Pics: Clean JDM ITR
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Pics: Clean JDM ITR
I know these things are everywhere now and nobody really cares. I just thought this one was really clean so its worth the post
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I always find it humourous when I see strut bars, etc with heim jointed ends. The idea behind the bar is to tighten the chassis...... What good is the bar if its just flexing at its ends in harmony with the rest of the car?
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Originally Posted by 1 Fast SS
I always find it humourous when I see strut bars, etc with heim jointed ends. The idea behind the bar is to tighten the chassis...... What good is the bar if its just flexing at its ends in harmony with the rest of the car?
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Originally Posted by B6T
Stop laughing. Heim joints don't have any movement when force is applied in tension or compression along their threaded axis. The only reason they use Heim joints on strut bars is for ease of installation. Having an adjustable mounting point also allows a strut bar manufacturer to loosen up manufacturing tolerences because they don't have to worry about getting the mounting points exact. I think.
Now let's say you add another section of cardboard spanning the entire width, but attach it in a way similar to the way the top and bottom are. Still twists as easily, and will fold flat just as quickly too.
Now... take that same piece spanning the entire width and have it 'box' the cardboard similar to closing the top/bottom flaps on a cereal box. Now fasten that securly....
*gasp*
All of a sudden you have something way stronger with the same amount of material. Same goes here..... A car is essentially a complex 'tube' of metal..... The width of the car, generally, doesn't change all that much. Even strut towers 'sometimes' flex towards each other, but attaching them with heim jointed bars now enables them to move in PHASE with each other, without actually stiffening the chassis.
A proper strut bace is more along the lines of this:
or
Notice the firewall attachment point on the second picture. Increases strength dramatically.
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Ok I see what you mean and you're right. I didn't consider that! It makes perfect sense though.
Even still, I put a strut bar on my car and I noticed a huge difference. Granted, it doesn't use heim joints, but it isn't triangulated to the fire-wall either. I wonder if it could be further improved by connecting it to another point that doesn't deflect during hard cornering (my firewall isn't strong enough to attach anything to).
Even still, I put a strut bar on my car and I noticed a huge difference. Granted, it doesn't use heim joints, but it isn't triangulated to the fire-wall either. I wonder if it could be further improved by connecting it to another point that doesn't deflect during hard cornering (my firewall isn't strong enough to attach anything to).
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Originally Posted by B6T
Ok I see what you mean and you're right. I didn't consider that! It makes perfect sense though.
Even still, I put a strut bar on my car and I noticed a huge difference. Granted, it doesn't use heim joints, but it isn't triangulated to the fire-wall either. I wonder if it could be further improved by connecting it to another point that doesn't deflect during hard cornering (my firewall isn't strong enough to attach anything to).
Even still, I put a strut bar on my car and I noticed a huge difference. Granted, it doesn't use heim joints, but it isn't triangulated to the fire-wall either. I wonder if it could be further improved by connecting it to another point that doesn't deflect during hard cornering (my firewall isn't strong enough to attach anything to).
:lala:
BTW, this is scottyp posting his infintismal knowledge.... kinda hiding out in the background.
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Hi Scott...
Exactly how do you demonstrate how flexible a car is? Do you grab each strut tower and pull them together? I hope you put on some muscle because last time I saw you, it looked like you hadn't eaten in weeks.
Exactly how do you demonstrate how flexible a car is? Do you grab each strut tower and pull them together? I hope you put on some muscle because last time I saw you, it looked like you hadn't eaten in weeks.
