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nothermark 06-29-2006 06:51 PM

Sparkplugs
 
any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?

Brian Nystrom 06-30-2006 07:36 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
nothermark wrote:
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
only last 15-30K miles.

Brian Nystrom 06-30-2006 07:36 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
nothermark wrote:
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
only last 15-30K miles.

Brian Nystrom 06-30-2006 07:36 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
nothermark wrote:
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
only last 15-30K miles.

hyundaitech 06-30-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
You've got 60k plugs in the car. At 60k, replace them with good quality
plugs (such as NGK, Nippon Denso).


hyundaitech 06-30-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
You've got 60k plugs in the car. At 60k, replace them with good quality
plugs (such as NGK, Nippon Denso).


hyundaitech 06-30-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
You've got 60k plugs in the car. At 60k, replace them with good quality
plugs (such as NGK, Nippon Denso).


Dave in Lake Villa 06-30-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ? Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
they were needed) after putting these in.


Dave in Lake Villa 06-30-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ? Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
they were needed) after putting these in.


Dave in Lake Villa 06-30-2006 06:03 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ? Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
they were needed) after putting these in.


nothermark 06-30-2006 08:34 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Probably will do 30K this year. Was thinking that changing them
sooner rather than later is better. Also thinking easier to do in
warm weather than cold.

;-)

PS. Thanks for the reply Hyundaitech. Now I will probably let them go
until next spring.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:36:26 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>nothermark wrote:
>> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?

>
>Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
>least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
>'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
>a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
>only last 15-30K miles.


nothermark 06-30-2006 08:34 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Probably will do 30K this year. Was thinking that changing them
sooner rather than later is better. Also thinking easier to do in
warm weather than cold.

;-)

PS. Thanks for the reply Hyundaitech. Now I will probably let them go
until next spring.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:36:26 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>nothermark wrote:
>> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?

>
>Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
>least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
>'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
>a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
>only last 15-30K miles.


nothermark 06-30-2006 08:34 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Probably will do 30K this year. Was thinking that changing them
sooner rather than later is better. Also thinking easier to do in
warm weather than cold.

;-)

PS. Thanks for the reply Hyundaitech. Now I will probably let them go
until next spring.

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:36:26 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>nothermark wrote:
>> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?

>
>Why would you need plugs on a new car? The stock plugs are good for at
>least 30K miles, perhaps as much as 60K. I just replace the plugs on my
>'04 with NGK V-power plugs. They're less than two bucks each and produce
>a hotter spark than platinum or iridium plugs. The downside is that they
>only last 15-30K miles.


hyundaitech 07-01-2006 12:17 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
I've got no personal experience with these particular plugs. My overall
experience with Bosch plugs is positive.


hyundaitech 07-01-2006 12:17 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
I've got no personal experience with these particular plugs. My overall
experience with Bosch plugs is positive.


hyundaitech 07-01-2006 12:17 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
I've got no personal experience with these particular plugs. My overall
experience with Bosch plugs is positive.


Brian Nystrom 07-04-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?


Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
> they were needed) after putting these in.


Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
new plug would do that.

I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

Brian Nystrom 07-04-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?


Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
> they were needed) after putting these in.


Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
new plug would do that.

I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

Brian Nystrom 07-04-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?


Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
> they were needed) after putting these in.


Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
new plug would do that.

I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

JS 07-05-2006 06:02 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>
> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.


You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).

I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
problem went away, go figure.

Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
application sheet, these can always be found online)

>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>
> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
> new plug would do that.
>
> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.


Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)

If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.

JS


JS 07-05-2006 06:02 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>
> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.


You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).

I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
problem went away, go figure.

Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
application sheet, these can always be found online)

>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>
> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
> new plug would do that.
>
> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.


Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)

If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.

JS


JS 07-05-2006 06:02 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>
> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.


You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).

I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
problem went away, go figure.

Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
application sheet, these can always be found online)

>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>
> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost. ANY
> new plug would do that.
>
> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.


Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)

If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.

JS


Brian Nystrom 07-05-2006 06:59 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
JS wrote:
> Brian Nystrom wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>
>>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>>
>>
>> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

>
>
> You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
> pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
> system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
> additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
> which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).


Exactly. The same is true of the 2 and 3 electrode plugs on the market.
If your car has multi-spark ignition, you don't need multi electrode
plugs, so there's still no benefit to them.

> I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
> fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
> the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
> problem went away, go figure.


I've heard of reports of problems with Bosch plugs in Elantras as well.
I don't think it's a quality issue, as they're well made, but perhasp
they got the heat range wrong or something.

> Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
> length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
> seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
> computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
> application sheet, these can always be found online)


Yup.

>>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>>
>>
>> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
>> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost.
>> ANY new plug would do that.
>>
>> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

>
>
> Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
> They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
> as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
> still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
> around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)


Interesting. I'd never heard of them.

> If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
> stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.


Like the NGK V-power plugs. The part number for the Elantra is BKR5E-11.
Their standard copper plugs are #BKR5ES-11.

Brian Nystrom 07-05-2006 06:59 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
JS wrote:
> Brian Nystrom wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>
>>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>>
>>
>> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

>
>
> You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
> pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
> system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
> additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
> which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).


Exactly. The same is true of the 2 and 3 electrode plugs on the market.
If your car has multi-spark ignition, you don't need multi electrode
plugs, so there's still no benefit to them.

> I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
> fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
> the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
> problem went away, go figure.


I've heard of reports of problems with Bosch plugs in Elantras as well.
I don't think it's a quality issue, as they're well made, but perhasp
they got the heat range wrong or something.

> Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
> length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
> seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
> computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
> application sheet, these can always be found online)


Yup.

>>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>>
>>
>> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
>> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost.
>> ANY new plug would do that.
>>
>> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

>
>
> Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
> They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
> as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
> still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
> around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)


Interesting. I'd never heard of them.

> If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
> stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.


Like the NGK V-power plugs. The part number for the Elantra is BKR5E-11.
Their standard copper plugs are #BKR5ES-11.

Brian Nystrom 07-05-2006 06:59 AM

Re: Sparkplugs
 
JS wrote:
> Brian Nystrom wrote:
>
>> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>>
>>> What about Bosch Platinum Plus 4 ?

>>
>>
>> Waste of money. The four electrodes are nothing but a gimmick.

>
>
> You still only get one spark on most OEM ignition systems. They're
> pretty awesome if you've got a high voltage/current multi-spark ignition
> system like an MSD from what I hear.. If you don't have this, the
> additional electrodes just block fuel/air flow around the ignition area,
> which is a Very Bad Thing (tm).


Exactly. The same is true of the 2 and 3 electrode plugs on the market.
If your car has multi-spark ignition, you don't need multi electrode
plugs, so there's still no benefit to them.

> I tried the Bosch single platinums in my Santa Fe.. I noticed a severe
> fuel economy/power loss with regular misfires. Checked to make sure all
> the connections were tight - they were... Replaced the plugs and the
> problem went away, go figure.


I've heard of reports of problems with Bosch plugs in Elantras as well.
I don't think it's a quality issue, as they're well made, but perhasp
they got the heat range wrong or something.

> Spark plugs are cheap and easy to swap out, and unless you buy the wrong
> length (look it up and double check visually before installation),
> seal-type (wedge or washer) or heat range (not every parts store
> computer is correct - always check against the plug manufacturer's
> application sheet, these can always be found online)


Yup.

>>> Ive heard from Hyundai owners that
>>> there was a noticable difference in performance and smoothness (before
>>> they were needed) after putting these in.

>>
>>
>> Well, it's either due to the placebo effect or their plugs were really
>> bad and putting in new ones restored the performance they had lost.
>> ANY new plug would do that.
>>
>> I agree with Hyundaitech that NGK and Nippon Denso are excellent plugs.

>
>
> Best plugs I've found so far for the 2.7 are the Champion Truck Plugs.
> They're copper so its easy on the ignition electronics, but last as long
> as most platinums (I'm at about 55k on these plugs so far on the 01,
> still have the same gap, no misfires, no typical champion 'blow-by'
> around the ceramic, and no noticable drop in fuel economy)


Interesting. I'd never heard of them.

> If you're into the cheezy OEM wire sets arcing-out and blown coil packs,
> stick to using the platinum plugs. Otherwise, look for a good copper plug.


Like the NGK V-power plugs. The part number for the Elantra is BKR5E-11.
Their standard copper plugs are #BKR5ES-11.

Dan K 07-05-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 

"nothermark" <nothermark@not.here> wrote in message
news:1cm8a25lcij1pktr41olnbi6irdra97mvi@4ax.com...
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


I bought 6 plugs at the dealer at $13 each at 60,000 miles, and put them in
my 2002 XG350. A week later I find that a suitable equilivent plug (still
platinum) is available for around $2.00 each at the auto parts store. I
bought a set and repalaced the front three (the easy three) and have been
driving that way for almost 30,000 miles now. I can't tell the difference.
I won't know for another 30,000 how they look compared to the expensive
ones, but I suspect they will look about the same. Check out your local
auto store before spending $80 on a set of plugs.



Dan K 07-05-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 

"nothermark" <nothermark@not.here> wrote in message
news:1cm8a25lcij1pktr41olnbi6irdra97mvi@4ax.com...
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


I bought 6 plugs at the dealer at $13 each at 60,000 miles, and put them in
my 2002 XG350. A week later I find that a suitable equilivent plug (still
platinum) is available for around $2.00 each at the auto parts store. I
bought a set and repalaced the front three (the easy three) and have been
driving that way for almost 30,000 miles now. I can't tell the difference.
I won't know for another 30,000 how they look compared to the expensive
ones, but I suspect they will look about the same. Check out your local
auto store before spending $80 on a set of plugs.



Dan K 07-05-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Sparkplugs
 

"nothermark" <nothermark@not.here> wrote in message
news:1cm8a25lcij1pktr41olnbi6irdra97mvi@4ax.com...
> any reccomendations for plugs for a 2006 Elantra?


I bought 6 plugs at the dealer at $13 each at 60,000 miles, and put them in
my 2002 XG350. A week later I find that a suitable equilivent plug (still
platinum) is available for around $2.00 each at the auto parts store. I
bought a set and repalaced the front three (the easy three) and have been
driving that way for almost 30,000 miles now. I can't tell the difference.
I won't know for another 30,000 how they look compared to the expensive
ones, but I suspect they will look about the same. Check out your local
auto store before spending $80 on a set of plugs.




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