Hyundaitech?
 

We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
pay the dealer more than he should be paid.

Thanks

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:10:27 -0400, Russell Patterson <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

>We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>
>Thanks
Oh, its a 2002 XG350L

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

Russell Patterson wrote:
> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>
> Thanks
>
Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
authorizing the work.

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35:34 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:

>Russell Patterson wrote:
>> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
>the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
>authorizing the work.

Yeah exactly. It's a little too late now that the work is done. What
are you going to do not pay it? Then you won't get your car back.

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

<nick@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ot7n94h7vcr4c5d7uo679oecttnplv7cfg@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35:34 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Russell Patterson wrote:
>>> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>>> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>>> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>>> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>>> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
>>the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
>>authorizing the work.
>
> Yeah exactly. It's a little too late now that the work is done. What
> are you going to do not pay it? Then you won't get your car back.
>
I was billed full book price for changing spark plugs (no minor thing in an
XG350) and full book price for replacing a bad fuel injector. I went in and
talked to them, it turned out that it was a billing mistake. They corrected
the problem and I got a good chunk of money back. There are still a few
honest shops out there.

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35:34 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:

>Russell Patterson wrote:
>> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
>the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
>authorizing the work.
That would be true if I indeed had not asked about it previously,
which I had done. But then my wife ended up taking the car in to get
the work done. Sometimes women do still get taken advantage of in car
repair situations, so before I went to pick it up I wanted to know.
Thank you everybody for giving me a straight answer. Not! Goodbye!

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

Russell Patterson wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35:34 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Russell Patterson wrote:
>>> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>>> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>>> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>>> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>>> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>> Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
>> the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
>> authorizing the work.
> That would be true if I indeed had not asked about it previously,
> which I had done. But then my wife ended up taking the car in to get
> the work done. Sometimes women do still get taken advantage of in car
> repair situations, so before I went to pick it up I wanted to know.
> Thank you everybody for giving me a straight answer. Not! Goodbye!
So your inarticulate immaturity in a business transaction extends to
social settings as well? In most states a "mechanic's lean" would be
permitted and you would be paying in order to get the car released or
ending up n court. i fear you will likely need to learn the hard way.

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:23:46 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:

>Russell Patterson wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:35:34 -0700, James <kairoff@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Russell Patterson wrote:
>>>> We finally got our alternator replaced at the dealer and he also
>>>> replaced the timing chain. My question is, what is the total labor
>>>> hours (in the book) for both individually and what is the savings in
>>>> labor hours to do both? I am on a tight budget and cannot afford to
>>>> pay the dealer more than he should be paid.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>> Sounds like it's after the fact and the work is already done. You owe
>>> the workman what he charges. You are responsible to get a bid before
>>> authorizing the work.
>> That would be true if I indeed had not asked about it previously,
>> which I had done. But then my wife ended up taking the car in to get
>> the work done. Sometimes women do still get taken advantage of in car
>> repair situations, so before I went to pick it up I wanted to know.
>> Thank you everybody for giving me a straight answer. Not! Goodbye!
>So your inarticulate immaturity in a business transaction extends to
>social settings as well? In most states a "mechanic's lean" would be
>permitted and you would be paying in order to get the car released or
>ending up n court. i fear you will likely need to learn the hard way.
You ASSume I wouldn't pay either way. It is one thing to be cheated
and not know it. It is entirely different to be cheated and know it.
At least you can tailor your future business decisions based on your
knowledge of the other guy you are doing buisiness with. For
inastance, I do know I would never do business with you!

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James the idjuit wrote:

> So your inarticulate immaturity in a business transaction extends to
> social settings as well? In most states a "mechanic's lean" would be
> permitted and you would be paying in order to get the car released or
> ending up n court. i fear you will likely need to learn the hard way.

You're obviously STILL learning the same way when it comes to spelling.
You can't even spell "lien" correctly and you're blasting the other
guy? Oh wait, perhaps you meant the mechanic would "lean" on the car
so the owner couldn't move it. I get it now. You articulated that very
well, I just missed it. Dumb ass...

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

Big Blabber Mouth wrote:
> James the idjuit wrote:
>
>> So your inarticulate immaturity in a business transaction extends to
>> social settings as well? In most states a "mechanic's lean" would be
>> permitted and you would be paying in order to get the car released or
>> ending up n court. i fear you will likely need to learn the hard way.
>
> You're obviously STILL learning the same way when it comes to spelling.
> You can't even spell "lien" correctly and you're blasting the other
> guy? Oh wait, perhaps you meant the mechanic would "lean" on the car
> so the owner couldn't move it. I get it now. You articulated that very
> well, I just missed it. Dumb ass...
Silly little person.

Re: Hyundaitech?
 

Sorry I missed this in my absence, Russell. At the moment, I don't have
access to a labor guide, but that's pretty much immaterial, since each
shop sets their own times and rates anyway.

Our standard time for the timing belt on this engine is 6.0 hours.
Removing the alternator additionally requires at least discharging the a/c
and disconnecting the battery and alternator cables. I'd say another 1.5
hours or so in addition would be fair. Normally, we'd charge about 3.0
hours for just the alternator.

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