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theta00k@yahoo.com 07-06-2003 09:20 PM

Re: Transmission: Pulse Generator & Vehicle Speed Sensor, is it hard to replace them?
 
"KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in message news:<p_0Oa.52072$926.6337@sccrnsc03>...
> I was finally able to check the fluid level per the referenced service
> bulletin. It actually shows up as being apx. 2mm above the full hot mark
> after running it a bit, parking it on level ground, going from park to
> reverse, to drive, to 2, to Low and back to Neutral. (and checking it while
> it is running)
>
> The little puddle of fluid is on the top of the transmission farther aft of
> the dipstick tube. There appears to be a breather or something (a black cap
> over a protrusion from the top of the transmission). that might explain the
> excess fluid around that area, however I don't know what it would mean to
> have a little fluid on top like that.
>
> Once the transmission warms up it tends not to surge. Now that it is summer
> and the ambient temperature is in the 90s it is also a bit better on startup
> too, but it still concerns me.
>
> I wonder if replacing those two components, the pulse generator and vehicle
> speed sensor, is the "take two aspirin and call me in the morning -- your
> bill is $50" for dealers? I have no idea. The tranny's behavior on startup
> is EXACTLY like the description given on the linked sheet, although the
> slowing down - surging hasn't occurred for quite some time and might have
> been due to low fluid at some time or other (had the fluid changed since
> then).


Where did you have the fluid changed? Hyundai dealer?

> <theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bdm6dm$36s_002@newstest2.earthlink.net...
> > In article <SPoLa.44285$Bg.29054@rwcrnsc54>, "KWW"

> <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
> > >Got the transmission to act up again this afternoon. It was cool in
> > >temperatured since it hadn't been driven for a day or so. (Mode = Power,
> > >Overdrive=OFF) When it was going about 25 mph in 2nd, steady gas pedal
> > >pressure, the engine started going faster without an accompanying
> > >acceleration in the vehicle speed. (like it was freewheeling) If I
> > >accelerated a bit or took my foot off the gas it seemed to behave again.
> > >Then, when it was shifting into third it seemed to take a little longer

> than
> > >it does when it is normally operating and it finally engaged. The engine
> > >thus sped up while it was shifting.
> > >
> > > Once it was warmed up all was fine.

> >
> > Read this TSB and check the ATF level following the procedure exactly as

> it
> > tells you.
> > http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...468#_394880468


theta00k@yahoo.com 07-07-2003 02:54 PM

Re: Transmission: Pulse Generator & Vehicle Speed Sensor, is it hard to replace them?
 
In article <uubOa.58817$Xm3.15064@sccrnsc02>, "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
>Yes, and a good dealership at that. We have two dealerships on our side of
>town. One had no business in the service department and sales was lagging.
>The other was always busy and seemed to be pulling in a brisk business.
>People we knew had been to the latter place and had recommended it. The
>opposite held true for the former dealership.
>
>It had been acting up a little before the fluid was changed (like not long
>after we got it used) but it apparently shifted more crisply, according to
>my son who drives it most all of the time.


Now you need to scan the transmission computer for any trouble code.
You can do this without a scan tool, but an analog voltmeter or a buzzer is
required.

http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...d=10461#_10461

><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4bc10560.0307061720.7e45a920@posting.google. com...
>> "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in message

>news:<p_0Oa.52072$926.6337@sccrnsc03>...
>> > I was finally able to check the fluid level per the referenced service
>> > bulletin. It actually shows up as being apx. 2mm above the full hot

>mark
>> > after running it a bit, parking it on level ground, going from park to
>> > reverse, to drive, to 2, to Low and back to Neutral. (and checking it

>while
>> > it is running)
>> >
>> > The little puddle of fluid is on the top of the transmission farther aft

>of
>> > the dipstick tube. There appears to be a breather or something (a black

>cap
>> > over a protrusion from the top of the transmission). that might explain

>the
>> > excess fluid around that area, however I don't know what it would mean

>to
>> > have a little fluid on top like that.
>> >
>> > Once the transmission warms up it tends not to surge. Now that it is

>summer
>> > and the ambient temperature is in the 90s it is also a bit better on

>startup
>> > too, but it still concerns me.
>> >
>> > I wonder if replacing those two components, the pulse generator and

>vehicle
>> > speed sensor, is the "take two aspirin and call me in the morning --

>your
>> > bill is $50" for dealers? I have no idea. The tranny's behavior on

>startup
>> > is EXACTLY like the description given on the linked sheet, although the
>> > slowing down - surging hasn't occurred for quite some time and might

>have
>> > been due to low fluid at some time or other (had the fluid changed since
>> > then).

>>
>> Where did you have the fluid changed? Hyundai dealer?
>>
>> > <theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> > news:bdm6dm$36s_002@newstest2.earthlink.net...
>> > > In article <SPoLa.44285$Bg.29054@rwcrnsc54>, "KWW"
>> > <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
>> > > >Got the transmission to act up again this afternoon. It was cool in
>> > > >temperatured since it hadn't been driven for a day or so. (Mode =

>Power,
>> > > >Overdrive=OFF) When it was going about 25 mph in 2nd, steady gas

>pedal
>> > > >pressure, the engine started going faster without an accompanying
>> > > >acceleration in the vehicle speed. (like it was freewheeling) If I
>> > > >accelerated a bit or took my foot off the gas it seemed to behave

>again.
>> > > >Then, when it was shifting into third it seemed to take a little

>longer
>> > than
>> > > >it does when it is normally operating and it finally engaged. The

>engine
>> > > >thus sped up while it was shifting.
>> > > >
>> > > > Once it was warmed up all was fine.
>> > >
>> > > Read this TSB and check the ATF level following the procedure exactly

>as
>> > it
>> > > tells you.
>> > > http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...468#_394880468

>
>


KWW 07-07-2003 10:18 PM

Re: Transmission: Pulse Generator & Vehicle Speed Sensor, is it hard to replace them?
 
Thanks, will do, I didn't seem to find what pulse indication meant what, but
I did access the page in the link and will write down whatever info seems to
eminate.
KWW
<theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:becfj9$2rg_002@news.earthlink.net...
> In article <uubOa.58817$Xm3.15064@sccrnsc02>, "KWW"

<kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
> >Yes, and a good dealership at that. We have two dealerships on our side

of
> >town. One had no business in the service department and sales was

lagging.
> >The other was always busy and seemed to be pulling in a brisk business.
> >People we knew had been to the latter place and had recommended it. The
> >opposite held true for the former dealership.
> >
> >It had been acting up a little before the fluid was changed (like not

long
> >after we got it used) but it apparently shifted more crisply, according

to
> >my son who drives it most all of the time.

>
> Now you need to scan the transmission computer for any trouble code.
> You can do this without a scan tool, but an analog voltmeter or a buzzer

is
> required.
>
> http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...d=10461#_10461
>
> ><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:4bc10560.0307061720.7e45a920@posting.google. com...
> >> "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in message

> >news:<p_0Oa.52072$926.6337@sccrnsc03>...
> >> > I was finally able to check the fluid level per the referenced

service
> >> > bulletin. It actually shows up as being apx. 2mm above the full hot

> >mark
> >> > after running it a bit, parking it on level ground, going from park

to
> >> > reverse, to drive, to 2, to Low and back to Neutral. (and checking it

> >while
> >> > it is running)
> >> >
> >> > The little puddle of fluid is on the top of the transmission farther

aft
> >of
> >> > the dipstick tube. There appears to be a breather or something (a

black
> >cap
> >> > over a protrusion from the top of the transmission). that might

explain
> >the
> >> > excess fluid around that area, however I don't know what it would

mean
> >to
> >> > have a little fluid on top like that.
> >> >
> >> > Once the transmission warms up it tends not to surge. Now that it is

> >summer
> >> > and the ambient temperature is in the 90s it is also a bit better on

> >startup
> >> > too, but it still concerns me.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder if replacing those two components, the pulse generator and

> >vehicle
> >> > speed sensor, is the "take two aspirin and call me in the morning --

> >your
> >> > bill is $50" for dealers? I have no idea. The tranny's behavior on

> >startup
> >> > is EXACTLY like the description given on the linked sheet, although

the
> >> > slowing down - surging hasn't occurred for quite some time and might

> >have
> >> > been due to low fluid at some time or other (had the fluid changed

since
> >> > then).
> >>
> >> Where did you have the fluid changed? Hyundai dealer?
> >>
> >> > <theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:bdm6dm$36s_002@newstest2.earthlink.net...
> >> > > In article <SPoLa.44285$Bg.29054@rwcrnsc54>, "KWW"
> >> > <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
> >> > > >Got the transmission to act up again this afternoon. It was cool

in
> >> > > >temperatured since it hadn't been driven for a day or so. (Mode =

> >Power,
> >> > > >Overdrive=OFF) When it was going about 25 mph in 2nd, steady gas

> >pedal
> >> > > >pressure, the engine started going faster without an accompanying
> >> > > >acceleration in the vehicle speed. (like it was freewheeling) If

I
> >> > > >accelerated a bit or took my foot off the gas it seemed to behave

> >again.
> >> > > >Then, when it was shifting into third it seemed to take a little

> >longer
> >> > than
> >> > > >it does when it is normally operating and it finally engaged. The

> >engine
> >> > > >thus sped up while it was shifting.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Once it was warmed up all was fine.
> >> > >
> >> > > Read this TSB and check the ATF level following the procedure

exactly
> >as
> >> > it
> >> > > tells you.
> >> > >

http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...468#_394880468
> >
> >




theta00k@yahoo.com 07-07-2003 11:21 PM

Re: Transmission: Pulse Generator & Vehicle Speed Sensor, is it hard to replace them?
 
In article <xRpOa.2849$H17.1191@sccrnsc02>, "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
>Thanks, will do, I didn't seem to find what pulse indication meant what, but
>I did access the page in the link and will write down whatever info seems to
>eminate.


sorry I forgot this one

http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...?id=6097#_6097

><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:becfj9$2rg_002@news.earthlink.net...
>> In article <uubOa.58817$Xm3.15064@sccrnsc02>, "KWW"

><kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
>> >Yes, and a good dealership at that. We have two dealerships on our side

>of
>> >town. One had no business in the service department and sales was

>lagging.
>> >The other was always busy and seemed to be pulling in a brisk business.
>> >People we knew had been to the latter place and had recommended it. The
>> >opposite held true for the former dealership.
>> >
>> >It had been acting up a little before the fluid was changed (like not

>long
>> >after we got it used) but it apparently shifted more crisply, according

>to
>> >my son who drives it most all of the time.

>>
>> Now you need to scan the transmission computer for any trouble code.
>> You can do this without a scan tool, but an analog voltmeter or a buzzer

>is
>> required.
>>
>> http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...d=10461#_10461
>>
>> ><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:4bc10560.0307061720.7e45a920@posting.google. com...
>> >> "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote in message
>> >news:<p_0Oa.52072$926.6337@sccrnsc03>...
>> >> > I was finally able to check the fluid level per the referenced

>service
>> >> > bulletin. It actually shows up as being apx. 2mm above the full hot
>> >mark
>> >> > after running it a bit, parking it on level ground, going from park

>to
>> >> > reverse, to drive, to 2, to Low and back to Neutral. (and checking it
>> >while
>> >> > it is running)
>> >> >
>> >> > The little puddle of fluid is on the top of the transmission farther

>aft
>> >of
>> >> > the dipstick tube. There appears to be a breather or something (a

>black
>> >cap
>> >> > over a protrusion from the top of the transmission). that might

>explain
>> >the
>> >> > excess fluid around that area, however I don't know what it would

>mean
>> >to
>> >> > have a little fluid on top like that.
>> >> >
>> >> > Once the transmission warms up it tends not to surge. Now that it is
>> >summer
>> >> > and the ambient temperature is in the 90s it is also a bit better on
>> >startup
>> >> > too, but it still concerns me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wonder if replacing those two components, the pulse generator and
>> >vehicle
>> >> > speed sensor, is the "take two aspirin and call me in the morning --
>> >your
>> >> > bill is $50" for dealers? I have no idea. The tranny's behavior on
>> >startup
>> >> > is EXACTLY like the description given on the linked sheet, although

>the
>> >> > slowing down - surging hasn't occurred for quite some time and might
>> >have
>> >> > been due to low fluid at some time or other (had the fluid changed

>since
>> >> > then).
>> >>
>> >> Where did you have the fluid changed? Hyundai dealer?
>> >>
>> >> > <theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:bdm6dm$36s_002@newstest2.earthlink.net...
>> >> > > In article <SPoLa.44285$Bg.29054@rwcrnsc54>, "KWW"
>> >> > <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
>> >> > > >Got the transmission to act up again this afternoon. It was cool

>in
>> >> > > >temperatured since it hadn't been driven for a day or so. (Mode =
>> >Power,
>> >> > > >Overdrive=OFF) When it was going about 25 mph in 2nd, steady gas
>> >pedal
>> >> > > >pressure, the engine started going faster without an accompanying
>> >> > > >acceleration in the vehicle speed. (like it was freewheeling) If

>I
>> >> > > >accelerated a bit or took my foot off the gas it seemed to behave
>> >again.
>> >> > > >Then, when it was shifting into third it seemed to take a little
>> >longer
>> >> > than
>> >> > > >it does when it is normally operating and it finally engaged. The
>> >engine
>> >> > > >thus sped up while it was shifting.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Once it was warmed up all was fine.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Read this TSB and check the ATF level following the procedure

>exactly
>> >as
>> >> > it
>> >> > > tells you.
>> >> > >

>http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...468#_394880468
>> >
>> >

>
>


theta00k@yahoo.com 07-08-2003 08:39 AM

Re: Transmission: Pulse Generator & Vehicle Speed Sensor, is it hard to replace them?
 
theta00k@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<bedd93$3c0_002@newstest2.earthlink.net>...
> In article <xRpOa.2849$H17.1191@sccrnsc02>, "KWW" <kwalker@nospamaircooled.net> wrote:
> >Thanks, will do, I didn't seem to find what pulse indication meant what, but
> >I did access the page in the link and will write down whatever info seems to
> >eminate.

>
> sorry I forgot this one
>
> http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...?id=6097#_6097


Also check the TPS as described in this TSB.
http://www.hmaservice.com/webtech/ii...369#_394875369
What's the VIN of the car?


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