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CB 11-03-2003 03:05 PM

Query about airbox
 
I have a 96 J2 1.6 Gls Elantra, quite impressed by it considering I only
bought Volkswagens before.
My question concerns the airbox it has a sensor connected to the side of the
top of the airbox above the filter element,
what is it for? and what would happen if I disconnect it, because I would
like to put a ram pipe system in place, I noticed that I have a tube for air
running to the bottom by the airdam and another collector by the bonnet,why
is it designed like this?

Any advice on what ram pipe system I could use will be greatly appreciated
because at the moment it looks quite confusing to me with that sensor and
tube, don't want to remove something that will bugger the system.

Thanks in advance

From
Conroy
South Africa



Dances With Crows 11-03-2003 04:33 PM

Re: Query about airbox
 
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:05:16 +0200, CB staggered into the Black Sun and
said:
> I have a 96 J2 1.6 Gls Elantra, quite impressed by it considering I
> only bought Volkswagens before. My question concerns the airbox it
> has a sensor connected to the side of the top of the airbox above the
> filter element, what is it for?


This is almost certainly the Mass AirFlow (MAF) sensor. It measures the
amount of air the intake system is currently taking in, and sends this
information to the engine control computer, which uses this information
and other parameters to figure out how much fuel to send to each
cylinder at any given time.

> and what would happen if I disconnect it?


Your gas mileage would be horrible.

> because I would like to put a ram pipe system in place


You probably want to move the sensor, not get rid of it, if you're
modifying the intake. Guides I've seen for installing Cold Air Intake
(CAI) modifications on the Tiburon provide instructions on moving the
sensor and making sure it's connected properly.

> I noticed that I have a tube for air running to the bottom by the
> airdam and another collector by the bonnet, why is it designed like
> this?


Good question. Got pics? Post a URL.

> Any advice on what ram pipe system I could use will be greatly
> appreciated


Hm. I'd say "don't bother", because no matter what you do to the
intake, you've got only 1.6L to play with. ("There's no replacement for
displacement.") There's advice for Elantras on
http://www.elantragtclub.com/index/id14.html , and they say that many
intakes designed for a mid-late 1990s Honda Accord should work well with
an Elantra. HTH,

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
....In Hong Kong action movies, they don't have Hollywood Guns with
infinite bullet supplies. Instead, they have Hong Kong Pants(tm) which
hold an infinite supply of loaded pistols. --M. Sphar, the Monastery

Jason 11-03-2003 05:44 PM

Re: Query about airbox
 
On 3 Nov 2003 21:33:51 GMT, Dances With Crows
<danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@usa.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:05:16 +0200, CB staggered into the Black Sun and
>said:
>> I have a 96 J2 1.6 Gls Elantra, quite impressed by it considering I
>> only bought Volkswagens before. My question concerns the airbox it
>> has a sensor connected to the side of the top of the airbox above the
>> filter element, what is it for?

>
>This is almost certainly the Mass AirFlow (MAF) sensor. It measures the
>amount of air the intake system is currently taking in, and sends this
>information to the engine control computer, which uses this information
>and other parameters to figure out how much fuel to send to each
>cylinder at any given time.
>
>> and what would happen if I disconnect it?

>
>Your gas mileage would be horrible.


Don't forget that you would also throw a CEL which means that you
would not pass your state's inspection.

>> because I would like to put a ram pipe system in place

>
>You probably want to move the sensor, not get rid of it, if you're
>modifying the intake. Guides I've seen for installing Cold Air Intake
>(CAI) modifications on the Tiburon provide instructions on moving the
>sensor and making sure it's connected properly.
>
>> I noticed that I have a tube for air running to the bottom by the
>> airdam and another collector by the bonnet, why is it designed like
>> this?

>
>Good question. Got pics? Post a URL.
>
>> Any advice on what ram pipe system I could use will be greatly
>> appreciated

>
>Hm. I'd say "don't bother", because no matter what you do to the
>intake, you've got only 1.6L to play with. ("There's no replacement for
>displacement.") There's advice for Elantras on
>http://www.elantragtclub.com/index/id14.html , and they say that many
>intakes designed for a mid-late 1990s Honda Accord should work well with
>an Elantra. HTH,



Dances With Crows 11-03-2003 06:32 PM

Re: Query about airbox
 
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:44:45 -0500, Jason staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
> On 3 Nov 2003 21:33:51 GMT, Dances With Crows
> <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@usa.net> wrote:
>>On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:05:16 +0200, CB staggered into the Black Sun and
>>said:
>>> I have a 96 J2 1.6 Gls Elantra, quite impressed by it considering I
>>> only bought Volkswagens before. My question concerns the airbox it
>>> has a sensor connected to the side of the top of the airbox above
>>> the filter element, what is it for?

>>This is almost certainly the Mass AirFlow (MAF) sensor.
>>> and what would happen if I disconnect it?

>>Your gas mileage would be horrible.

> Don't forget that you would also throw a CEL which means that you
> would not pass your state's inspection.


CB is posting from .za, where the vehicle laws are a bit different than
they are in parts of the .us . But yeah, removing the sensor would
result in lots of unburned hydrocarbons in your exhaust.

CB: search for a CAI installation guide on the websites devoted to
tuning Elantras. I wouldn't expect too much though; the folks who put
an AEM CAI on a 4-cylinder 2.0L Tiburon reported ~7 HP gain at/near 4000
RPM, and you will get less than that since your engine's smaller.

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Love is a snowmobile racing across the Arctic tundra that suddenly flips
over, pinning you underneath. At night, the Ice Weasels come. --Matt
Groening, "Love Is Hell"

Neil J. Hubbard 11-03-2003 06:57 PM

Re: Query about airbox
 


> CB: search for a CAI installation guide on the websites devoted to
> tuning Elantras. I wouldn't expect too much though; the folks who put
> an AEM CAI on a 4-cylinder 2.0L Tiburon reported ~7 HP gain at/near 4000
> RPM, and you will get less than that since your engine's smaller.


(snip)

This should do it.

http://www.elantraxd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=6

Regards,

Neil




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