Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

So I thought it might be neat to get a Scangauge to watch my mpg since
I don't have that readout in my plain jane 2006 Elantra. I go to the
website, it says virtually all cars since 1996, I get excited, read
about the unit some more, get ready to order, and a birdie comes and
sits on my shoulder and tells me to just check the incompatibility
chart to make sure it fits the OBDII connector. Never assume though.
But no big deal.

A short list of incompatible diesels, the Lotus Elite, and......one
car won't fit the connector.

-One- stinking car, out of, I guess, every car made in the world since
1996.

The 2006 Elantra.

It's quite hard to fathom. I'm still dazed. Hyundaitech, why on
earth do you think Hyundai did this? Does this mean I'm at the mercy
of only the dealer for diagnostics?

Or, (looks heavenward), is there an adapter that everyone else uses to
run diagnostics on this rare bird? (and might be used to run the
Scangauge?)

Will await answer with just a bare bit of hope.

Thanks!

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

It's certainly *not* an issue with the shape of the connector. The
connector shape is the same as all other OBD-II compliant vehicles. It is
possible, however, that the communication protocol in your car is not
recognized by the Scangauge, or that the necessary data isn't transmitted
in the data stream (although I'd think that injector pulsewidth and fuel
level would be the primary inputs).

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

According to the scangauge site
http://www.scangauge.com/support/Com...Vehicles.shtml
there is no mention of the Elantra (or any other Hyundai) being incompatible

"2006
WORKS ON ALL EXCEPT: Lotus Elise
Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine does not report fuel use or trip
functions and some of the gauges.

Partial Compatibility
Some vehicles do not provide all of the possible information.
The following list applies to the vehicle that fall within this category:
About 10% of vehicles provide Fuel Pressure (FPR).
About 50% of vehicles provide Manifold-Absolute-Pressure (MAP).
Multiple displacement engines will report incorrect fuel economy and
fuel use when some of the cylinders are disabled."

I wonder what site you are referring to. It comes with a 30 day
unconditional money back guarantee if it doesn't work anyways.


unkadunk wrote:
> So I thought it might be neat to get a Scangauge to watch my mpg since
> I don't have that readout in my plain jane 2006 Elantra. I go to the
> website, it says virtually all cars since 1996, I get excited, read
> about the unit some more, get ready to order, and a birdie comes and
> sits on my shoulder and tells me to just check the incompatibility
> chart to make sure it fits the OBDII connector. Never assume though.
> But no big deal.
>
> A short list of incompatible diesels, the Lotus Elite, and......one
> car won't fit the connector.
>
> -One- stinking car, out of, I guess, every car made in the world since
> 1996.
>
> The 2006 Elantra.
>
> It's quite hard to fathom. I'm still dazed. Hyundaitech, why on
> earth do you think Hyundai did this? Does this mean I'm at the mercy
> of only the dealer for diagnostics?
>
> Or, (looks heavenward), is there an adapter that everyone else uses to
> run diagnostics on this rare bird? (and might be used to run the
> Scangauge?)
>
> Will await answer with just a bare bit of hope.
>
> Thanks!
>

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

On Aug 16, 6:05 pm, jp103 <jpoinier11052...@nospamcomcast.net> wrote:
> According to the scangauge sitehttp://www.scangauge.com/support/CompatibleVehicles.shtml
> there is no mention of the Elantra (or any other Hyundai) being incompatible
>
> "2006
> WORKS ON ALL EXCEPT: Lotus Elise
> Jeep Liberty with the diesel engine does not report fuel use or trip
> functions and some of the gauges.
>
> Partial Compatibility
> Some vehicles do not provide all of the possible information.
> The following list applies to the vehicle that fall within this category:
> About 10% of vehicles provide Fuel Pressure (FPR).
> About 50% of vehicles provide Manifold-Absolute-Pressure (MAP).
> Multiple displacement engines will report incorrect fuel economy and
> fuel use when some of the cylinders are disabled."
>
> I wonder what site you are referring to. It comes with a 30 day
> unconditional money back guarantee if it doesn't work anyways.
>
> unkadunk wrote:
> > So I thought it might be neat to get a Scangauge to watch my mpg since
> > I don't have that readout in my plain jane 2006 Elantra. I go to the
> > website, it says virtually all cars since 1996, I get excited, read
> > about the unit some more, get ready to order, and a birdie comes and
> > sits on my shoulder and tells me to just check the incompatibility
> > chart to make sure it fits the OBDII connector. Never assume though.
> > But no big deal.
>
> > A short list of incompatible diesels, the Lotus Elite, and......one
> > car won't fit the connector.
>
> > -One- stinking car, out of, I guess, every car made in the world since
> > 1996.
>
> > The 2006 Elantra.
>
> > It's quite hard to fathom. I'm still dazed. Hyundaitech, why on
> > earth do you think Hyundai did this? Does this mean I'm at the mercy
> > of only the dealer for diagnostics?
>
> > Or, (looks heavenward), is there an adapter that everyone else uses to
> > run diagnostics on this rare bird? (and might be used to run the
> > Scangauge?)
>
> > Will await answer with just a bare bit of hope.
>
> > Thanks!

This is too bizarre. I mean totally creepy. The compatibility page
is totally different than the one I looked at yesterday. Only keep a
one day favorite history, so maybe I was at another site, but I'm sure
I wasn't, as I was going to order directly from them. I swear it's
changed!!!

But haunted web pages aside, this is great news, I'm ordering this
morning.

Thanks!

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

Ahh, the internet works in mysterious ways....

If you get one let us know how it works as it seems like a good tool
that has the ability to move from vehicle to vehicle and provide a lot
of information..

unkadunk wrote:


> This is too bizarre. I mean totally creepy. The compatibility page
> is totally different than the one I looked at yesterday. Only keep a
> one day favorite history, so maybe I was at another site, but I'm sure
> I wasn't, as I was going to order directly from them. I swear it's
> changed!!!
>
> But haunted web pages aside, this is great news, I'm ordering this
> morning.
>
> Thanks!
>

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

On Aug 17, 7:24 am, jp103 <jpoinier11052...@nospamcomcast.net> wrote:
> Ahh, the internet works in mysterious ways....
>
> If you get one let us know how it works as it seems like a good tool
> that has the ability to move from vehicle to vehicle and provide a lot
> of information..
>
> unkadunk wrote:
> > This is too bizarre. I mean totally creepy. The compatibility page
> > is totally different than the one I looked at yesterday. Only keep a
> > one day favorite history, so maybe I was at another site, but I'm sure
> > I wasn't, as I was going to order directly from them. I swear it's
> > changed!!!
>
> > But haunted web pages aside, this is great news, I'm ordering this
> > morning.
>
> > Thanks!

Will do, order is in!

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

I can guarantee there's no fuel pressure information. Your car does have
MAP, so that data should be available.

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

I have a 2006 Elantra, and bought a Innova Equus 3130 ScanTool
CanOBD2, and it works absolutely perfectly with the Elantra. This
model works with all communications protocols, including CAN
(Controller Area Network). I bought it new through a eBay vendor at a
price of around $150 - well worth the cost.

Here's a link to the manufacturer's product page:
http://www.iequus.com/product_info.p...gory_id=1_10_7

Hyundaitech . . . the rash of recent DTC's that my Elantra was
giving was finally sorted out a few weeks ago. I suggested to the
dealer that they change out the PCSV (Purge Control Solenoid Valve)
the two previous times the Check Engine light came on, but they chose
not to take my advice, even though I once worked as a certified
technician on SAABs and Volvos. The most recent time, they chose to
finally replace the PCSV, and it fixed the problem.

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

Just got the Scangauge in today, and gave it a test spin in the 2006
Elantra. I really bought it mainly to watch the mileage. So far it works
perfectly. Fits like a glove in the space below the radio, just have to
figure out how to route the relatively thick wire. Hate to pull part of
the dash on a ten month old car and drill holes. Yet.

Most importantly, the backlight color was easily adjusted to match the
Elantra's green perfectly, looks stock. Unit is well made, display is
bigger than I thought. Really big 'fonts'. Plugged it in, turned on
engine, the Scangauge booted in about five seconds and was ready to go.
Put in data on car engine, fuel tank, etc. in a couple of minutes or so.
And that was that.

Went for a spin, set it to instant mpg, and watched as it read 0 mpg in
the garage, then 3, 4, 5 crawling out the driveway and into the street.
Then on to the store, where it merrily whizzed along from yucky low mpg
accelerating to 60+ mpg when lifting off trottle. Average mpg to the
store and back was 12. Hoho. Really makes you realize how miserable
mileage is when braking, accelerating on short trips with stop signs etc.

Average mpg is similar to the readout on better Hyundai models, but is on
another display from the instant mpg readout, so you loose the instant
readout to see the average. Kind of disappointing to me but not a big
deal. Nice selection of various mpg, fuel to empty, speed readings.

Most other readouts were fine but many redundant or boring, voltage, rpm,
manifold temperature, etc. Like watching your cpu temperature and fan
rpm's on your computer. Interesting for a second or two. But obviously
important if at some point you need to analyze them.

Unit is very well made, all plastic but nice and substantial. Cord is
six feet, enough for dash mounting but would be tight trying to loop it
to an overhead windshield mount spot.

Manual was okay, but needs someone to edit it, put in some chapters, and
move stuff around. Important first time fuel settings were twenty pages
into the book. Manual on website easier to read.

White plastic buttons are really good for finding in dark, but they make
the unit stand out when it's sitting in the dash. Kind of yells 'hey
look do you want to break a window and get me I'm an add-on' kind of
thing. Have to look into black magic marker or some kind of caps for
them.

All in all for a one day test it's a very nice toy to help entertain,
watch the mpg, and maybe come in handy one day if problems arise. I'm
keeping it.

Re: Hyundaitech - Scangauge - OBDII connector - arrgh
 

Thanks for the update. Looks like I have another item to add to my list
of useful toys.
John

unkadunk wrote:
> Just got the Scangauge in today, and gave it a test spin in the 2006
> Elantra. I really bought it mainly to watch the mileage. So far it works
> perfectly. Fits like a glove in the space below the radio, just have to
> figure out how to route the relatively thick wire. Hate to pull part of
> the dash on a ten month old car and drill holes. Yet.
>
> Most importantly, the backlight color was easily adjusted to match the
> Elantra's green perfectly, looks stock. Unit is well made, display is
> bigger than I thought. Really big 'fonts'. Plugged it in, turned on
> engine, the Scangauge booted in about five seconds and was ready to go.
> Put in data on car engine, fuel tank, etc. in a couple of minutes or so.
> And that was that.
>
> Went for a spin, set it to instant mpg, and watched as it read 0 mpg in
> the garage, then 3, 4, 5 crawling out the driveway and into the street.
> Then on to the store, where it merrily whizzed along from yucky low mpg
> accelerating to 60+ mpg when lifting off trottle. Average mpg to the
> store and back was 12. Hoho. Really makes you realize how miserable
> mileage is when braking, accelerating on short trips with stop signs etc.
>
> Average mpg is similar to the readout on better Hyundai models, but is on
> another display from the instant mpg readout, so you loose the instant
> readout to see the average. Kind of disappointing to me but not a big
> deal. Nice selection of various mpg, fuel to empty, speed readings.
>
> Most other readouts were fine but many redundant or boring, voltage, rpm,
> manifold temperature, etc. Like watching your cpu temperature and fan
> rpm's on your computer. Interesting for a second or two. But obviously
> important if at some point you need to analyze them.
>
> Unit is very well made, all plastic but nice and substantial. Cord is
> six feet, enough for dash mounting but would be tight trying to loop it
> to an overhead windshield mount spot.
>
> Manual was okay, but needs someone to edit it, put in some chapters, and
> move stuff around. Important first time fuel settings were twenty pages
> into the book. Manual on website easier to read.
>
> White plastic buttons are really good for finding in dark, but they make
> the unit stand out when it's sitting in the dash. Kind of yells 'hey
> look do you want to break a window and get me I'm an add-on' kind of
> thing. Have to look into black magic marker or some kind of caps for
> them.
>
> All in all for a one day test it's a very nice toy to help entertain,
> watch the mpg, and maybe come in handy one day if problems arise. I'm
> keeping it.

Scangauge - OBDII device
 

Greetings all;

Looking through old posts and trying to figure out why my OBD II reader no
longer works on my 08 Sonata and the wife's 05 Jeep. The reader's fine, but
no go on these 2 new vehicles. Did a language change that I missed?

I also got to thinking about the poster in the group that provided the link
for the little cool OBD II device to augment the existing gauges and mounted
cleanly on the dash. Does anyone remember or have the link?

--
Steve

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html

Re: Scangauge - OBDII device
 

The '08 Sonata is running CAN protocol. I've seen information that 2005
Jeeps may also be running CAN.


"Steve R." <fixmypc01@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:kI9lj.2482$Sa1.1020@news02.roc.ny...
> Greetings all;
>
> Looking through old posts and trying to figure out why my OBD II reader no
> longer works on my 08 Sonata and the wife's 05 Jeep. The reader's fine,
> but no go on these 2 new vehicles. Did a language change that I missed?
>
> I also got to thinking about the poster in the group that provided the
> link for the little cool OBD II device to augment the existing gauges and
> mounted cleanly on the dash. Does anyone remember or have the link?
>
> --
> Steve
>
> 2008 Sonata SE- His
> 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
>
> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>
>
>
>

Re: Scangauge - OBDII device
 

Well, that would explain everything. Since I no longer can use it, it's
going on Ebay...

Thanks!

Steve
--


Higher Powered Services
Ph: 928.565.4463
Complete PC Repair
fixmypc01@gmail.com

AZ home for sale near Laughlin, Las Vegas, BHC-
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"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ntblj.57407$vt2.32942@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
> The '08 Sonata is running CAN protocol. I've seen information that 2005
> Jeeps may also be running CAN.
>
>
> "Steve R." <fixmypc01@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:kI9lj.2482$Sa1.1020@news02.roc.ny...
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> Looking through old posts and trying to figure out why my OBD II reader
>> no longer works on my 08 Sonata and the wife's 05 Jeep. The reader's
>> fine, but no go on these 2 new vehicles. Did a language change that I
>> missed?
>>
>> I also got to thinking about the poster in the group that provided the
>> link for the little cool OBD II device to augment the existing gauges and
>> mounted cleanly on the dash. Does anyone remember or have the link?
>>
>> --
>> Steve
>>
>> 2008 Sonata SE- His
>> 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
>>
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Scangauge - OBDII device
 

the scan gauge can be had at wwwdotscangaugedotcom/buy/index.shtml


"Ann & Steve Richards" <saringv@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wNdlj.2494$Sa1.2019@news02.roc.ny...
> Well, that would explain everything. Since I no longer can use it, it's
> going on Ebay...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
> --
>
>
> Higher Powered Services
> Ph: 928.565.4463
> Complete PC Repair
> fixmypc01@gmail.com
>
> AZ home for sale near Laughlin, Las Vegas, BHC-
> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>
> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:ntblj.57407$vt2.32942@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
>> The '08 Sonata is running CAN protocol. I've seen information that 2005
>> Jeeps may also be running CAN.
>>
>>
>> "Steve R." <fixmypc01@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:kI9lj.2482$Sa1.1020@news02.roc.ny...
>>> Greetings all;
>>>
>>> Looking through old posts and trying to figure out why my OBD II reader
>>> no longer works on my 08 Sonata and the wife's 05 Jeep. The reader's
>>> fine, but no go on these 2 new vehicles. Did a language change that I
>>> missed?
>>>
>>> I also got to thinking about the poster in the group that provided the
>>> link for the little cool OBD II device to augment the existing gauges
>>> and mounted cleanly on the dash. Does anyone remember or have the link?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> 2008 Sonata SE- His
>>> 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
>>>
>>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Scangauge - OBDII device
 

Thanks!!

I did find a cooler one on Ebay, but of course, more pricey...DashDyno OBD
II 2 Scan Tool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DashD...spagenameZWDVW



--
Steve

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
1997 HR Endeavor LE 36'- Ours

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html



"631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:L1ylj.78250$L%6.19864@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
> the scan gauge can be had at wwwdotscangaugedotcom/buy/index.shtml
>
>
> "Ann & Steve Richards" <saringv@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wNdlj.2494$Sa1.2019@news02.roc.ny...
>> Well, that would explain everything. Since I no longer can use it, it's
>> going on Ebay...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Steve
>> --
>>
>>
>> Higher Powered Services
>> Ph: 928.565.4463
>> Complete PC Repair
>> fixmypc01@gmail.com
>>
>> AZ home for sale near Laughlin, Las Vegas, BHC-
>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:ntblj.57407$vt2.32942@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
>>> The '08 Sonata is running CAN protocol. I've seen information that 2005
>>> Jeeps may also be running CAN.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Steve R." <fixmypc01@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:kI9lj.2482$Sa1.1020@news02.roc.ny...
>>>> Greetings all;
>>>>
>>>> Looking through old posts and trying to figure out why my OBD II reader
>>>> no longer works on my 08 Sonata and the wife's 05 Jeep. The reader's
>>>> fine, but no go on these 2 new vehicles. Did a language change that I
>>>> missed?
>>>>
>>>> I also got to thinking about the poster in the group that provided the
>>>> link for the little cool OBD II device to augment the existing gauges
>>>> and mounted cleanly on the dash. Does anyone remember or have the link?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> 2008 Sonata SE- His
>>>> 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
>>>>
>>>> http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/rfs/530237885.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>