89 Acura Legend VS. 94 Civic SI
 

So, the Legend is auto and completly stock as of now, my friend got his 94 civic si and it went down, the only time he was ahead of me was after he shifted to second and the auto had not yet reached rpms to shift, once it shifted up, I was gone and he was left behind. I love Honda V6's, oh and civic was stock other than ram air and fuel pressure regulator, so pretty much a stock race. still fun for the new legend, but we had a nice clear country road to race on.

fuel pressure regulator??

for what???

Auto? time to sell and get stick.

regulator was on the civic, and yes the legend will go at some point for serious project car, come on, I work for Honda, the legend is a winter vehicle. I have summer plans. but the race was just for shits

Ahhhh it's all comming to me!

Care to share some of those summer plans? :salook:

short ram is different then ram air btw.

yeah, I don't mind sharing plans but will post later tonight when I have more time.

and to "stealthZ", I know about intakes, but if you know then you would know that it doesn't matter what intake you have unless you have a cold air, its the only one that really adds anything to your car, or are you one of those guys that thinks you can get 10 or more HP just from an intake.

Thats awesome nothing better then 2, 16 second cars doing battle.

Actually cold air intakes dont give that much power either. No intake does unless your car is running mad power, then you might be able to notice a difference.
In my opinion, best intake is the comptech icebox style.

yeah, thats what I was saying, it doesn't matter what type of intake, on stock, doesn't make any difference, and 2 16sec cars are fun if thats all you have out right now.

aparently you DONT, and you just proved it. first of all, ram air doesnt just by puting a hood scoop on your car and calling it ram air. second, i know the diff between a wai and a cai and your "but if you know then you would know that it doesn't matter what intake you have unless you have a cold air," proves that you have no knowledge except what you learn on jdmcivic.com. short ram and cold air both proved the same amount of hp with maybe 1hp diff between the two, and thats not even 1hp to the wheels. short air, unlike cai, has benefits such as shorter path and less turns which means higher velocity. yes it pulls air from the engine bay, but when youre driving, do you really think the air is stationary, therefor the air isnt that much warmer then what you get from a "cold" air intake. the cai has a longer tube which the air has a longer path to travel and also heats up while travelling in the tube, as there is more surface area. you also pick up heat from the roads on a hot day aswell. there is no real benefit between the two, and if you like to think otherwise, congrats, and read up on something. you have 2 choices, you can buy a short ram if you want the tiny gain an intake provides, or you can get a cai for the same gains, but the "street cred" and being able to say, "bro, i have a cold air, its sick." either way, they are both the same.

with that being said, take your, "its the only one that really adds anything to your car," lmao, ya right, you talk mad and then post this, you must be very knowledgeable, and, "you one of those guys that thinks you can get 10 or more HP just from an intake." and gtfo. and i dont wanna hear about how youre a honda tech and bla blah blah. working at the dealership driving the cars in and out of the lot and doing the occasional oil change and tire rotation doesnt make you a tech.

Calm down guys, why fight over intakes? Its a tube with a filter on it. All you need to understand is that an intake by itself is not a major power adder, but its part of a crucial foundation that must be upgraded when modding your car.

CAI revolves around a very good idea of supplying the engine with cold air. Unfortunatly they dont do it very efficiently. In addition, the length of the cold air tube means it takes longer for air to reach your engine.

Thats why I said the compteh icebox style intakes are the best. I made my own custom version of it. It has a tube extended from the throttle body, to an airbox, in which there is a cone filter. So in a sense it acts like a short ram with a heatshield. Then there is a second tube running to the bottom of the airbox to the bumper. That tube sucks in cold air from the enviroment. And to finish it off the whole piece is coated with ceramic to repel heat.

The theory behind it I guess would be that you get the instant response of a SRI, but with the ability to draw in cold air. And the ceramic ensures it stays as cold as possible.

And yet, on its own, there is not much of a difference, because an intake is a supporting mod.

I'm pretty sure people who get cai dont do it for street cred its done for better performance than short rams...

If your just angry they don't make good intakes for your car try to make your own or talk to someone who know's how.

did you not read a single word? :retard:

i bet you have an expensive jdm cai and a chip that give you roughly 50hp to the wheels.

LOL you just kept on rambling.. from what I understood a cold air isn't that much more efficient?? Right....

I own a domestic....

You own a cavy right?
What do you have done to this beast!

Maybe he has nothing done. Maybe he's just a better driver. But I guess it wouldn't matter with the shitty drag style racing. Drag racing is for handicapped people who can't turn the steering wheel. If your car can't perform in all departments, then go home.

Damn strait! going fast is sweet, but if you can't handle the corners then whats the use.

oh, and in response to " and i dont wanna hear about how youre a honda tech and bla blah blah. working at the dealership driving the cars in and out of the lot and doing the occasional oil change and tire rotation doesnt make you a tech."
When did I ever bring my occupation into this, and whats with disin' where I work, you don't even know what I do at Honda, and if I only did the occational oil change and rotation my name would be Honda Lube guy, But its Honda Tech.
Why don't you grow up and find something else to do other than bash on people who don't see thing the way you do, you think your right and where wrong for seeing things differently. your starting arguements about intakes and weights of cars (in other threads). you know what thats called, immaturity.

you have got to be kidding me, look what you in said to me..
"and to "stealthZ", I know about intakes, but if you know then you would know that it doesn't matter what intake you have unless you have a cold air, its the only one that really adds anything to your car, or are you one of those guys that thinks you can get 10 or more HP just from an intake."
if you can dish it, learn to take it and stop crying.

man, go back and read my original post, then yours, then mine again. i told you the diff b/w cai and sri, the you make a brilliant post saying...
"I'm pretty sure people who get cai dont do it for street cred its done for better performance than short rams...

If your just angry they don't make good intakes for your car try to make your own or talk to someone who know's how."

get a life.

yeah, I'm crying, thats it, knob, I was saying that I'm done bickering about pety bullshit like intakes, and all you do is bash other people and their opinions, like where did I bring in Jobs and where I work, you had nothing else so you bashed on where I work and said that I'm not a mechanic, that was completely off topic and you just wanted to bash on me more. and you told me I couldn't take opinions. you really do need to grow up! :wt:

white trash? lmao, ok.

cavs suck, no contest to the civic or legend, cav owners are all gay, as represented by stealthZ

:wt: ya stealthz rules honda tech u suck as i said in the previous forum ur not a honda tech u work and mr.lube doing oil changes or filling up washer fluid dont u..lol...LOSER!! :wt: :wt:

actually hes an apprentice at Cobourg Honda, which is probly more impressive of an occupation than you have

holy can you people stop the shitting for once. Talk about cars.

I was surprised that an 89 legend can beat an si... maybe he was a bad stick driver. also what engine does the legend has? 3.0 v6 ? how much hp

his legend has a 2.7l v6 at round 160hp, the guy in the civic is a fairly decent driver

wow. interesting. I would think that civic has a much better chance but i guess not

you thought wrong. the si are heaps, but no one seems to realize that they have no power whatsoever (not like the top of the line has any either, but ill save that for another thread).

^ Have you actually driven a Civic Si?

Everyone shutup, for once cavy is correct. There will be next to no difference between your standard off the shelf open filter short ram intake and cold air intake. The only way to make one of the other more efficient is having a properly designed airbox to enclose the filter. But really, an intake filter won't do much of anything on an N/A engine...It will vastly improve engine performance on a FI engine setup though, refer to sig pic below!

i thought i knew nothing...nothing at all...

You don't.

You must have been busy on google.

yes...thats exactly where i was :rolleyes:

ps. funny how this thread has been here for a while now, and youve never posted, then all of a sudden you post after i do. i gues you have nothing better to do then follow my posts trying to prove me wrong; which i may add youve never actually done. youve tried by stating that i dont know things, but havent provided any proof by any posts that would lead to believe that.