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Vinix 12-02-2006 01:57 PM

TOD on Snow
 
Does anyone know which is the behaviour of the Torqe-On-Demand system on
snow-road? Is it good for driving on snow or it is better to buy a different
off-road car?
Thank you.

Vinix



Mike Marlow 12-02-2006 06:01 PM

Re: TOD on Snow
 

"Vinix" <grandaal(levaquesto)@libero.it> wrote in message
news:k0kch.64887$uv5.525485@twister1.libero.it...
> Does anyone know which is the behaviour of the Torqe-On-Demand system on
> snow-road? Is it good for driving on snow or it is better to buy a

different
> off-road car?
> Thank you.
>
> Vinix
>
>


Maybe you should try your question over again. You seem to be talking about
on road driving when you talk about TOD in "snow-road", and then you ask if
it is better to buy a different off-road car. What are you looking for -
"on-road" or off road?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Vinix 12-03-2006 07:14 AM

Re: TOD on Snow
 
Oh, you are right.
More precisely, I am going to buy a Hyundai Santa-Fe. I was wondering about
the TOD behaviour on snow covered normal roads. I heard different points of
view about this aspect, and some people suggested me to buy a really 4wd
car, not a suv.
Thanks.

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> "Vinix" <grandaal(levaquesto)@libero.it> wrote in message
> news:k0kch.64887$uv5.525485@twister1.libero.it...
>> Does anyone know which is the behaviour of the Torqe-On-Demand system on
>> snow-road? Is it good for driving on snow or it is better to buy a

> different
>> off-road car?
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Vinix
>>
>>

>
> Maybe you should try your question over again. You seem to be talking
> about
> on road driving when you talk about TOD in "snow-road", and then you ask
> if
> it is better to buy a different off-road car. What are you looking for -
> "on-road" or off road?
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>




Mike Marlow 12-03-2006 07:43 AM

Re: TOD on Snow
 

"Vinix" <grandaal(levaquesto)@libero.it> wrote in message
news:Tczch.65431$uv5.539277@twister1.libero.it...

> Oh, you are right.
> More precisely, I am going to buy a Hyundai Santa-Fe. I was wondering

about
> the TOD behaviour on snow covered normal roads. I heard different points

of
> view about this aspect, and some people suggested me to buy a really 4wd
> car, not a suv.
> Thanks.


Well, that begs a lot of questions. What kind of driving will you be doing?
What types of roads? Twisty mountain roads or urban driving? Will you be
simply commuting? How far?

For most people with just normal urban commuting needs, just about any two
wheel drive vehicle on the road today is really sufficient. Front wheel
drive or rear wheel drive makes no real difference in that setting. 4 wheel
drive or All Wheel Drive are really quite unecessary for those conditions.
Too often people talk about "needing" 4WD or AWD to handle occasional 4" of
snow. Hell, any two wheel drive vehicle with half worn tires will handle
that.

So... what that all boils down to is that if you're looking at 4WD or AWD
vehicles, buy what you want because if your use of the term "snow covered
normal roads" is in any way close to the average Northeast urban driving
conditions, you don't really *need* either, and should therefore get what
you *want*.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Eric G. 12-03-2006 11:52 AM

Re: TOD on Snow
 
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in
news:f3af5$4572c705$452895ad$24459@ALLTEL.NET:

>
> "Vinix" <grandaal(levaquesto)@libero.it> wrote in message
> news:Tczch.65431$uv5.539277@twister1.libero.it...
>
>> Oh, you are right.
>> More precisely, I am going to buy a Hyundai Santa-Fe. I was wondering

> about
>> the TOD behaviour on snow covered normal roads. I heard different
>> points

> of
>> view about this aspect, and some people suggested me to buy a really
>> 4wd car, not a suv.
>> Thanks.

>
> Well, that begs a lot of questions. What kind of driving will you be
> doing? What types of roads? Twisty mountain roads or urban driving?
> Will you be simply commuting? How far?
>
> For most people with just normal urban commuting needs, just about any
> two wheel drive vehicle on the road today is really sufficient. Front
> wheel drive or rear wheel drive makes no real difference in that
> setting. 4 wheel drive or All Wheel Drive are really quite unecessary
> for those conditions. Too often people talk about "needing" 4WD or AWD
> to handle occasional 4" of snow. Hell, any two wheel drive vehicle
> with half worn tires will handle that.
>
> So... what that all boils down to is that if you're looking at 4WD or
> AWD vehicles, buy what you want because if your use of the term "snow
> covered normal roads" is in any way close to the average Northeast
> urban driving conditions, you don't really *need* either, and should
> therefore get what you *want*.
>


Mike, I would have to guess that you failed to look at the OP's email
address. He is apparently in Italy, and since he is worried about snow,
I would have to assume Northern Italy at that.

If he lives anywhere near the Alps, my guess would be that REAL 4WD
would be required for many days in that part of the world. Todays AWD
drive vehcles perform admirably in the snow, but 4WD is absolutely
required for the real deep stuff, and as you mentioned, for getting
around in the mountains.

Eric


Mike Marlow 12-03-2006 07:23 PM

Re: TOD on Snow
 

"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns988E78CF52F0DXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...

>
> Mike, I would have to guess that you failed to look at the OP's email
> address. He is apparently in Italy, and since he is worried about snow,
> I would have to assume Northern Italy at that.
>
> If he lives anywhere near the Alps, my guess would be that REAL 4WD
> would be required for many days in that part of the world. Todays AWD
> drive vehcles perform admirably in the snow, but 4WD is absolutely
> required for the real deep stuff, and as you mentioned, for getting
> around in the mountains.
>


Bigger than life Eric - I missed that completely.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Vinix 12-09-2006 04:29 AM

Re: TOD on Snow
 
Wonderful, guys!!!!
In fact, my needs are really those depicted by Eric; I live in Rome, but
often I use to spend my holidays and week ends in the Alps or Appennini. I
like scuba diving in lake and river and often they are non located directly
near main roads, even if there are often good country/mountain roads to
reach them. I have no needs to pass river, or to climb hills or mountains
out of those roads. But anyway some people said to me that also in those
conditions I can not rely completely on the efficiency of the TOD
transmission, which seems to be good for normal roads and highways in case
of unexpected bad aderence.
Especially in case of snow, I would like not to be forced to set up tyre
chains again...
Thank you for the patience.

Grandaal

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
> news:Xns988E78CF52F0DXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
>
>>
>> Mike, I would have to guess that you failed to look at the OP's email
>> address. He is apparently in Italy, and since he is worried about snow,
>> I would have to assume Northern Italy at that.
>>
>> If he lives anywhere near the Alps, my guess would be that REAL 4WD
>> would be required for many days in that part of the world. Todays AWD
>> drive vehcles perform admirably in the snow, but 4WD is absolutely
>> required for the real deep stuff, and as you mentioned, for getting
>> around in the mountains.
>>

>
> Bigger than life Eric - I missed that completely.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>





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