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hyundaitech 02-23-2006 05:20 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
The 2.7 doesn't have the electronic throttle system. It's a direct cable
link from the pedal to the throttle plate.a


Victor A. Garcia 02-24-2006 03:00 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.

I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
that bad at all.

Pete & Cindy wrote:
: is this just an issue with the 3.5 V6?? as I have an 06 Santa Fe with an
: 2.7 V6 and I dont have that problem.. acceleration is nice and smooth
: from the start why would there be a difference from one to the other??
: just curious..
:
: Pete..
:
:
: "fancyhit" <fancyhit@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:1140711347.840501.23660@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
:: Since the other thread was too long for me to navigate thru I thought
:: I'd just start over. Regarding the comments about the accelerator
:: (which I call a gas pedal) I had posted the same thing several months
:: ago about my 2003 Santa Fe. The service people could not fix it. It
:: is not a "computerized" gas pedal, or electronic. I was basically told
:: to live with it. Also, I have spoken with several other Santa Fe
:: owners who have the same thing. You think the company would put out a
:: fix for it. It is very annoying, especially this winter when I want
:: nice smooth starts in the snow. Hyundai Tech's ideas did not work, so
:: for now I just live with it. And I don't care what you say, it has to
:: effect the gas mileage, which isn't good to begin with. Other than
:: than I love the vehicle.



Victor A. Garcia 02-24-2006 03:00 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.

I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
that bad at all.

Pete & Cindy wrote:
: is this just an issue with the 3.5 V6?? as I have an 06 Santa Fe with an
: 2.7 V6 and I dont have that problem.. acceleration is nice and smooth
: from the start why would there be a difference from one to the other??
: just curious..
:
: Pete..
:
:
: "fancyhit" <fancyhit@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:1140711347.840501.23660@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
:: Since the other thread was too long for me to navigate thru I thought
:: I'd just start over. Regarding the comments about the accelerator
:: (which I call a gas pedal) I had posted the same thing several months
:: ago about my 2003 Santa Fe. The service people could not fix it. It
:: is not a "computerized" gas pedal, or electronic. I was basically told
:: to live with it. Also, I have spoken with several other Santa Fe
:: owners who have the same thing. You think the company would put out a
:: fix for it. It is very annoying, especially this winter when I want
:: nice smooth starts in the snow. Hyundai Tech's ideas did not work, so
:: for now I just live with it. And I don't care what you say, it has to
:: effect the gas mileage, which isn't good to begin with. Other than
:: than I love the vehicle.



Victor A. Garcia 02-24-2006 03:00 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.

I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
that bad at all.

Pete & Cindy wrote:
: is this just an issue with the 3.5 V6?? as I have an 06 Santa Fe with an
: 2.7 V6 and I dont have that problem.. acceleration is nice and smooth
: from the start why would there be a difference from one to the other??
: just curious..
:
: Pete..
:
:
: "fancyhit" <fancyhit@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:1140711347.840501.23660@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
:: Since the other thread was too long for me to navigate thru I thought
:: I'd just start over. Regarding the comments about the accelerator
:: (which I call a gas pedal) I had posted the same thing several months
:: ago about my 2003 Santa Fe. The service people could not fix it. It
:: is not a "computerized" gas pedal, or electronic. I was basically told
:: to live with it. Also, I have spoken with several other Santa Fe
:: owners who have the same thing. You think the company would put out a
:: fix for it. It is very annoying, especially this winter when I want
:: nice smooth starts in the snow. Hyundai Tech's ideas did not work, so
:: for now I just live with it. And I don't care what you say, it has to
:: effect the gas mileage, which isn't good to begin with. Other than
:: than I love the vehicle.



Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Victor A. Garcia wrote:
> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
> notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>
> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
> that bad at all.


Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch and
I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5 years
driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on this throttle.


Matt

Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Victor A. Garcia wrote:
> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
> notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>
> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
> that bad at all.


Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch and
I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5 years
driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on this throttle.


Matt

Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Victor A. Garcia wrote:
> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5, never
> notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>
> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is not
> that bad at all.


Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch and
I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5 years
driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on this throttle.


Matt

Eric G. 02-24-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:

> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>> never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>
>> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>> not that bad at all.

>
> Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
> manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
> to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
> standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
> and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
> years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
> this throttle.
>
>
> Matt


Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)

Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
AT.

Eric

Eric G. 02-24-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:

> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>> never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>
>> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>> not that bad at all.

>
> Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
> manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
> to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
> standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
> and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
> years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
> this throttle.
>
>
> Matt


Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)

Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
AT.

Eric

Eric G. 02-24-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:

> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>> Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>> never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>
>> I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>> not that bad at all.

>
> Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
> manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
> to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
> standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
> and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
> years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
> this throttle.
>
>
> Matt


Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)

Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
AT.

Eric

Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>
>>>Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>>>never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>>
>>>I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>>>not that bad at all.

>>
>>Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
>>manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
>>to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
>>standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
>>and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
>>years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
>>this throttle.
>>
>>
>>Matt

>
>
> Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)


Well, about 20% of my starts end up that way, especially if I need to
move quickly and don't have time to futz with the throttle to launch at
around 1000-1200 as I prefer.


> Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
> AT.


I'm not holding my breath. I haven't even received a survey from
Hyundai asking if I like the car. I got a survey asking about the
salesman, finance officer, dealership, etc., but not a peep about the
car. Seems odd for a company that is selling cars to not even ask about
the car. Maybe they don't want to know the answers.


Matt

Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>
>>>Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>>>never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>>
>>>I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>>>not that bad at all.

>>
>>Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
>>manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
>>to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
>>standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
>>and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
>>years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
>>this throttle.
>>
>>
>>Matt

>
>
> Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)


Well, about 20% of my starts end up that way, especially if I need to
move quickly and don't have time to futz with the throttle to launch at
around 1000-1200 as I prefer.


> Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
> AT.


I'm not holding my breath. I haven't even received a survey from
Hyundai asking if I like the car. I got a survey asking about the
salesman, finance officer, dealership, etc., but not a peep about the
car. Seems odd for a company that is selling cars to not even ask about
the car. Maybe they don't want to know the answers.


Matt

Matt Whiting 02-24-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:pACLf.6651$lb.576405@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>
>>>Neither is that a common problem with the 3.5, I have a -03 LX 3.5,
>>>never notice any problem with the fly-by-wire accelerator pedal.
>>>
>>>I'll had loved to get a real tranny (manual), but the 5 speed auto is
>>>not that bad at all.

>>
>>Knowing what I know now about my 06 Sonata, I'd probably not get a
>>manual transmission again with the electronic throttle. It is so hard
>>to start out smoothly that it takes much of the fun out of driving
>>standard. It is just way to hard to coordinate throttle and clutch
>>and I've driving standard shift vehicles for 30 years including 5
>>years driving OTR trucks. Hyundai really needs to do some work on
>>this throttle.
>>
>>
>>Matt

>
>
> Wouldn't it be easier to start doing 2000 RPM clutch drops? :-)


Well, about 20% of my starts end up that way, especially if I need to
move quickly and don't have time to futz with the throttle to launch at
around 1000-1200 as I prefer.


> Seriously, I hope they do something too. It is even getting annoying on my
> AT.


I'm not holding my breath. I haven't even received a survey from
Hyundai asking if I like the car. I got a survey asking about the
salesman, finance officer, dealership, etc., but not a peep about the
car. Seems odd for a company that is selling cars to not even ask about
the car. Maybe they don't want to know the answers.


Matt

Striker 02-25-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
If it is what I think it is ,there is a tsb out for it. I had it done on my
Santa Fe and it helped alot. tsb #04-36-012 PCM reprogramming for
smoother feeling initial acceleration. My dealer did not know that the tsb
was out and and said the same thing until I printed out a copy of the tsb
and showed them. If you want I can email a copy of the tsb, It will be in
..pdf form.

Striker

"fancyhit" <fancyhit@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1140711347.840501.23660@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Since the other thread was too long for me to navigate thru I thought
> I'd just start over. Regarding the comments about the accelerator
> (which I call a gas pedal) I had posted the same thing several months
> ago about my 2003 Santa Fe. The service people could not fix it. It
> is not a "computerized" gas pedal, or electronic. I was basically told
> to live with it. Also, I have spoken with several other Santa Fe
> owners who have the same thing. You think the company would put out a
> fix for it. It is very annoying, especially this winter when I want
> nice smooth starts in the snow. Hyundai Tech's ideas did not work, so
> for now I just live with it. And I don't care what you say, it has to
> effect the gas mileage, which isn't good to begin with. Other than
> than I love the vehicle.
>




Striker 02-25-2006 10:14 PM

Re: Santa Fe Accelerator
 
If it is what I think it is ,there is a tsb out for it. I had it done on my
Santa Fe and it helped alot. tsb #04-36-012 PCM reprogramming for
smoother feeling initial acceleration. My dealer did not know that the tsb
was out and and said the same thing until I printed out a copy of the tsb
and showed them. If you want I can email a copy of the tsb, It will be in
..pdf form.

Striker

"fancyhit" <fancyhit@cox.net> wrote in message
news:1140711347.840501.23660@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Since the other thread was too long for me to navigate thru I thought
> I'd just start over. Regarding the comments about the accelerator
> (which I call a gas pedal) I had posted the same thing several months
> ago about my 2003 Santa Fe. The service people could not fix it. It
> is not a "computerized" gas pedal, or electronic. I was basically told
> to live with it. Also, I have spoken with several other Santa Fe
> owners who have the same thing. You think the company would put out a
> fix for it. It is very annoying, especially this winter when I want
> nice smooth starts in the snow. Hyundai Tech's ideas did not work, so
> for now I just live with it. And I don't care what you say, it has to
> effect the gas mileage, which isn't good to begin with. Other than
> than I love the vehicle.
>





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