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Don Allen 01-13-2010 11:09 PM

Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
I have a problem that's been getting worse for about the last 3 months
with our 2006 Elantra GLS automatic with only 30K miles. When I drive
off with a cold engine/tansmission, during the first several miles of
city driving, and only when stopped at a light with the transmission
in Drive and my foot on the brake, there's an apparent exhaust
"knocking" sound emanating from forward of the gear selector. I've
checked the exhaust system, and there doesn't seem to be any conflict
with any chassis members beneath the car (my first thought). It's
not an engine knock or piston slap, as I've already looked into this.

During the period of the noise progressively getting worse, I've also
noticed a change in the exhaust sound, especially on acceleration. It
sounds a bit "blatty," if you will - excuse the poor word choice -
almost like a muffler in the process of failing. But, this shouldn't
cause the knocking sound, as I would think a loose internal baffle
would create a knocking sound. The knocking sound could perhaps also
be construed as a pronounced rattle. For those who live in the snow
belt, the sound is very similar to an exhaust tip on the back of the
car knocking against ice build-up.

I've had a couple of thoughts, the first somewhat logical, and the
second, out-of-the-box:

1). The flex joint,

2). The rear engine mount (mounted to the transmission I believe)???

I had the 48K or 4 year service performed at the local Hyundai dealer
in December. The noise was present prior to taking it in, but they
didn't hear it as the engine/transmission was still warm when then
drove it into the shop for the work. I have noticed that the curb
idle speed is a bit lower than prior to the service, and this lower
idle speed exacerbates the knocking noise.

Any ideas?

Don Allen 01-13-2010 11:15 PM

Re: Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
Quick edit to my post:

"...as I would think a loose internal baffle would create a knocking
sound."

Should have read:

"... as I would think a loose internal baffle wouldn't create a
knocking sound."

Sorry --

Don

Don 01-16-2010 04:52 PM

Re: Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
Hyundaitech or others, any input on this? I'm going to take another
look tomorrow, and try to localize the source. I know what a bad flex
joint sounds like on Dodge Caravan, but not on an Elantra, so I'm only
guessing here.

Ed 01-17-2010 02:23 PM

Re: Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
On 1/16/2010 1:52 PM, Don wrote:
> Hyundaitech or others, any input on this? I'm going to take another
> look tomorrow, and try to localize the source. I know what a bad flex
> joint sounds like on Dodge Caravan, but not on an Elantra, so I'm only
> guessing here.

I would almost say it sounds like the noise my 01 elantra makes when
it's cold. But that is just the oil not reaching the top end yet, and
that goes away within a 30 seconds. I would suggest leaving the car
overnight with the dealer and tell them to leave it outside so it's nice
and cold in the morning. That way they can hear it for themselves
firsthand. Also you might try postin this over at www.elantraclub.com we
have a few techs in the club that may be able to help.


Don 01-17-2010 07:47 PM

Re: Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
On Jan 17, 1:23 pm, Ed <chzto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would almost say it sounds like the noise my 01 elantra makes when
> it's cold. But that is just the oil not reaching the top end yet, and
> that goes away within a 30 seconds. I would suggest leaving the car
> overnight with the dealer and tell them to leave it outside so it's nice
> and cold in the morning. That way they can hear it for themselves
> firsthand. Also you might try posting this over at www.elantraclub.comwe
> have a few techs in the club that may be able to help.


Thanks Ed. I will give that a try, before taking the car into the
dealer.


hyundaitech 01-24-2010 01:35 PM

Re: Warm-Up Period Exhaust Noise?
 
On Jan 16, 4:52 pm, Don <dsalle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hyundaitech or others, any input on this? I'm going to take another
> look tomorrow, and try to localize the source. I know what a bad flex
> joint sounds like on Dodge Caravan, but not on an Elantra, so I'm only
> guessing here.


Sorry about being late to the party here. The flex pipe and motor
mounts are potential causes, as would be perhaps a cracked exhaust
manifold.


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