Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:54:36 -0600, Bob Adkins <bobad@charter.net>
wrote: >On 10 Feb 2006 06:05:20 -0800, "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote: > >>What are your thoughts? > > >It's amazing how easy it is for the car manufacturers to make customers >happy and earn their loyalty. We practically beg them to give us something >to be loyal about. It isn't that hard. All they have to do is take their >customers seriously. > >For example, nearly 100% or 06 Sonata owners would agree: > >*More supportive seats needed >*Need station tuning on steering wheel >*Need to throttle that stupid seat belt warning >*Fix sloshing fuel tank aggravation >*Firm us suspension >*Better mileage, especially in the 4 cyl. >*Universal leather seat option needed >*Manufacturing cost is probably $25 more for REAL dual exhaust > >If Hyundai doesn't fix all of these problems for 2007, customers will be >disappointed and lose confidence. > >Hyundai needs to invest in its dealerships. They need to develop technical >training centers second to none. Good technicians will keep customers coming >back. No matter how great the car, something will go wrong. When problems >are handled professionally, customers are delighted, and confidence grows. >If the technicians respond with "Noise? I don't hear any noise", then the >customers become disgruntled, and many will not be repeat customers. > >All that said, yes, they need to stay competitive technologically as well. >That takes firm, long term commitment. (translation: Money) That's something >the Asian manufacturers seem to understand better than USA and European >manufacturers. No station tuning o the wheel - just adds crap to break. Seats could be better rest cosmetic BS |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Tunez wrote: > Well I own 3 Hyundai's a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson > Right now in my opinion Hyundai built the XG350 and the Azera that compare > with the BMW, The Linclon LS and the Jaguar, added many many options that > the others charge for and again in my opinion did it for THOUSANDS LESS than > the other guys !!!!! If Hyundai was to build a QUOTE " premium/luxury brand > in the near future ( ahem what is the XG350 and the AZERA ?? ) I for one > would be one of the firts in line to 1st look and second prolly BUY ONE !!! > Think about it , a premium/luxury car, what would it be, a a Mayback/Rolls > Royce/Mecedes Benz wanna be ??? at a Cadillac/Lincoln price !!! > > > Tunez > > > "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1139580320.002021.103380@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > > What are your thoughts? > > > > I can think of four reasons against a premium/luxury Hyundai brand in > > the near future. > > > > Hyundai autos include more standard safety features than anyone else, > > including the premium/luxury brands. Historically their cars have > > provided numerous luxuries. They do not have an economy car image to > > overcome (probable reasons for Acura, Lexus, and Infinity). Warranty > > is already superior to the luxury brands and not just in America, but > > throughout the world. > > > > Wisely, Hyundai focused on reliability and has nearly overcome any bad > > perceptions from the past. Hyundai and Kia already have two brands and > > dealer networks without the cost and risk involved with creating > > another brand. Slowly they are advancing distinct brand directions: > > Kia in a sporty, youth-oriented, fun direction and Hyundai in a luxury, > > conservative, safe one. Hyundai's worldwide R&D is filing a record > > number of patents. I suggest they market technology as an additional > > thrust for the Hyundai brand -- it's more exciting than conservative > > and it fits well with the safety and luxury direction. > > > > Hyundai has a knack for efficiency and already surpasses the other guys > > on this mark. I really hate to see them lose that advantage with the > > extra cost involved in launching a new brand (or like Toyota an > > additional third youth brand). > > > > Last, I fear a luxury brand will introduce an unavoidable negative side > > effect: a change of attitude. Hyundai has fostered a care for the > > customer and do what is right attitude from top to bottom. What I have > > heard, read, and experienced personally leads me to believe this could > > be altered in an environment with premium branding. > > |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Tunez wrote: > Well I own 3 Hyundai's a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson > Right now in my opinion Hyundai built the XG350 and the Azera that compare > with the BMW, The Linclon LS and the Jaguar, added many many options that > the others charge for and again in my opinion did it for THOUSANDS LESS than > the other guys !!!!! If Hyundai was to build a QUOTE " premium/luxury brand > in the near future ( ahem what is the XG350 and the AZERA ?? ) I for one > would be one of the firts in line to 1st look and second prolly BUY ONE !!! > Think about it , a premium/luxury car, what would it be, a a Mayback/Rolls > Royce/Mecedes Benz wanna be ??? at a Cadillac/Lincoln price !!! > > > Tunez > > > "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1139580320.002021.103380@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > > What are your thoughts? > > > > I can think of four reasons against a premium/luxury Hyundai brand in > > the near future. > > > > Hyundai autos include more standard safety features than anyone else, > > including the premium/luxury brands. Historically their cars have > > provided numerous luxuries. They do not have an economy car image to > > overcome (probable reasons for Acura, Lexus, and Infinity). Warranty > > is already superior to the luxury brands and not just in America, but > > throughout the world. > > > > Wisely, Hyundai focused on reliability and has nearly overcome any bad > > perceptions from the past. Hyundai and Kia already have two brands and > > dealer networks without the cost and risk involved with creating > > another brand. Slowly they are advancing distinct brand directions: > > Kia in a sporty, youth-oriented, fun direction and Hyundai in a luxury, > > conservative, safe one. Hyundai's worldwide R&D is filing a record > > number of patents. I suggest they market technology as an additional > > thrust for the Hyundai brand -- it's more exciting than conservative > > and it fits well with the safety and luxury direction. > > > > Hyundai has a knack for efficiency and already surpasses the other guys > > on this mark. I really hate to see them lose that advantage with the > > extra cost involved in launching a new brand (or like Toyota an > > additional third youth brand). > > > > Last, I fear a luxury brand will introduce an unavoidable negative side > > effect: a change of attitude. Hyundai has fostered a care for the > > customer and do what is right attitude from top to bottom. What I have > > heard, read, and experienced personally leads me to believe this could > > be altered in an environment with premium branding. > > |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Tunez wrote: > Well I own 3 Hyundai's a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson > Right now in my opinion Hyundai built the XG350 and the Azera that compare > with the BMW, The Linclon LS and the Jaguar, added many many options that > the others charge for and again in my opinion did it for THOUSANDS LESS than > the other guys !!!!! If Hyundai was to build a QUOTE " premium/luxury brand > in the near future ( ahem what is the XG350 and the AZERA ?? ) I for one > would be one of the firts in line to 1st look and second prolly BUY ONE !!! > Think about it , a premium/luxury car, what would it be, a a Mayback/Rolls > Royce/Mecedes Benz wanna be ??? at a Cadillac/Lincoln price !!! > > > Tunez > > > "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1139580320.002021.103380@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... > > What are your thoughts? > > > > I can think of four reasons against a premium/luxury Hyundai brand in > > the near future. > > > > Hyundai autos include more standard safety features than anyone else, > > including the premium/luxury brands. Historically their cars have > > provided numerous luxuries. They do not have an economy car image to > > overcome (probable reasons for Acura, Lexus, and Infinity). Warranty > > is already superior to the luxury brands and not just in America, but > > throughout the world. > > > > Wisely, Hyundai focused on reliability and has nearly overcome any bad > > perceptions from the past. Hyundai and Kia already have two brands and > > dealer networks without the cost and risk involved with creating > > another brand. Slowly they are advancing distinct brand directions: > > Kia in a sporty, youth-oriented, fun direction and Hyundai in a luxury, > > conservative, safe one. Hyundai's worldwide R&D is filing a record > > number of patents. I suggest they market technology as an additional > > thrust for the Hyundai brand -- it's more exciting than conservative > > and it fits well with the safety and luxury direction. > > > > Hyundai has a knack for efficiency and already surpasses the other guys > > on this mark. I really hate to see them lose that advantage with the > > extra cost involved in launching a new brand (or like Toyota an > > additional third youth brand). > > > > Last, I fear a luxury brand will introduce an unavoidable negative side > > effect: a change of attitude. Hyundai has fostered a care for the > > customer and do what is right attitude from top to bottom. What I have > > heard, read, and experienced personally leads me to believe this could > > be altered in an environment with premium branding. > > |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
I have the 2005 xg350, and also the new azera. Both cars are excellent,
especially the Azera. It has lots of power and luxury, a fantastic car. |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
I have the 2005 xg350, and also the new azera. Both cars are excellent,
especially the Azera. It has lots of power and luxury, a fantastic car. |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
I have the 2005 xg350, and also the new azera. Both cars are excellent,
especially the Azera. It has lots of power and luxury, a fantastic car. |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Eric G. wrote:
> > > They really need to train their salesmen as well. I admit the Sonata is > new, but when I purchased mine in September, I had to teach all of the > salesmen about what this car had in it. And all I did was a little > research. > > Eric This seems to be getting more common with every brand these days. I guess salesmen don't stay at one dealership or in the trade long enough to learn the product any more. John |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Eric G. wrote:
> > > They really need to train their salesmen as well. I admit the Sonata is > new, but when I purchased mine in September, I had to teach all of the > salesmen about what this car had in it. And all I did was a little > research. > > Eric This seems to be getting more common with every brand these days. I guess salesmen don't stay at one dealership or in the trade long enough to learn the product any more. John |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Eric G. wrote:
> > > They really need to train their salesmen as well. I admit the Sonata is > new, but when I purchased mine in September, I had to teach all of the > salesmen about what this car had in it. And all I did was a little > research. > > Eric This seems to be getting more common with every brand these days. I guess salesmen don't stay at one dealership or in the trade long enough to learn the product any more. John |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Umm... I agree that the 2006 Sonata seat belt chime is annoying, but
are any of the replies germain to the topic of a premium/luxury Hyundai brand? |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Umm... I agree that the 2006 Sonata seat belt chime is annoying, but
are any of the replies germain to the topic of a premium/luxury Hyundai brand? |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
Umm... I agree that the 2006 Sonata seat belt chime is annoying, but
are any of the replies germain to the topic of a premium/luxury Hyundai brand? |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
On 10 Feb 2006 22:34:05 -0800, "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote:
>Umm... I agree that the 2006 Sonata seat belt chime is annoying, but >are any of the replies germain to the topic of a premium/luxury Hyundai >brand? Well, the mule is out of the barn. The Azera is out, and I'm betting it will be a winner, although not make the waves the 06 Sonata did. It's obvious that Hyundai is not half stepping. They are apparently determined to become a full line manufacturer, from doodle bug to full-sized luxury sedan. I even expect pickup trucks, small, medium, and large. Is this a mistake? If they build on the inroads they have made with the 06 Sonata, I don't think so. If they avoid bland bread boxes like Toyota and Honda are experimenting with, they can gain market share in a hurry. -- Bob |
Re: Should Hyundai create a premium brand?
On 10 Feb 2006 22:34:05 -0800, "GeoUSA" <GeoUSofA@gmail.com> wrote:
>Umm... I agree that the 2006 Sonata seat belt chime is annoying, but >are any of the replies germain to the topic of a premium/luxury Hyundai >brand? Well, the mule is out of the barn. The Azera is out, and I'm betting it will be a winner, although not make the waves the 06 Sonata did. It's obvious that Hyundai is not half stepping. They are apparently determined to become a full line manufacturer, from doodle bug to full-sized luxury sedan. I even expect pickup trucks, small, medium, and large. Is this a mistake? If they build on the inroads they have made with the 06 Sonata, I don't think so. If they avoid bland bread boxes like Toyota and Honda are experimenting with, they can gain market share in a hurry. -- Bob |
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