of other 'muscle'. It's just not necessary anymore with $3 gas. It's no
fun to drive anymore with all the nuts on the roads and cops hungry to fill
the coffers.


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:LQ9Cg.387$Db4.32764@news1.epix.net...
> Vineeth wrote:
>> I can very well see where you are coming from Keith *I* was also
>> supposed to get a Sonata.. Another of the pittfall's of marriage eh?
>> Anyways back to the OP's question. Don't buy the car if you are looking
>> for milleage like the EPA figures. I have been using a V6 GLS for the
>> past 2 months and have got an avg of 22.6 once on a trip which involved
>> 60% highway. Otherwise with regular city use (i.e. 95% city/suburb) I
>> get around 18 to 20. A buddy of mine liked my car so much that he also
>> picked one up, & he is getting similar figures. One thing I would like
>> to say is the AC is always on full. What with the heat over the past
>> few weeks I have been wondering if I have to add a second AC if it
>> where possible.
>>
>> Which reminds me.. I have read in this same group that the Sonata AC
>> blows ice! Well I am not so sure about that! I used to get much cooler
>> air from a 93 Camry we traded in. But on the other hand the car is a
>> joy to drive around... I personaly feel there is a percievable
>> diffrence in power of the V6 & the 4 cylinder.
>
> I'm one of the few who have also commented on the AC. I live in PA where
> we only need AC about 3 months of the year, but I still find it feeble.
> It cools OK if the OAT is less than about 85, but when it hit 100 last
> week, it was pathetic. I drove my Chevy truck to work the two days when
> it was at or near 100. That thing will cool the cabin within 10 minutes
> even on the lowest fan speed. I have to start raising the temperature
> control even with 100 outside after about 10-15 minutes (about halfway to
> work for me). My Sonata can remain on full cold with the fan on 3 all the
> way to work when it is above 90 and I'm still not too cool.
>
> I plan to take it in and have it checked when I get a chance, however, I
> checked it myself with a thermometer and it seemed to meet the specs for
> exit temperature at the vents. I think it just doesn't have enough
> capacity (air temperature at the outlets doesn't equate to heat removal as
> temperature and heat aren't the same) to handle the size of the cabin. I
> also have the low-end model which lacks the special window treatment
> available on the higher end models and this may be the reason that those
> with the V-6s haven't complained about the AC.
>
>
> Matt

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

Hi Matt,

I live in Georgia where it has also been very hot for several weeks. I have
the 4 cyl like you and mine cools very well. You should really take it in
and have them redo the AC. Usually, they have to dump the charge and start
from scratch with a new charge to ensure the correct amount goes in.

As far as mileage, mine is holding on an indicated 25.5 with about 80% city
or town driving. On trips back to Pa, my hometown, we get 32. The 4 puts
out plenty of power to stay out of trouble and pass on the two lane roads
around here. I honestly don't see any reason to get the V6. This comes
from a guy who has had 427 1969 vettes, 390 Cougars, Porsche's, and plenty
of other 'muscle'. It's just not necessary anymore with $3 gas. It's no
fun to drive anymore with all the nuts on the roads and cops hungry to fill
the coffers.


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:LQ9Cg.387$Db4.32764@news1.epix.net...
> Vineeth wrote:
>> I can very well see where you are coming from Keith *I* was also
>> supposed to get a Sonata.. Another of the pittfall's of marriage eh?
>> Anyways back to the OP's question. Don't buy the car if you are looking
>> for milleage like the EPA figures. I have been using a V6 GLS for the
>> past 2 months and have got an avg of 22.6 once on a trip which involved
>> 60% highway. Otherwise with regular city use (i.e. 95% city/suburb) I
>> get around 18 to 20. A buddy of mine liked my car so much that he also
>> picked one up, & he is getting similar figures. One thing I would like
>> to say is the AC is always on full. What with the heat over the past
>> few weeks I have been wondering if I have to add a second AC if it
>> where possible.
>>
>> Which reminds me.. I have read in this same group that the Sonata AC
>> blows ice! Well I am not so sure about that! I used to get much cooler
>> air from a 93 Camry we traded in. But on the other hand the car is a
>> joy to drive around... I personaly feel there is a percievable
>> diffrence in power of the V6 & the 4 cylinder.
>
> I'm one of the few who have also commented on the AC. I live in PA where
> we only need AC about 3 months of the year, but I still find it feeble.
> It cools OK if the OAT is less than about 85, but when it hit 100 last
> week, it was pathetic. I drove my Chevy truck to work the two days when
> it was at or near 100. That thing will cool the cabin within 10 minutes
> even on the lowest fan speed. I have to start raising the temperature
> control even with 100 outside after about 10-15 minutes (about halfway to
> work for me). My Sonata can remain on full cold with the fan on 3 all the
> way to work when it is above 90 and I'm still not too cool.
>
> I plan to take it in and have it checked when I get a chance, however, I
> checked it myself with a thermometer and it seemed to meet the specs for
> exit temperature at the vents. I think it just doesn't have enough
> capacity (air temperature at the outlets doesn't equate to heat removal as
> temperature and heat aren't the same) to handle the size of the cabin. I
> also have the low-end model which lacks the special window treatment
> available on the higher end models and this may be the reason that those
> with the V-6s haven't complained about the AC.
>
>
> Matt

Re: Hyundai Mileage
 

Thee Chicago Wolf wrote:
>>Very unlikely that the tires made a HUGE difference or even a
>>significant difference. Most likely you are comparing an apple trip to
>>orange trips and attributing the difference to the tires when other
>>variables are more likely at play.
>
>
> Perhaps, but I kept my controls the same each time. I go to SW
> Wisconsin (200+ miles (one way) from my location, Chicago) at least 4
> times a year and most of the roads out there are 55mph so there isn't
> much room for stop and go acceleration affecting my numbers. No
> jack-rabbit starts or overdrive to pass people either.
>
> I did my tests with cruise control @ 65-70mph and have found that the
> Yokohamas yield me *slightly* better mileage than my OEMs. With the
> OEMs I was getting right around 500-505 miles to a full tank. No apple
> or orange trips here since the conditions of the drive were exactly
> the same. Generally, I drive at night when there's less traffic or
> after the morning rush hour. The conditions are nearly the same every
> time so my numbers are consistent.
>
> With my OEMs, I would average 78-82mpg to a 1/4 tank (city). With my
> Yokos I am getting around 84-86. I've been driving the same route to
> work for 2 years and nothing has changed between point A and point B.
>
> I've put around 14k on my Yokohama's from mid June '05 to present and
> have been keeping a fairly close eye on the before and after. *My*
> experience is that I am getting a little better mileage out of them.

A slight difference is a lot less than a HUGE difference. :-)

Are you sure they are the exact same diameter as the OEM tires. A
change in diameter can also have an effect on computed mileage.

Matt