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kilroybass@usa.com 11-12-2005 01:52 AM

where to get first oil change
 
2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
different oil change store?

where did you go for your first oil change?


Andy S 11-12-2005 07:18 AM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
><kilroybass@usa.com> wrote in message
>news:1131778338.842500.59870@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> 2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
> change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
> different oil change store?
>
> where did you go for your first oil change?
>

took ours in at 3000 or so miles.
took it to the dealer.


--
Andrew D. Sisson



Edward Hayes 11-12-2005 08:13 AM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
Recommend dealer so they get to know you as "their" customer. In
addition: you will get oem filters so if trouble occurs later. I tend
to use oem for the first 10,000 miles or so. In any even I'd stay away
from the Jiffy-lube type places always.



Brian Nystrom 11-12-2005 10:35 AM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
kilroybass@usa.com wrote:
> 2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
> change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
> different oil change store?
>
> where did you go for your first oil change?
>

Why not do it yourself? It takes all of 15-20 minutes.

irwell 11-12-2005 11:22 AM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
On 11 Nov 2005 22:52:18 -0800, kilroybass@usa.com wrote:

>2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
>change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
>different oil change store?
>
>where did you go for your first oil change?


The dealer, took mine in at 1000 miles, then again at 5000,
then did all the recommended services through the dealer.
A few more dollars but it does help with any warranty
problems that might show up later.
May help later with a resale, but doubt it.

Paradox 11-12-2005 08:08 PM

Re: where to get first oil change
 

"irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4j5cn1d8vqrb5v1u5ocqcl90rcjghlk22l@4ax.com...
> On 11 Nov 2005 22:52:18 -0800, kilroybass@usa.com wrote:
>
> >2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
> >change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
> >different oil change store?
> >
> >where did you go for your first oil change?

>
> The dealer, took mine in at 1000 miles, then again at 5000,
> then did all the recommended services through the dealer.
> A few more dollars but it does help with any warranty
> problems that might show up later.
> May help later with a resale, but doubt it.


Definately get most of your oil changes and other service done at the same
dealer, that way when you run into problems, they tend to want to take care
of you more. Expecially if your barely out of warranty and something major
goes wrong, if you have a strong service history, they are more likely to
"good will" the repairs. if you just go in when you have that problem, they
wont really care. happens all the time at the dealership I work at.



Brian Nystrom 11-14-2005 04:09 PM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
Paradox wrote:
> "irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4j5cn1d8vqrb5v1u5ocqcl90rcjghlk22l@4ax.com...
>
>>On 11 Nov 2005 22:52:18 -0800, kilroybass@usa.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
>>>change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
>>>different oil change store?
>>>
>>>where did you go for your first oil change?

>>
>>The dealer, took mine in at 1000 miles, then again at 5000,
>>then did all the recommended services through the dealer.
>>A few more dollars but it does help with any warranty
>>problems that might show up later.
>>May help later with a resale, but doubt it.

>
>
> Definately get most of your oil changes and other service done at the same
> dealer, that way when you run into problems, they tend to want to take care
> of you more. Expecially if your barely out of warranty and something major
> goes wrong, if you have a strong service history, they are more likely to
> "good will" the repairs. if you just go in when you have that problem, they
> wont really care. happens all the time at the dealership I work at.


If you bought the car there, they damn sure better care! Where you have
it serviced - or if you DIY - makes NO DIFFERENCE in the warranty as
long as you fill in the service dates in the maintenance log that came
with the car. If you follow the specified schedule, you're covered.
Keeping receipts is not a bad idea, but it's not required either. If any
dealer gives you grief about it, go right to Hyundai customer service.

My dealer was really good when I bought my Elantra last year. They knew
that I did most of my own work on my previous Hyundai (Excel) and he
told me right up front everything I needed to know about the warranty
and DIY work (I already knew, but I was impressed that they did it
anyway). It's important to know your rights when it comes to service and
warranty, so you know if/when a dealer is screwing with you. BTW, don't
let them tell you that you need to change the oil any more frequently
than every 7500 miles as specified in the maintenance log. That's all
that's required for the warranty. Some dealers will try to sell you
unnecessary oil changes every 3000 or 5000 miles, as it's a "cash cow"
for them.

irwell 11-14-2005 04:18 PM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:09:08 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:

>Paradox wrote:
>> "irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:4j5cn1d8vqrb5v1u5ocqcl90rcjghlk22l@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On 11 Nov 2005 22:52:18 -0800, kilroybass@usa.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
>>>>change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
>>>>different oil change store?
>>>>
>>>>where did you go for your first oil change?
>>>
>>>The dealer, took mine in at 1000 miles, then again at 5000,
>>>then did all the recommended services through the dealer.
>>>A few more dollars but it does help with any warranty
>>>problems that might show up later.
>>>May help later with a resale, but doubt it.

>>
>>
>> Definately get most of your oil changes and other service done at the same
>> dealer, that way when you run into problems, they tend to want to take care
>> of you more. Expecially if your barely out of warranty and something major
>> goes wrong, if you have a strong service history, they are more likely to
>> "good will" the repairs. if you just go in when you have that problem, they
>> wont really care. happens all the time at the dealership I work at.

>
>If you bought the car there, they damn sure better care! Where you have
>it serviced - or if you DIY - makes NO DIFFERENCE in the warranty as
>long as you fill in the service dates in the maintenance log that came
>with the car. If you follow the specified schedule, you're covered.
>Keeping receipts is not a bad idea, but it's not required either. If any
>dealer gives you grief about it, go right to Hyundai customer service.
>
>My dealer was really good when I bought my Elantra last year. They knew
>that I did most of my own work on my previous Hyundai (Excel) and he
>told me right up front everything I needed to know about the warranty
>and DIY work (I already knew, but I was impressed that they did it
>anyway). It's important to know your rights when it comes to service and
>warranty, so you know if/when a dealer is screwing with you. BTW, don't
>let them tell you that you need to change the oil any more frequently
>than every 7500 miles as specified in the maintenance log. That's all
>that's required for the warranty. Some dealers will try to sell you
>unnecessary oil changes every 3000 or 5000 miles, as it's a "cash cow"
>for them.


Some cash cow? What is it?, $40 tops?
Worth it get all that swarf and other engine debris out
of your new engine.

Brian Nystrom 11-15-2005 01:31 PM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
irwell wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:09:08 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Paradox wrote:
>>
>>>"irwell" <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4j5cn1d8vqrb5v1u5ocqcl90rcjghlk22l@4ax.com ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 11 Nov 2005 22:52:18 -0800, kilroybass@usa.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>2005 elantra. nearing 3000 miles, and I'm close to my first oil
>>>>>change. Should I go to the dealer for the oil change or go to a
>>>>>different oil change store?
>>>>>
>>>>>where did you go for your first oil change?
>>>>
>>>>The dealer, took mine in at 1000 miles, then again at 5000,
>>>>then did all the recommended services through the dealer.
>>>>A few more dollars but it does help with any warranty
>>>>problems that might show up later.
>>>>May help later with a resale, but doubt it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Definately get most of your oil changes and other service done at the same
>>>dealer, that way when you run into problems, they tend to want to take care
>>>of you more. Expecially if your barely out of warranty and something major
>>>goes wrong, if you have a strong service history, they are more likely to
>>>"good will" the repairs. if you just go in when you have that problem, they
>>>wont really care. happens all the time at the dealership I work at.

>>
>>If you bought the car there, they damn sure better care! Where you have
>>it serviced - or if you DIY - makes NO DIFFERENCE in the warranty as
>>long as you fill in the service dates in the maintenance log that came
>>with the car. If you follow the specified schedule, you're covered.
>>Keeping receipts is not a bad idea, but it's not required either. If any
>>dealer gives you grief about it, go right to Hyundai customer service.
>>
>>My dealer was really good when I bought my Elantra last year. They knew
>>that I did most of my own work on my previous Hyundai (Excel) and he
>>told me right up front everything I needed to know about the warranty
>>and DIY work (I already knew, but I was impressed that they did it
>>anyway). It's important to know your rights when it comes to service and
>>warranty, so you know if/when a dealer is screwing with you. BTW, don't
>>let them tell you that you need to change the oil any more frequently
>>than every 7500 miles as specified in the maintenance log. That's all
>>that's required for the warranty. Some dealers will try to sell you
>>unnecessary oil changes every 3000 or 5000 miles, as it's a "cash cow"
>>for them.

>
>
> Some cash cow? What is it?, $40 tops?
> Worth it get all that swarf and other engine debris out
> of your new engine.


The first recommended oil change is at 3750 miles. I agree that changing
it at say 1000 mile and again at 3750 and 7500 is not a bad idea. Once
you get to 7500, you only need to change it every 7500 as specified in
the maintenance log. What I was getting at above is that some
unscrupulous dealers will lie to customers and tell them that they MUST
change their oil more frequently than the specified service interval
in order to maintain the warranty. It's just a scam for the dealer to
make a few extra bucks (oil changes are a high profit item). Changing it
more frequently than necessary is nothing but a waste of money and
natural resources, and it's NOT necessary to maintain the warranty.

bo peep 11-16-2005 03:35 PM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
<<I'd stay away from the Jiffy-lube type places always>>

Why is that? I've been taking my vehicles there since 1986. All 3 have
120,000+ miles and have never needed any engine work other than
tuneups. All 3 still run fine, and one of them is 20 years old. The
other two are 13 and 8 years old.

John Cowart


Brian Nystrom 11-19-2005 04:25 AM

Re: where to get first oil change
 
bo peep wrote:
> <<I'd stay away from the Jiffy-lube type places always>>
>
> Why is that? I've been taking my vehicles there since 1986. All 3 have
> 120,000+ miles and have never needed any engine work other than
> tuneups. All 3 still run fine, and one of them is 20 years old. The
> other two are 13 and 8 years old.
>

The issue is one of quality of work. Some of these places are OK, but
some are careless and hire poor quality workers, use junk filters, etc.
I'd rather change my own oil, so I KNOW how it was done.



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