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suretrade001@hotmail.com 01-10-2006 09:54 PM

Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
Help please. There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
bumper and the driver side headlight. Between that crevice is a very
noticeable corrosion forming. Looks like it has already form a
horizontal line of rust.

Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?


Don 01-11-2006 07:26 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.

You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.


Don 01-11-2006 07:26 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.

You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.


nothermark 01-11-2006 07:27 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
On 10 Jan 2006 18:54:47 -0800, suretrade001@hotmail.com wrote:

>Help please. There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight. Between that crevice is a very
>noticeable corrosion forming. Looks like it has already form a
>horizontal line of rust.
>
>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?



With my 2006 the dealer said I havecorrosion protection *IF* i go in
every 6 mo for a $10 car wash. Did you get a similar deal? They also
pushed that there was a rustout warranty but that I had to maintain
the paint etc. I would talk to the dealer and see wha they said.

nothermark 01-11-2006 07:27 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
On 10 Jan 2006 18:54:47 -0800, suretrade001@hotmail.com wrote:

>Help please. There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight. Between that crevice is a very
>noticeable corrosion forming. Looks like it has already form a
>horizontal line of rust.
>
>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?



With my 2006 the dealer said I havecorrosion protection *IF* i go in
every 6 mo for a $10 car wash. Did you get a similar deal? They also
pushed that there was a rustout warranty but that I had to maintain
the paint etc. I would talk to the dealer and see wha they said.

Don 01-11-2006 10:13 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
A follow-up . . . here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty. Please note the last
sentence - no warranty for surface rust. For compensation on this
warranty, it must rust from the inside of a body panel to the outside.
---------
Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year
(previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years).

Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to
outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects
in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.

Excludes surface corrosion.
--------

I would suggest that timely washing and waxing, and other measures
against rust and corrosion be taken, especially at seams. This is a
typical place for corrosion to begin. Again, a routine application of
WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
good preventive measure.


Don 01-11-2006 10:13 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
A follow-up . . . here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty. Please note the last
sentence - no warranty for surface rust. For compensation on this
warranty, it must rust from the inside of a body panel to the outside.
---------
Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year
(previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years).

Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to
outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects
in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.

Excludes surface corrosion.
--------

I would suggest that timely washing and waxing, and other measures
against rust and corrosion be taken, especially at seams. This is a
typical place for corrosion to begin. Again, a routine application of
WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
good preventive measure.


randy.mantle@gmail.com 01-11-2006 10:24 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
You should try using a Rust Preventive Coating from POR-15. I have had
wonderful success with it. One of my buddies turned me onto it.
http://por15store.com


randy.mantle@gmail.com 01-11-2006 10:24 AM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
You should try using a Rust Preventive Coating from POR-15. I have had
wonderful success with it. One of my buddies turned me onto it.
http://por15store.com


hyundaitech 01-11-2006 12:46 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
This may be a paint warranty issue. If that area of the car was damaged in
any sort of collision, expect coverage to be denied.


hyundaitech 01-11-2006 12:46 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
This may be a paint warranty issue. If that area of the car was damaged in
any sort of collision, expect coverage to be denied.


suretrade001@hotmail.com 01-11-2006 01:23 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 

Don wrote:
> This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
> the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
> fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.
>
> You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
> addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
> those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.


So, spray WD-40 on the rust? Will that remove it?


suretrade001@hotmail.com 01-11-2006 01:23 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 

Don wrote:
> This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
> the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
> fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.
>
> You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
> addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
> those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.


So, spray WD-40 on the rust? Will that remove it?


Jody 01-11-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
im pretty sure theres a paint defect warranty for a year..
"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136992414.138026.306440@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>A follow-up . . . here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
> Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty. Please note the last
> sentence - no warranty for surface rust. For compensation on this
> warranty, it must rust from the inside of a body panel to the outside.
> ---------
> Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year
> (previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years).
>
> Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to
> outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects
> in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
>
> Excludes surface corrosion.
> --------
>
> I would suggest that timely washing and waxing, and other measures
> against rust and corrosion be taken, especially at seams. This is a
> typical place for corrosion to begin. Again, a routine application of
> WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
> good preventive measure.
>




Jody 01-11-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
im pretty sure theres a paint defect warranty for a year..
"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1136992414.138026.306440@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>A follow-up . . . here is a copy and paste of the Hyundai 7
> Year/Unlimited Miles Anti-Perforation warranty. Please note the last
> sentence - no warranty for surface rust. For compensation on this
> warranty, it must rust from the inside of a body panel to the outside.
> ---------
> Covers 7 years unlimited miles starting with 2005 Model Year
> (previously 5 year/100,00 Miles for 2004 and prior model years).
>
> Covers perforation (rust hole through the body panel from inside to
> outside) corrosion of original Hyundai body sheet metal due to defects
> in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance.
>
> Excludes surface corrosion.
> --------
>
> I would suggest that timely washing and waxing, and other measures
> against rust and corrosion be taken, especially at seams. This is a
> typical place for corrosion to begin. Again, a routine application of
> WD40 to seams, and other areas where moisture seams to collect, is a
> good preventive measure.
>




gerry 01-11-2006 03:33 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On 10 Jan 2006 18:54:47 -0800, suretrade001@hotmail.com wrote:

>Help please. There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight. Between that crevice is a very
>noticeable corrosion forming. Looks like it has already form a
>horizontal line of rust.
>
>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?


Although I haven't needed to test it, my 06 Sonata has a 12 month coverage
of ANY defect, wear and tear parts included, damage not included.

Give your dealer a chance at treating you well before any other actions.

gerry

--

Personal home page - http://gogood.com

gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots

gerry 01-11-2006 03:33 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 
[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On 10 Jan 2006 18:54:47 -0800, suretrade001@hotmail.com wrote:

>Help please. There is a small crevice that separates the driver side
>bumper and the driver side headlight. Between that crevice is a very
>noticeable corrosion forming. Looks like it has already form a
>horizontal line of rust.
>
>Is there warranty coverage for this and if not, please tell me
>what cleaning material to buy so I can take care of this on my own?


Although I haven't needed to test it, my 06 Sonata has a 12 month coverage
of ANY defect, wear and tear parts included, damage not included.

Give your dealer a chance at treating you well before any other actions.

gerry

--

Personal home page - http://gogood.com

gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots

Mike Marlow 01-11-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 

<suretrade001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137003827.294716.170540@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Don wrote:
> > This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> > I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
> > the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
> > fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.
> >
> > You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
> > addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
> > those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.

>
> So, spray WD-40 on the rust? Will that remove it?
>


No. WD-40 will do a couple of things - it will chase water to a degree, and
it will "remove" surface rust to a degree. It does not remove rust though.
You can wash a bit of the oxide you see away with it and that gives the
illusion of removing the rust, but be assured that laying behind, in pits in
the steel, is more rust. Spray it with WD-40 every day, and you won't get
rid of the rust with WD-40. The only way to get rid of rust is to remove
the affected metal. This can be by sandblasting if it's not too bad, (as in
your case) or by grinding out metal in more extreme cases. The bare or
repaired area would then have to be finished in approved ways.

You can convert rust with some chemicals available over the counter.
Typical Rustoleum paint is not one of these products. There are agents out
there though (can't think of a brand name), that will react with the iron
oxide and turn the affected area black - the sign that the chemical
conversion has taken place. You should finish this area in normal ways
also.

Additionally, you can use a product like POR-15 which seals the rust area in
an airtight layer. Prevent the air from getting to the area and you prevent
oxidation - rust. POR-15 needs to be finished as well.

If you really want your car fixed the right way, take it to the dealer and
see what they'll do for you. If you are left holding the bag, then go to a
good body shop and let them fix it. They will sandblast the affected are to
remove the surface rust completely, will probably hit the bare steel with an
etching primer followed by an epoxy primer, base and clear coats. Properly
done, this will be a repair that will last the life of the car, and will
match the finish of the car without the cob-job appearance of the above
mentioned approaches.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 01-11-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Rust is already forming on '05 elantra
 

<suretrade001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137003827.294716.170540@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Don wrote:
> > This specific area in the front is surrounded by plastic or vinyl, thus
> > I'm surprised rust would form in this area. The area to the rear of
> > the headlight on the side of the car (where the bumper meets the
> > fender), now this is an area that I could see potential rust formation.
> >
> > You may wish to address this with your dealer. Another thought, in
> > addition to keeping the car waxed, you may wish to spray some WD40 in
> > those specific areas to minimize the moisture in that area.

>
> So, spray WD-40 on the rust? Will that remove it?
>


No. WD-40 will do a couple of things - it will chase water to a degree, and
it will "remove" surface rust to a degree. It does not remove rust though.
You can wash a bit of the oxide you see away with it and that gives the
illusion of removing the rust, but be assured that laying behind, in pits in
the steel, is more rust. Spray it with WD-40 every day, and you won't get
rid of the rust with WD-40. The only way to get rid of rust is to remove
the affected metal. This can be by sandblasting if it's not too bad, (as in
your case) or by grinding out metal in more extreme cases. The bare or
repaired area would then have to be finished in approved ways.

You can convert rust with some chemicals available over the counter.
Typical Rustoleum paint is not one of these products. There are agents out
there though (can't think of a brand name), that will react with the iron
oxide and turn the affected area black - the sign that the chemical
conversion has taken place. You should finish this area in normal ways
also.

Additionally, you can use a product like POR-15 which seals the rust area in
an airtight layer. Prevent the air from getting to the area and you prevent
oxidation - rust. POR-15 needs to be finished as well.

If you really want your car fixed the right way, take it to the dealer and
see what they'll do for you. If you are left holding the bag, then go to a
good body shop and let them fix it. They will sandblast the affected are to
remove the surface rust completely, will probably hit the bare steel with an
etching primer followed by an epoxy primer, base and clear coats. Properly
done, this will be a repair that will last the life of the car, and will
match the finish of the car without the cob-job appearance of the above
mentioned approaches.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net




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