I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
thoughts on the '07.Thanks.

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Robert wrote:

> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.

There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and
is also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an
automatic, but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.

I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster
is inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the
top 1/4 or so of the windshield clear.

The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
occasional noise.

The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one,
are so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a
cup of coffee out of it.

The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
cars of similar size.

There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy,
has good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.


Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Robert wrote:

> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.

There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and
is also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an
automatic, but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.

I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster
is inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the
top 1/4 or so of the windshield clear.

The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
occasional noise.

The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one,
are so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a
cup of coffee out of it.

The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
cars of similar size.

There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy,
has good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.


Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Robert wrote:

> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.

There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and
is also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an
automatic, but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.

I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster
is inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the
top 1/4 or so of the windshield clear.

The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
occasional noise.

The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one,
are so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a
cup of coffee out of it.

The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
cars of similar size.

There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy,
has good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.


Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
> Robert wrote:
>
>> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>
> There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
> It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
> also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
> but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>
> I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
> inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
> just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
> or so of the windshield clear.
>
> The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
> occasional noise.
>
> The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
> bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
> and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
> will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
> The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
> the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
> of it.
>
> The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
> of similar size.
>
> There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
> good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
> pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>
>
> Matt
.........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
(under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
pleased thus far. Cheers.

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
> Robert wrote:
>
>> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>
> There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
> It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
> also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
> but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>
> I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
> inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
> just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
> or so of the windshield clear.
>
> The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
> occasional noise.
>
> The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
> bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
> and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
> will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
> The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
> the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
> of it.
>
> The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
> of similar size.
>
> There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
> good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
> pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>
>
> Matt
.........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
(under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
pleased thus far. Cheers.

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
> Robert wrote:
>
>> We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>> '05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>> this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>> purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>> about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>> 100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>> that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>> that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>> have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>> Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>> appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>> thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>
> There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
> It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
> also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
> but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>
> I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
> inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
> just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
> or so of the windshield clear.
>
> The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
> occasional noise.
>
> The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
> bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
> and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
> will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
> The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
> the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
> of it.
>
> The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
> of similar size.
>
> There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
> good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
> pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>
>
> Matt
.........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
(under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
pleased thus far. Cheers.

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Darby OGill wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>
>>
>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>
>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>
>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
>>just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
>>or so of the windshield clear.
>>
>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>occasional noise.
>>
>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
>>bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
>>and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
>>will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
>>The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
>>the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
>>of it.
>>
>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
>>of similar size.
>>
>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
>>pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
> slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
> less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
> console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
> (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
> from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
> supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
> forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
> and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
> weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
> pleased thus far. Cheers.

Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who
has reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank,
etc. These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects.
Just read a few of the car magazine reviews.

I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes
last week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose
to warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.

Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Darby OGill wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>
>>
>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>
>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>
>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
>>just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
>>or so of the windshield clear.
>>
>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>occasional noise.
>>
>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
>>bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
>>and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
>>will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
>>The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
>>the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
>>of it.
>>
>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
>>of similar size.
>>
>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
>>pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
> slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
> less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
> console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
> (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
> from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
> supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
> forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
> and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
> weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
> pleased thus far. Cheers.

Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who
has reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank,
etc. These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects.
Just read a few of the car magazine reviews.

I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes
last week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose
to warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.

Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Darby OGill wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Robert wrote:
>>
>>
>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>
>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>
>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK with
>>just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top 1/4
>>or so of the windshield clear.
>>
>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>occasional noise.
>>
>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example, the
>>bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of Kleenex
>>and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with the door
>>will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to contain a CD.
>>The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are so close to
>>the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup of coffee out
>>of it.
>>
>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other cars
>>of similar size.
>>
>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice interior,
>>pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way, nor
> slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any more or
> less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the center
> console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been longer
> (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can get a creak
> from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car is very quiet,
> supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good and very
> forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG this winter
> and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I feel warm
> weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my car. Very
> pleased thus far. Cheers.

Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who
has reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank,
etc. These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects.
Just read a few of the car magazine reviews.

I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes
last week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose
to warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.

Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:QHL_f.7769$lb.712407@news1.epix.net...
> Darby OGill wrote:
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Robert wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>>
>>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>>
>>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
>>>with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top
>>>1/4 or so of the windshield clear.
>>>
>>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>>occasional noise.
>>>
>>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
>>>the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
>>>Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
>>>the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
>>>contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are
>>>so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup
>>>of coffee out of it.
>>>
>>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
>>>cars of similar size.
>>>
>>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
>>>interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
>> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
>> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way,
>> nor slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any
>> more or less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the
>> center console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been
>> longer (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can
>> get a creak from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car
>> is very quiet, supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good
>> and very forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG
>> this winter and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I
>> feel warm weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my
>> car. Very pleased thus far. Cheers.
>
> Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
> throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who has
> reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank, etc.
> These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects. Just read
> a few of the car magazine reviews.
>
> I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
> seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes last
> week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
> replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose to
> warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
> morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
> is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.
>
> Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:QHL_f.7769$lb.712407@news1.epix.net...
> Darby OGill wrote:
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Robert wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>>
>>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>>
>>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
>>>with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top
>>>1/4 or so of the windshield clear.
>>>
>>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>>occasional noise.
>>>
>>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
>>>the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
>>>Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
>>>the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
>>>contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are
>>>so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup
>>>of coffee out of it.
>>>
>>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
>>>cars of similar size.
>>>
>>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
>>>interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
>> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
>> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way,
>> nor slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any
>> more or less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the
>> center console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been
>> longer (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can
>> get a creak from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car
>> is very quiet, supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good
>> and very forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG
>> this winter and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I
>> feel warm weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my
>> car. Very pleased thus far. Cheers.
>
> Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
> throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who has
> reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank, etc.
> These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects. Just read
> a few of the car magazine reviews.
>
> I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
> seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes last
> week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
> replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose to
> warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
> morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
> is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.
>
> Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:QHL_f.7769$lb.712407@news1.epix.net...
> Darby OGill wrote:
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:Y8E_f.7768$lb.711831@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Robert wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>We have a 2005 Elantra with 9000 plus miles on it. Got it in Oct of
>>>>'05 and am very pleased with it. I will be needing another car later
>>>>this year. I am thinking of an 06 or 07 Sonata. I am in no rush to
>>>>purchase. My question is, does anyone have any insight or knowledge
>>>>about the '07? Any thought on the warrantee. I heard that the
>>>>100,000 miles will be reduced. Don't know if there is any truth to
>>>>that. Are there any '06 owners that have nagging problems; the type
>>>>that you can live with, no repair for, just a qwerk of the car. i.e I
>>>>have heard there is a lag in gas pedal response, any truth to that.
>>>>Thinks like that I am interested in. Any feed back would be
>>>>appreciated. I know the Sonata is a good car, as is my Elantra. Any
>>>>thoughts on the '07.Thanks.
>>>
>>>There was a long thread here some time ago on the Sonata and its quirks.
>>>It has several, but few a major. Yes, the throttle has both a lag and is
>>>also very sensitive (high gain). Not such a big deal with an automatic,
>>>but my stick shift is a pain to start out with.
>>>
>>>I also think the heater is feeble at temps below 20F and the defroster is
>>>inadequate also below about 20F with 4-5 people in the car. It is OK
>>>with just me, but with a car load it is nearly impossible to keep the top
>>>1/4 or so of the windshield clear.
>>>
>>>The gas tank makes sloshing noises and the rear suspension makes an
>>>occasional noise.
>>>
>>>The storage bins are too small for commonly sized items. For example,
>>>the bin under the armrest is too small to easily fit a square box of
>>>Kleenex and too small for CD cases. The storage cubby in the dash with
>>>the door will handle CDs with the door left open, but is too short to
>>>contain a CD. The cupholders in the console, especially the rear one, are
>>>so close to the armrest that you need to be double jointed to get a cup
>>>of coffee out of it.
>>>
>>>The fuel mileage isn't great as compared to the EPA ratings and other
>>>cars of similar size.
>>>
>>>There are, however, many things to like. The Sonata is quiet, roomy, has
>>>good performance, good fit and finish, excellent styling, a nice
>>>interior, pretty nice gauges and controls, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> ........here we go again <grin>.......Matts last paragraph is right on
>> IMO..... his preceding paragraphs must apply to one Sonata at least, but
>> not any of those conditions apply to mine.....touchy throttle? no way,
>> nor slosh in tank, lots of storage areas, haven't noticed them being any
>> more or less perfect than those in other cars, and I fit CD's in the
>> center console.........I do think the front seat cushion should have been
>> longer (under the thigh).... If I slam into a New England pothole I can
>> get a creak from the dash area,(not a suspension noise) otherwise the car
>> is very quiet, supple, and smooth on all surfaces. Its handling is good
>> and very forgiving-easy car to drive fast, and it is fast.......My MPG
>> this winter and spring averages 26mpg (lx v6 auto) with a best of 29. I
>> feel warm weather may up those figures. I now have 12,500 miles on my
>> car. Very pleased thus far. Cheers.
>
> Some folks are just more attuned to noises and things like a touchy
> throttle. The throttle has been mentioned by almost every person who has
> reviewed the Sonata during a driving test as has the sloshing tank, etc.
> These are "features" of the Sonata's design, not sample defects. Just read
> a few of the car magazine reviews.
>
> I have the dash creak also. Mine happens mainly when it is cold, and
> seems to be less now that the weather is warming. I spend 45 minutes last
> week driving around with a technician from the dealership trying to
> replicate it. Of course, this was in the afternoon on a day that chose to
> warm up to 60 and rain. Could not make the creak happen. The next
> morning at 30 degress, it creaked several times on my way to work. Mine
> is just one loud creak/snap when I hit an abrupt bump. Weird.
>
> Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Darby OGill wrote:
> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
> I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
> throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
> an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
> better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
> cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers

I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)

Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
(again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.


Matt

Re: I wish to purchase either an '06 or '07 Sonata
 

Darby OGill wrote:
> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
> I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
> throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
> an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
> better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
> cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers

I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)

Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
(again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.


Matt