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Old 02-25-2008, 01:23 PM
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I am looking to buy a capacitor for my system but I am having problems as to which one. I want to get a Pyle one to go with my other stuff but I don't know which one. I don't know what it means when it says 4.1 Farad Capacity. How many watts can that handle. The site only says stuff like that, It doesn't say how many watts it handles and thats what I need to know. My amp is 1600 Watts so will this 4.1 Farad work or not. I don't know what the really means. Thanks.
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go on the interent and look for a farad calculator... it will tell u how many farads for how many watts and u should find it from their.... from what i kno 1 farad= 1000watts and so on
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Ok ya you are right about that. So I go by how many watts my amp is right? My amp is 1600 watts, and I was looking at a 4.1 Farad capacitor before, but is that way to big for 1600 Watts? Because thats technically only 1.6. Is having bigger gonna cause a problem or is it better to have a bigger one? Thanks
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:10 PM
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the bigger cap will allow you to upgrade in the future. it shouldn't create any problems. basically a cap is like a 2nd battery more or less, so all it will do is make you system that much more stable.
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not necessarily better... but yes it does allow for expansion
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i never said it would be better, but more stable
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Old 02-26-2008, 06:08 PM
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So basically a 4.1 Farad would be fine for my 1600 Watt amp? Thats all I wanna hear lol. Don't want to hurt it and I want it to have lots of juice. Thanks guys
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:21 PM
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y you think you need capacitor???
you have only one amp in your car? wich car is it?
and 1600W amp not saying much! it can be 50RMS and even les!
what company and model of your amp?

i think that you going to throw your money to snow.
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I have this old 93 Taurus. Its by no means in bad shape but I still don't want to be replacing the battery and alternator every year. Thats what I have heard happening to people who don't have capacitors, so i was just thinking it would be a good idea. And I don't want my lights dimming and all of that stuff. Just seemed like it would be a good idea to get one. But I donno, I don't know that much about audio systems yet(more of an engine guy). So ya if you got a good enough reason for me not to get one then I'll go for it lol.Thanks
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Old 02-27-2008, 09:58 PM
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A cap only stiffens your system, it holds somewhat of a charge reserve so that your amp can access it faster then the batter charge. What this means is that rather then your amp drawing from your battery, it will draw from the cap which draws from the battery and stores it. The benefit? Basically your amp pulls a charge from the battery faster then it can re charge hence why your lights dim, the cap pulls from the battery under normal use allowing the amp to access that power first leaving your battery alone and giving it enough time to recharge. A cap is NOT a second battery, it merely stiffens your system. It is simply a band aid to a bigger problem, is your amp 1600 watts RMS or peak? Is it really making your lights dim? This is due to a bigger draw, a cap is only a temp fix rather then just fixing the problem and getting a bigger alternator or second battery or smaller cell.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stinger69
So ya if you got a good enough reason for me not to get one then I'll go for it lol.Thanks
my friend, i dont need any reason at all! its your money and you will spend it how you like.
im here only to give you advice, and i need to tall you few things:
1. "I still don't want to be replacing the battery and alternator every year. Thats what I have heard happening to people who don't have capacitors"
it nonsense!! (maybe partially true when talking about very hevy systems)
and its even opposite.
capasitor is kind of battery.. he taking electricity from your cars battery in very fast pace for HI VOLTEG systems Not like yoursso they canget more stable electricity BUT where it coming from??? caz you slternator making same amount of electricity like allways..
batery that nits coming from your cars now working much harder and will dea faster and now your car have less electricity caz the capacotor taking it for your system.
2. your system is very basic and dont need any capacitors at all!
3. if you don't want your lights dimming and all of that stuff.. you just need good installation and nice wiring and you can spend the cost of the capacitor on "3 bigs" and all your car will function better!

hope that i helped you understand your mistake.
dont know y, but in canada ppl always trying to buy more and more stuff that they dont need just caz they heared...
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:36 PM
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Bub please don't be dissin me because I am being percautious and asking questions man. Not what I need right now. And i'm sorry but I really have a hard time understanding what you are even saying. Either you can't type proper or u cant talk proper. And I am not getting a cap because its what I heard, its what I have seen happen to many people. Its a lot cheaper then getting a bigger alternator or a bigger battery for me.
I can see what your saying Browntown_01. So thanks man. I can see now that it doesn't really fix the problem, just covers it up temporarily. I can just get a good cap for a lot cheaper then any other parts. I just think that its easier on my battery and engine if I have the cap charging up and the amp just taking the power from there instead of taking it straight from the battery. I have a lot of things running off my battery. A lot of extra's and big engine things. So I just think that a cap would make it run nicer and be easy on it. I just wasn't sure in the end if you were trying to say that its a good idea to get one or not? And I believe that my amp is 1600 RMS(to lazy to go check in the car). And lastly what exactly do you mean by stiffens the system? Thanks man.
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Yes it will help, by stiffens I mean as it sits now your system is weak due to the fact that so much relies on the battery, adding a capacitor will relieve some of the stress on the battery and thus stiffen your system up. I myself had a cap, it will help as some added precautions if your worried, but as your system progress's I suggest looking into performing the 'big 3" which would be grounding 1) Battery 2) Alternator 3) Engine which will really improve your system and then maybe think about a cell or 2nd battery. YES a cap will help, just remember it is NOT second battery, it still draws from your battery, it just takes some slack off at the same time.
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caps are completely USELESS
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:08 PM
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I wouldn't say completely, if you have NO other option it will make a difference, it simply is just no where near the best choice in the long run.
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