question fer hyundaitech...
Is it normal for a V6 2.7 litre at 24,000 k to need to have both the oil pan
gasket and transmission gasket replaced cause they are leaking already?? I can see maybe one, but both??? even one at that kinda milage is kinda strange.... thats whats happening on my 2006 Santa Fe... love the attitude of the dealer though.. when you show yer concern, about it, well its under warranty..so what ya worried about.. also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine instead of the 10 - 30?? Pete... |
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Pete & Cindy wrote:
> also whats your thoughts > about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine instead of the 10 - 30?? The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no advantage to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a really hot environment. |
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"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... > Pete & Cindy wrote: >> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine instead >> of the 10 - 30?? > > The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no advantage > to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a really hot > environment. I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of bearings is tighter than older engines and after some amount of miles you can switch to the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. |
Re: question fer hyundaitech...
Your engine/transmission combination is used in several models since 1999,
and the oil pan and transmission pan rarely leak. If repaired properly, the seals should last a long time. |
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... >> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine instead >>> of the 10 - 30?? >> The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no advantage >> to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a really hot >> environment. > > I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of bearings is > tighter than older engines and after some amount of miles you can switch to > the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. The issue is the size of the oil passages in the block and head, which don't get bigger with use. |
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Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message >> news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... >>> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>>> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine >>>> instead of the 10 - 30?? >>> The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no >>> advantage to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a really >>> hot environment. >> >> I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of >> bearings is tighter than older engines and after some amount of miles >> you can switch to the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. > > The issue is the size of the oil passages in the block and head, which > don't get bigger with use. Actually, I've been told that the issue is fuel economy. The lighter oils help a little on the EPA tests and every little bit helps. Some time ago a guy on the chrysler auto newsgroup debunked the myth about tighter clearances. He posted several key clearances from a 1960s era engine and a 2000 era engine and they were basically identical. Matt |
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but my main question was the dealer says that I should be running 10w30 I
wanna use 5w30 or 5w20.. but it was the service manager that last time suggested I used the lighter oil. so I did. this time when I went the Service Writer told me that I had to use the 10w30 cause that's what Hyundai recomends... shrug.. now more confused... "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:OhRVh.4017$Oc.200973@news1.epix.net... > Brian Nystrom wrote: >> Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... >>>> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>>>> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine >>>>> instead of the 10 - 30?? >>>> The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no >>>> advantage to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a really >>>> hot environment. >>> >>> I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of bearings >>> is tighter than older engines and after some amount of miles you can >>> switch to the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. >> >> The issue is the size of the oil passages in the block and head, which >> don't get bigger with use. > > Actually, I've been told that the issue is fuel economy. The lighter oils > help a little on the EPA tests and every little bit helps. > > Some time ago a guy on the chrysler auto newsgroup debunked the myth about > tighter clearances. He posted several key clearances from a 1960s era > engine and a 2000 era engine and they were basically identical. > > Matt |
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Pete & Cindy wrote:
> but my main question was the dealer says that I should be running 10w30 I > wanna use 5w30 or 5w20.. but it was the service manager that last time > suggested I used the lighter oil. so I did. this time when I went the > Service Writer told me that I had to use the 10w30 cause that's what Hyundai > recomends... shrug.. now more confused... Do you have the owners manual for the car? If so, it should say what the recommended oil viscosity is in the manual. If not, I'd recommend buying a manual. Matt |
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Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:6QSVh.4021$Oc.201170@news1.epix.net: > Pete & Cindy wrote: >> but my main question was the dealer says that I should be running >> 10w30 I wanna use 5w30 or 5w20.. but it was the service manager >> that last time suggested I used the lighter oil. so I did. this time >> when I went the Service Writer told me that I had to use the 10w30 >> cause that's what Hyundai recomends... shrug.. now more confused... > > Do you have the owners manual for the car? If so, it should say what > the recommended oil viscosity is in the manual. If not, I'd recommend > buying a manual. > > Matt As Matt said, you have to look in the manual and match that up with your ambient air temperature, wherever you live, to get what Hyundai recommends. 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 are all acceptable according to my manual, but it really depends on where you live as to the "preferred" viscosity. Eric |
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Manual says its OK , Service Writer says its not..
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message news:6QSVh.4021$Oc.201170@news1.epix.net... > Pete & Cindy wrote: >> but my main question was the dealer says that I should be running 10w30 >> I wanna use 5w30 or 5w20.. but it was the service manager that last time >> suggested I used the lighter oil. so I did. this time when I went the >> Service Writer told me that I had to use the 10w30 cause that's what >> Hyundai recomends... shrug.. now more confused... > > Do you have the owners manual for the car? If so, it should say what the > recommended oil viscosity is in the manual. If not, I'd recommend buying > a manual. > > Matt |
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"Pete & Cindy" <range1@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:skUVh.99553$DE1.88578@pd7urf2no... > Manual says its OK , Service Writer says its not.. > So, do you believe the manufacturer that had 100+ engineers design and test the engine at a cost of millions of dollars or the service writer that has an opinion from who knows where? |
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Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in > news:6QSVh.4021$Oc.201170@news1.epix.net: > >> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>> but my main question was the dealer says that I should be running >>> 10w30 I wanna use 5w30 or 5w20.. but it was the service manager >>> that last time suggested I used the lighter oil. so I did. this time >>> when I went the Service Writer told me that I had to use the 10w30 >>> cause that's what Hyundai recomends... shrug.. now more confused... >> Do you have the owners manual for the car? If so, it should say what >> the recommended oil viscosity is in the manual. If not, I'd recommend >> buying a manual. >> >> Matt > > As Matt said, you have to look in the manual and match that up with your > ambient air temperature, wherever you live, to get what Hyundai recommends. > > 5w20, 5w30 and 10w30 are all acceptable according to my manual, but it > really depends on where you live as to the "preferred" viscosity. > > Eric Generally, you want to use the lightest weight that is acceptable for your climate. I use Castrol Syntec 5W20 as that meets my needs year round. Matt |
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Pete & Cindy wrote:
> Manual says its OK , Service Writer says its not.. Personally, I will believe the person who designed and manufactures the car over the dealer personnel any day. No offense hyundaitech! Not that there can't be a mistake in the manual, but unless the service writer can show me a TSB that supersedes the manual recommendation, I'll stick with the manual recommendation. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
> Brian Nystrom wrote: >> Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... >>>> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>>>> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine >>>>> instead of the 10 - 30?? >>>> The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no >>>> advantage to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a >>>> really hot environment. >>> >>> I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of >>> bearings is tighter than older engines and after some amount of miles >>> you can switch to the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. >> >> The issue is the size of the oil passages in the block and head, which >> don't get bigger with use. > > Actually, I've been told that the issue is fuel economy. The lighter > oils help a little on the EPA tests and every little bit helps. True. > Some time ago a guy on the chrysler auto newsgroup debunked the myth > about tighter clearances. He posted several key clearances from a 1960s > era engine and a 2000 era engine and they were basically identical. What possible correlation could there be between Chrysler engines and Hyundai engines? You're comparing apples to oranges. |
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Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote: >> Brian Nystrom wrote: >>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message >>>> news:UkmVh.15123$Ln5.2420@trndny06... >>>>> Pete & Cindy wrote: >>>>>> also whats your thoughts about runnin 5 - 30 oil in that engine >>>>>> instead of the 10 - 30?? >>>>> The engines are designed to use 5w-20 or 5w-30 oil. There is no >>>>> advantage to using heavier 10w-based oils unless you live in a >>>>> really hot environment. >>>> >>>> I'm told the lighter weight oil is required because the fit of >>>> bearings is tighter than older engines and after some amount of >>>> miles you can switch to the 10W. Don't know if that is true or not. >>> >>> The issue is the size of the oil passages in the block and head, >>> which don't get bigger with use. >> >> Actually, I've been told that the issue is fuel economy. The lighter >> oils help a little on the EPA tests and every little bit helps. > > True. > >> Some time ago a guy on the chrysler auto newsgroup debunked the myth >> about tighter clearances. He posted several key clearances from a >> 1960s era engine and a 2000 era engine and they were basically identical. > > What possible correlation could there be between Chrysler engines and > Hyundai engines? You're comparing apples to oranges. Two correlations: 1. Most engine makers use the same basic machining equipment and the clearances really don't vary much across manufacturers. I have service manuals for everything from VW Beetles to my Sonata and the clearances just aren't that different. 2. My 2.4L Sonata engine was designed in conjunction with Chrysler. Next question? :-) Matt |
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