Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:28 -0700, mike3 wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> sound.
>
> For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
> the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
> car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
> stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.
>
> The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
> able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
> it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
> like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
> would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
> correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
> was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
> final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
> in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
> was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
> can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
> want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
> the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
> there are far less interfering noises from other things.
>
> Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
> the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
> like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
> sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
> makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
> got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
> that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
> sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
> segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
> of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
> in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
> made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
> rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
> the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
> could get close to the source.
>
> File 1:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>
> File 2:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>
> File 3:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>
> What do you think?

Trying to listen to your car, but some idiot keeps spewing something about
red wine.

Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

Hi.

I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
sound.

For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.

The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
there are far less interfering noises from other things.

Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
could get close to the source.

File 1:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty

File 2:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy

File 3:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur

What do you think?

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi.
>
> I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> sound.
>

I tried to play both files several times and they will not play for me. The
damned site is cluttered with all kinds of Click Me junk that it becomes a
pain in the ass to even try. Mike - just take your car to a mechanic.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@windstream.net

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Jul 29, 7:49 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@windstream.net>
wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi.
>
> > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> > sound.
>
> I tried to play both files several times and they will not play for me. The
> damned site is cluttered with all kinds of Click Me junk that it becomes a
> pain in the ass to even try. Mike - just take your car to a mechanic.
>

Doesn't it have a "click to download" or something like that? Did you
right
click it and hit "save as"?

If you cannot get it to work on your computer, I could email you a
message
with the files attached. Can I do that?

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi.
>
> I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> sound.
>
>
I can hear it, but I don't have a clue as to what it is. Sounds like a
solenoid pulling in and letting go, but I don't know what would make that
kind of noise. AC clutch? A valve opening and closing?

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Jul 29, 8:15 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...> Hi.
>
> > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> > sound.
>
> I can hear it, but I don't have a clue as to what it is. Sounds like a
> solenoid pulling in and letting go, but I don't know what would make that
> kind of noise. AC clutch? A valve opening and closing?

There is no AC on the car.

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Jul 29, 4:24 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:28 -0700, mike3 wrote:
> > Hi.
>
> > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> > sound.
>
> > For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
> > the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
> > car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
> > stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.
>
> > The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
> > able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
> > it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
> > like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
> > would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
> > correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
> > was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
> > final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
> > in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
> > was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
> > can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
> > want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
> > the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
> > there are far less interfering noises from other things.
>
> > Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
> > the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
> > like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
> > sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
> > makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
> > got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
> > that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
> > sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
> > segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
> > of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
> > in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
> > made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
> > rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
> > the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
> > could get close to the source.
>
> > File 1:
> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>
> > File 2:
> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>
> > File 3:
> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>
> > What do you think?
>
> Trying to listen to your car, but some idiot keeps spewing something about
> red wine.

Are you too having trouble downloading it from the site? (Did you
saving
it to disk?) If so, could you suggest me a better file host for it?
And if it's
an ad you're getting, does it glitch and get caught in a loop? I don't
know,
I'm just asking, as it's aggravating: My first recording was crappy,
and now I
finally got a good one and nobody can download it!!! Argh! :(

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Jul 29, 9:26 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 29, 8:15 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>
> > "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com....> Hi.
>
> > > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> > > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago..
> > > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> > > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> > > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> > > sound.
>
> > I can hear it, but I don't have a clue as to what it is. Sounds likea
> > solenoid pulling in and letting go, but I don't know what would make that
> > kind of noise. AC clutch? A valve opening and closing?
>
> There is no AC on the car.

How could I determine if it was one of the other items on your list?

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

In article
<fccb192a-c814-451d-a04a-6c75ad6368de@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What do you think?

I know very little about cars. Nothing, really. But damn, I could swear
I've heard that click (and the immediately subsequent rattle-grind)
before.


Steve

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

mike3 wrote:

> File 1:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>
> File 2:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>
> File 3:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>
> What do you think?

It sounds like the piston labia have separated from their retainers, or
possibly you have a problem with your valve gear.

Take it to any decent mechanic with an ultrasonic noise spectrum
analyser. He will be able to measure the periodicity of the sound and
pinpoint the exact source of the noise.

--

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > I can hear it, but I don't have a clue as to what it is. Sounds like a
> > solenoid pulling in and letting go, but I don't know what would make
> > that
> > kind of noise. AC clutch? A valve opening and closing?
>
> There is no AC on the car.

How could I determine if it was one of the other items on your list?

************************************************** *****************
************************************************** *********

You have to listen to each component. I'm not familiar with what equipment
is on that engine, but some other cars had air pumps for pollution control
and the valves can get noisy. If we were playing "Guess the Sound" at a
party, I'd say it was the solenoid on the dishwasher drain valve.

Time to visit a mechanic.

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f1fbfc57-2786-46e2-ba2a-842072ea0cee@w41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...


Doesn't it have a "click to download" or something like that? Did you
right
click it and hit "save as"?

If you cannot get it to work on your computer, I could email you a
message
with the files attached. Can I do that?

************************************************** ****************************************

Clicking the wave file does nothing. Trying to save target indicates it's
going to save a com file from the service you use. Used both Mozilla and
IE.

Yeah - you can email the files to me. Address below is correct, except for
the obvious.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@windstream.net

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

mike3 wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> sound.
>
> For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
> the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
> car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
> stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.
>
> The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
> able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
> it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
> like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
> would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
> correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
> was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
> final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
> in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
> was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
> can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
> want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
> the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
> there are far less interfering noises from other things.
>
> Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
> the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
> like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
> sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
> makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
> got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
> that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
> sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
> segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
> of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
> in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
> made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
> rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
> the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
> could get close to the source.
>
> File 1:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>
> File 2:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>
> File 3:
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>
> What do you think?

The power steering pump on my Pontiac used to make that exact sound.

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Jul 30, 5:34 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@windstream.net>
wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f1fbfc57-2786-46e2-ba2a-842072ea0cee@w41g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Doesn't it have a "click to download" or something like that? Did you
> right
> click it and hit "save as"?
>
> If you cannot get it to work on your computer, I could email you a
> message
> with the files attached. Can I do that?
>
> ************************************************** ****************************************
>
> Clicking the wave file does nothing. Trying to save target indicates it's
> going to save a com file from the service you use. Used both Mozilla and
> IE.
>
> Yeah - you can email the files to me. Address below is correct, exceptfor
> the obvious.
>

I just sent an email now as of this posting.

Re: Strange Hyundai Car Noise UPDATE With Better Recording
 

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:26:38 -0700, mike3 wrote:

> On Jul 29, 4:24 pm, Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒã‚¯ <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:28 -0700, mike3 wrote:
>> > Hi.
>>
>> > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
>> > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
>> > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
>> > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
>> > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
>> > sound.
>>
>> > For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
>> > the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
>> > car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
>> > stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.
>>
>> > The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
>> > able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
>> > it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
>> > like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
>> > would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
>> > correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
>> > was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
>> > final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
>> > in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
>> > was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
>> > can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
>> > want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
>> > the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
>> > there are far less interfering noises from other things.
>>
>> > Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
>> > the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
>> > like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
>> > sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
>> > makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
>> > got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
>> > that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
>> > sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
>> > segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
>> > of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
>> > in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
>> > made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
>> > rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
>> > the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
>> > could get close to the source.
>>
>> > File 1:
>> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>>
>> > File 2:
>> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>>
>> > File 3:
>> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>>
>> > What do you think?
>>
>> Trying to listen to your car, but some idiot keeps spewing something about
>> red wine.
>
> Are you too having trouble downloading it from the site? (Did you
> saving
> it to disk?) If so, could you suggest me a better file host for it?
> And if it's
> an ad you're getting, does it glitch and get caught in a loop? I don't
> know,
> I'm just asking, as it's aggravating: My first recording was crappy,
> and now I
> finally got a good one and nobody can download it!!! Argh! :(


Relax, Max! I was tongue in cheek! There was a pop-up ad running in the
background! ;)

Unfortunately I can't tell what the noise is; someone mentioned a
solenoid, but can you give more detail, ie, where on the car/engine is it
coming from; it's doing it at idle, is it worse at speed/under loads?