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Old Mar 5, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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red is diplomatic plate in 100 percent sure of it, and basically they never get pulled over, i was working at the airport for a ground handling company handlex and aerofolt (russian airline) was parkd at a gate offloading passengers and out of nowhere this dodge caravan with red plates dressed in civilian clothes pulled up right next to the plane and parked hortly after and man come off th gate ( irside) and sat into the van from the plan with him was a bag that said classified on it. i asked my manager what the hel was happening and he informed me that it was a russian diplomat from the canadian russian embassy comming from russia. i guess if they are allowed to to drive airside with o questions asked they are basically allowed to do w.e they want. ohh and they had mad security standing around the plane. (catsa security)
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they will still be arrested.


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Well, not quite....

Under articles 29, 31, and 37 of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, to which Canada is a signatory, a member of a diplomatic mission and his or her immediate family are generally immune from arrest, detention, criminal, civil, or administrative sanctions.

Article 32 permits the diplomat's home nation to waive that immunity if so requested by the host country, but this rarely ever happens. In the case of the Russian diplomatic who drove impaired and killed a child in Ottawa a few years back, local police could do nothing to bring the diplomat to trial or even legally keep him from driving.

Article 41 stipulates that there is a duty for all diplomatic staff to respect the local laws of their host country, but there are no real penalties that can be applied against them for failing to do so.

The only thing the Canadian government can do is declare a member of a diplomatic mission persona non grata under Article 9 and demand that diplomat's recall from Canadian territory. That's what they did with the Russian diplomat, who went home in disgrace and ended up facing trial there for his impaired driving causing death.
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Originally Posted by 6Msentra
they will still be arrested.
The moment they show identification identifying them as diplomatc staff (and diplomatic license plates are also strong support of such claim), the police are effectively handcuffed and cannot arrest them. Police can't even detain them if they don't want to stick around.

Diplomatic immunity is pretty much absolute. You could literally shoot someone in front of witnesses and still walk away with no repercussions other than being expelled from Canada.
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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^^ yea

thats when you pull a fred dryer/sgt. rick hunter and get justice yourself
Old Mar 5, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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^^ yea

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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
The moment they show identification identifying them as diplomatc staff (and diplomatic license plates are also strong support of such claim), the police are effectively handcuffed and cannot arrest them. Police can't even detain them if they don't want to stick around.

Diplomatic immunity is pretty much absolute. You could literally shoot someone in front of witnesses and still walk away with no repercussions other than being expelled from Canada.
for a minor traffic violation sure, however, for something more serious their credentials will be verified, either on the side of the road, or back at the police station. the crime must still be investigated, even though, yes, they will be released immediately upon verification of their status.
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Yup, a friend of my parents has those plates on his car and he's a consul from the Polish embassy. I don't know how those rights differ from a diplomat's though.
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looks like i was correct afterall....
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I was wondering about something sort of off topic. are those blue transparent covers for licence plates illegal? my friend told me they are (I have one)
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I was wondering about something sort of off topic. are those blue transparent covers for licence plates illegal? my friend told me they are (I have one)

Illegal.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
Illegal.
yup.

just get a clear one ($5), imo that looks better anyways.
Old Mar 25, 2007 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by drift_n_shift
yup.

just get a clear one ($5), imo that looks better anyways.
Technically, you are not allowed to cover any portion of the plate. That means clear covers are illegal as well. Also all those dealer plate doodads are illegal as they usually cover the bottom writing. Just depends who stops you.
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