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jim 07-16-2008 06:41 PM

Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
The windshield washer on my wife's 07 Santa Fe quit working.

I checked the fluid and although it was down a little, I filled it up. No
help.

Read window fluid is just a short stream, not continuous, like with my 07
Santa Fe.

I think both are fed from the same resevoir, right?

I hear the pump motor running when trying the washer but nothing.

I'm 45 miles from nearest dealer so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jim



Edwin Pawlowski 07-16-2008 09:28 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 

"jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:r5adnQxw8sCU5OPVnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> The windshield washer on my wife's 07 Santa Fe quit working.
>
> I checked the fluid and although it was down a little, I filled it up. No
> help.
>
> Read window fluid is just a short stream, not continuous, like with my 07
> Santa Fe.
>
> I think both are fed from the same resevoir, right?



No, your wife's car has its own resevoir and your car has one of its own.



>
> I'm 45 miles from nearest dealer so any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,


So, you need a ride home? We have to know where you live in order to help
like that.



hyundaitech 07-16-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
You'll need to check for a pinched/blocked/cut/fallen off hose. Have an
assistant operate the washer while you check. If it's coming out
somewhere, that should be apparent very soon. If not, pop a hose off the
nozzle and see if fluid comes out.

I also saw a case or two where some gunk clogged the inlet screen in the
pump.

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jim 07-16-2008 10:25 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
Thanks HT, will do that tomorrow AM. There is no leakage that I saw, so
will pop off a hose. Is it just a matter of popping it off really or is
there something holding it on?

Both washers fed from same container?

Jim

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> You'll need to check for a pinched/blocked/cut/fallen off hose. Have an
> assistant operate the washer while you check. If it's coming out
> somewhere, that should be apparent very soon. If not, pop a hose off the
> nozzle and see if fluid comes out.
>
> I also saw a case or two where some gunk clogged the inlet screen in the
> pump.
>
> --
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> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>
>




jim 07-16-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
That is so funny Edwin. I cannot imagine how you take time off from Leno's
show to grace us with your humor.

I mean I was ROTFLMAO.

HAHAHAHA.

Jim

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:r5adnQxw8sCU5OPVnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>> The windshield washer on my wife's 07 Santa Fe quit working.
>>
>> I checked the fluid and although it was down a little, I filled it up.
>> No help.
>>
>> Read window fluid is just a short stream, not continuous, like with my
>> 07 Santa Fe.
>>
>> I think both are fed from the same resevoir, right?

>
>
> No, your wife's car has its own resevoir and your car has one of its own.
>
>
>
>>
>> I'm 45 miles from nearest dealer so any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,

>
> So, you need a ride home? We have to know where you live in order to help
> like that.
>




jim 07-17-2008 11:46 AM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
As I said in my other reply, there is no leakage.

I looked at trying to get at the hoses to pop off but I cannot see any way
to get to them. Everything seems to be sealed off prohibiting me from
getting to the container holding the fluid. Can you help here?

Thanks,

Jim

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
news:b50d805f4103ea8372a59240494555de@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> You'll need to check for a pinched/blocked/cut/fallen off hose. Have an
> assistant operate the washer while you check. If it's coming out
> somewhere, that should be apparent very soon. If not, pop a hose off the
> nozzle and see if fluid comes out.
>
> I also saw a case or two where some gunk clogged the inlet screen in the
> pump.
>
> --
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> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>
>




hyundaitech 07-17-2008 09:02 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
off.

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jim 07-18-2008 07:21 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe goes
down into the resevoir.

http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/

I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.

Thanks,

Jim

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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>I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
> off.
>
> --
> Message posted using
> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>
>




Larry 07-18-2008 08:02 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 

"jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe goes
down into the resevoir.

http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/

I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.

Thanks,

Jim

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
> off.
>
> --
> Message posted using
> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>
>

Hi Jim,

I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
reservoir tank. Try this:

Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to the
hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that has
covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as you
will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will get
back on the filter quite quickly.

Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will likely
see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the reservoir
about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off the
walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no more
scum come out.

Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are prone
to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused this
problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
months later and no further problems.

Larry





jim 07-18-2008 10:44 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 

"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
news:48812f05$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>
> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe
> goes
> down into the resevoir.
>
> http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/
>
> I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>>I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
>> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
>> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
>> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
>> off.
>>
>> --
>> Message posted using
>> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
>> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>>
>>

> Hi Jim,
>
> I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
> reservoir tank. Try this:
>
> Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to the
> hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that has
> covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as you
> will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will get
> back on the filter quite quickly.
>
> Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will
> likely
> see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the reservoir
> about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off the
> walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no
> more
> scum come out.
>
> Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are
> prone
> to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused this
> problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
> before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
> months later and no further problems.
>
> Larry
>
>
>

Thanks for the info Larry. I have no idea what brand is being used. It is
all taken care of when I/She gets the oil and filter changed. The last time
at a Hyundai dealer in Ft. Myers Fl.

I would love to take the hose off but the current problem I have is locating
where to get to the the tee. As far as I can tell there is no access area
for that. I can't even see where the hoses go to the outlets in front of
the windshield.

I suppose if I can get the hoses off and they aren't filled with the scum, I
can take my pressure washer to the reservoir, but don't want to do that
until I get something opened up for it to drain.

Are you talking about an 07 Santa Fe also? If so, I'd sure like to know how
to get to the hose/reservoir connection.

Thanks,

Jim
>




Larry 07-19-2008 12:57 AM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 

"jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
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"Larry" <reply@group.com> wrote in message
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>
> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe
> goes
> down into the resevoir.
>
> http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/
>
> I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>>I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
>> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
>> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
>> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
>> off.
>>
>> --
>> Message posted using
>> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
>> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>>
>>

> Hi Jim,
>
> I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
> reservoir tank. Try this:
>
> Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to the
> hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that has
> covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as you
> will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will get
> back on the filter quite quickly.
>
> Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will
> likely
> see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the reservoir
> about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off the
> walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no
> more
> scum come out.
>
> Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are
> prone
> to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused this
> problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
> before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
> months later and no further problems.
>
> Larry
>
>
>

Thanks for the info Larry. I have no idea what brand is being used. It is
all taken care of when I/She gets the oil and filter changed. The last time
at a Hyundai dealer in Ft. Myers Fl.

I would love to take the hose off but the current problem I have is locating
where to get to the the tee. As far as I can tell there is no access area
for that. I can't even see where the hoses go to the outlets in front of
the windshield.

I suppose if I can get the hoses off and they aren't filled with the scum, I
can take my pressure washer to the reservoir, but don't want to do that
until I get something opened up for it to drain.

Are you talking about an 07 Santa Fe also? If so, I'd sure like to know how
to get to the hose/reservoir connection.

Thanks,

Jim
>

I had the problem on a Hyundai Accent. The tee for the hose was mounted on
the underside of the hood on the same side as the washer reservoir. My car
has the nozzles that squirt fluid mounted on the hood. Sounds like yours
are mounted behind the hood.

The reason I did the job the way I did was that the reservoir looked very
difficult to remove and check/clean the inside of it. Decided that blasting
it off with hose pressure and collect it with the siphon was the easiest.

Cheers,
Larry





B.C. MALLAM 07-19-2008 09:01 AM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
I have been using this home made windshield cleaner in the washer for years
and never had any problems, it won't freeze and it's cheap.

1/2 CUP (4oz) OF SUDSY AMMONIA
1 PINT OF 99% RUBBING ALCOHOL
1 TEASPOON OF LIQUID DISHWASHING SOAP
ENOUGH WATER TO MAKE A GAL.


On 7/18/08 7:02 PM, in article
48812f05$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "Larry" <reply@group.com>
wrote:

>
> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
> news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe goes
> down into the resevoir.
>
> http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/
>
> I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
> news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
>> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off from
>> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
>> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
>> off.
>>
>> --
>> Message posted using
>> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
>> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>>
>>

> Hi Jim,
>
> I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
> reservoir tank. Try this:
>
> Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to the
> hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that has
> covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as you
> will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will get
> back on the filter quite quickly.
>
> Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will likely
> see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the reservoir
> about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off the
> walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no more
> scum come out.
>
> Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are prone
> to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused this
> problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
> before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
> months later and no further problems.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
>


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

jim 07-19-2008 11:31 AM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
Thanks, I printed off your recipe for when I get my situation cleared up.

Jim

"B.C. MALLAM" <bcmallam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:C4A74FC3.C1974%bcmallam@gmail.com...
>I have been using this home made windshield cleaner in the washer for years
> and never had any problems, it won't freeze and it's cheap.
>
> 1/2 CUP (4oz) OF SUDSY AMMONIA
> 1 PINT OF 99% RUBBING ALCOHOL
> 1 TEASPOON OF LIQUID DISHWASHING SOAP
> ENOUGH WATER TO MAKE A GAL.
>
>
> On 7/18/08 7:02 PM, in article
> 48812f05$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "Larry" <reply@group.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
>> news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>> I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe
>> goes
>> down into the resevoir.
>>
>> http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/
>>
>> I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
>> news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>>> I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming the
>>> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off
>>> from
>>> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the hose
>>> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
>>> off.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Message posted using
>>> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
>>> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>>>
>>>

>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
>> reservoir tank. Try this:
>>
>> Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to
>> the
>> hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that
>> has
>> covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as
>> you
>> will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will
>> get
>> back on the filter quite quickly.
>>
>> Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will
>> likely
>> see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the
>> reservoir
>> about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off the
>> walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no
>> more
>> scum come out.
>>
>> Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are
>> prone
>> to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused this
>> problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
>> before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
>> months later and no further problems.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **




hyundaitech 07-19-2008 09:48 PM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
If you want to access the reservoir, you'll need to partially remove the
front portion of the fender liner.

But don't start there. Start at the nozzles-- they'll be easier to get
to, and they could be clogged, causing your issue. Presuming the nozzles
are mounted on your hood, you should be able to see where the hoses attach
on the underside of the hood. If you disconnect a hose and fluid comes out
freely when the washer is operated, the you can presume the nozzles are
clogged. If not, the restriction is likely in the pump inlet.

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jim 09-05-2008 08:42 AM

Re: Windshield Washer - 2007 Santa Fe
 
Finally got the washer reservoir and motor replaced yesterday and it was
done under warranty.

May be some of the crud that blocked the fluid is still in the nozzles, as
the passengers side nozzle only streams part way up the windshield.

Service manager said give it a little time (still sorta performs its
intended function) and if it doesn;t clear then they will replace the nozzle
as the stream is not adjustable.

I wonder if that is true that the stream is not adjustable???????????????

Jim


"jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:WtqdnU_4YLEylR_VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> Thanks, I printed off your recipe for when I get my situation cleared up.
>
> Jim
>
> "B.C. MALLAM" <bcmallam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C4A74FC3.C1974%bcmallam@gmail.com...
>>I have been using this home made windshield cleaner in the washer for
>>years
>> and never had any problems, it won't freeze and it's cheap.
>>
>> 1/2 CUP (4oz) OF SUDSY AMMONIA
>> 1 PINT OF 99% RUBBING ALCOHOL
>> 1 TEASPOON OF LIQUID DISHWASHING SOAP
>> ENOUGH WATER TO MAKE A GAL.
>>
>>
>> On 7/18/08 7:02 PM, in article
>> 48812f05$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au, "Larry" <reply@group.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
>>> news:vpSdnQ2UIc3ouBzVnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>>> I've posted 3 pictures I took of the extension pipe area where the pipe
>>> goes
>>> down into the resevoir.
>>>
>>> http://s328.photobucket.com/albums/l343/jwhite18816/
>>>
>>> I'm unable to see anyway to get to the main resevoir.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> "hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
>>> news:d2ad292044966969e5a5e5b0bccae28d@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>>>> I don't have one of these around to look at right now, but presuming
>>>> the
>>>> nozzles are on top of the hood, you should be able to pop a hose off
>>>> from
>>>> one of the nozzles from under the hood or the tee which divides the
>>>> hose
>>>> into two sections, one going to each nozzle. The hose should just pull
>>>> off.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Message posted using
>>>> http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.hyundai/
>>>> More information at http://www.talkaboutautos.com/faq.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> I had a very similar problem that was caused by scummy pieces in the
>>> reservoir tank. Try this:
>>>
>>> Take off a hose under the hood where the washer connects to the tee to
>>> the
>>> hood nozzles, and blow back through the hose. If it is this scum that
>>> has
>>> covered the filter screen on the pump, it should work at this point as
>>> you
>>> will have blown it off. This is only a temporary fix as the scum will
>>> get
>>> back on the filter quite quickly.
>>>
>>> Use a siphon to siphon all the fluid out of the reservoir - you will
>>> likely
>>> see some of this scum I am referring to. I had to flush out the
>>> reservoir
>>> about 6 times with a garden hose on full pressure to get the scum off
>>> the
>>> walls of the reservoir. Siphon out the water each time until you see no
>>> more
>>> scum come out.
>>>
>>> Change your windshield washer soap to another brand. Some brands are
>>> prone
>>> to this apparently. I can't remember what the brand was that caused
>>> this
>>> problem on mine as I threw it out. I fought this problem for 6 months
>>> before I finally fixed it by doing this procedure and it's now about 8
>>> months later and no further problems.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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