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ekk20 10-03-2007 06:50 PM

Rotary engine
 
Hi, a friend of mine told me that rotary engines break down easily and are very pricey to fix, are these facts true?

thanks!

Gonads 10-03-2007 08:45 PM

maybe...
supposedly the apex seals, or something like that, go after 120 thousand clicks. i dont know if this is true, but thats wha i've heard.

j_man1100 10-03-2007 10:25 PM

idiots.. A rotary is no more difficult or expensive to rebuild than a regular piston engine. You need a person who knows how to rebuild them is all. If you get a rubild by someone who has no experience with a rotary they will probably botch it. I currently have my second rx7 and picking up my third. Sold the first one running strong at 235xxxkm. Second one is running great with 150xxxkm. These were both naturally aspirated cars and they are not overly expensive to maintain. I do not recommend a rotary as a first and primary car, since they are hard on gas and kind of rust prone. If its a summer fun car, go for it! I love mine. I bought it dirt cheap, put breaks, fuel lines and a MOP and it passed safety and e-test. Loads of fun. If you're handy around a car I can't think of a more fun easy to drive sports car for the money.

ekk20 10-04-2007 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by j_man1100 (Post 230907)
idiots.. A rotary is no more difficult or expensive to rebuild than a regular piston engine. You need a person who knows how to rebuild them is all. If you get a rubild by someone who has no experience with a rotary they will probably botch it. I currently have my second rx7 and picking up my third. Sold the first one running strong at 235xxxkm. Second one is running great with 150xxxkm. These were both naturally aspirated cars and they are not overly expensive to maintain. I do not recommend a rotary as a first and primary car, since they are hard on gas and kind of rust prone. If its a summer fun car, go for it! I love mine. I bought it dirt cheap, put breaks, fuel lines and a MOP and it passed safety and e-test. Loads of fun. If you're handy around a car I can't think of a more fun easy to drive sports car for the money.


how hard is the rx7 on gas? cause it'll be my primary car actually.

Kuztom Freak 10-05-2007 04:21 AM

I had an RX-7 years ago and it was awesome on gas, even when I beat on it. 25-30L lasted me a week almost (M-F driving). I hated the choke, esp in winter. If ya didnt get mine just right the first time and it stalled before being warmed up - yer fukked for the day. That was my biggest issue with that toaster sized aluminum motor, it took forever to warm up and give out heat. I was usually at my destination just as the cab was getting warm. But I fukken loved that car, just dont over push in the corner (like any car)

JIMMY54 10-05-2007 01:28 PM

once you understand how to work on it, It's easier than working on a piston motor.

I own 2 rx7s and I wouldn't go back.

j_man1100 10-09-2007 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by ekk20 (Post 230970)
how hard is the rx7 on gas? cause it'll be my primary car actually.

Its not terrible. With a good tune up and all regular maintenance done, i get an average of 620km to about 60L. I can get more on the highway, but way less stop and go with a heavy foot. You drive like a granny its easy to get decent mileage, drive it like a sports car, it goes down quick.

chris7777777 12-02-2007 02:05 PM

TURBO rotaries will not last as long as an N/A.....but if you take care of it it will treat you well. Sometimes the key is to do a rebuilt before your seals let go. Recommendationof re-building after 120,000 km is a good benchmark to go by.....provided you havent beaten it, or done a bad tune.

You run too lean on the rotary, and kill it.......and it wont last you 10km..LOL.



Originally Posted by j_man1100 (Post 230907)
idiots.. A rotary is no more difficult or expensive to rebuild than a regular piston engine. You need a person who knows how to rebuild them is all. If you get a rubild by someone who has no experience with a rotary they will probably botch it. I currently have my second rx7 and picking up my third. Sold the first one running strong at 235xxxkm. Second one is running great with 150xxxkm. These were both naturally aspirated cars and they are not overly expensive to maintain. I do not recommend a rotary as a first and primary car, since they are hard on gas and kind of rust prone. If its a summer fun car, go for it! I love mine. I bought it dirt cheap, put breaks, fuel lines and a MOP and it passed safety and e-test. Loads of fun. If you're handy around a car I can't think of a more fun easy to drive sports car for the money.


chris7777777 12-02-2007 02:07 PM

Gas is not great on the 3rd gen.........but that is not what you bought the car for.
I take very good care of my car, and don't beat the crap out of her......compare it burning fuel to that of a V8.

nwmrkt 12-12-2007 11:37 PM

what specif shops around here CAN specilize and know about rotaries?

j_man1100 12-13-2007 07:26 PM

There are two good shops in Ontario that come to mind,
Jim at Rotary dynamics
Rotary Dynamics Remanufactured Rotary Engines
And Joe at RPM
RPM Motorsports - Import Performance Specialists

julilyn 03-17-2008 07:09 PM

1985 Rx7
 
I just purchased a 1985 RX7 ... any tips anyone can give me??...

julilyn 03-17-2008 07:10 PM

NVM i see someone already posted that!!!

Default User 03-17-2008 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by nwmrkt (Post 242553)
what specif shops around here CAN specilize and know about rotaries?

is SABER Performance still around?
They used to be Scarborough - but heard they moved out to Sauga.
Owner had a crazy go-fast-quick RX7.
Not sure if the shop is still around - he's been busy with CSCS

JIMMY54 03-28-2008 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by julilyn (Post 381549)
I just purchased a 1985 RX7 ... any tips anyone can give me??...

If you have any questions about your rx7, just pm me.

Or check out the rx7club.com website, lots of info there....

Onikazawa 05-21-2008 10:29 AM

if its a second gen, and you dont know how to fix the motor, then buy a new one, they dont run that much in costs.

gr8gzu 07-17-2008 03:14 PM

A big problem is flooding the engine. If you know what not to do, it should never happen to you..but if it happens it can be costly.

JIMMY54 07-28-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by gr8gzu (Post 429213)
A big problem is flooding the engine. If you know what not to do, it should never happen to you..but if it happens it can be costly.

you could pull the fuel pump fuse and crank the motor to clear itself out, the reinstall fuse and your done...

Or just hook up a fuel pump kill switch and use that.

mattyp747 07-31-2008 06:58 AM

everytime i see this sort of topic it just makes me laugh.

Rotaries ARE NOT unreliable, i repeat rotaries ARE NO unreliable.

If you thrash your rotary, do burnouts, dont check the oil, and generally dont look after it then yes they will become reliable. If you actually check the oil every 1000km, get it services and tuned every 5000km and dont drive like an idiot your rotary will last just as long as any other car.

i have owned my FC for 5 years, done around 60,000kms and never had 1 issue with it, its the most reliable car i have ever owned.

:smilie_da
:smilie_da

Onikazawa 08-27-2008 03:37 PM

true say man!

rotaryrocket 08-27-2008 06:32 PM

Rotaries seems to be unreliable only if you don't own one.
If more people have/had one, we can change the "fact" that rotaries are unreliable.

I have yet to own a FD, but I love my FC's, best bang for buck for a sports car in the 2nd gen price range. I couldn't find another car with a better balanced chassis, better output, and having the right wheels driving for a better price.

Best part was, if it does pop, a replacement engine is relatively cheap compared to all popular swaps. Gas consumption is on par with boosted piston engines with similar output. No complaints there.

Lastly, I'd like to recommend getting rotary work and advice at the following shops that actually helped me instead of other rotary shops that seems to get their solutions/repairs from a magic 8-ball.

RPM MOTORSPORTS - Joe
CANJAM AUTO - Stewart or Richard
MAZDEES - Dave

mattyp747 08-28-2008 04:38 AM

yup so true - make sure you have a good workshop for you rotary as its easy for people to bugger the car up when they dont know what they are doing.


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