pentavolvo

Palatine or Wauconda, palatine is easier for me but either one. Palatine is prly an hour from the Il-Wi border

paarman97maro

Eh.. youre like 6 hours away haha... If I find a carshow or somthing nearby there in a couple months.. it could be a possibility.

Anyways, heres what Ive looked at, just taking a look at BB website... I know theres many other places to get them, but Im just starting here... Give me some feedback on these, or suggestions.

Also, does anyone know what kind of depth I should be looking for for the fronts and rears?

Fronts/Rears:

Infinity 6-1/2" 2-Way Car Speakers with Plus One Cones (Pair)
Handles up to 270 watts peak power (90 watts RMS) Impedance: 2 ohms
219.00
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1166236336377

Infinity 6-1/2" 2-Way Car Speakers with Plus One Cones (Pair)
Handles up to 180 watts peak power (60 watts RMS) Impedance: 2 ohms
99.00
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1166234894507

Subs:

Alpine 10" Dual-Voice-Coil 4-Ohm Subwoofer
Handles up to 1500W peak power (500W RMS)
189.99 each
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1108124880920

Infinity 10" Dual-Voice-Coil 8 Ohm Subwoofer
Handles up to 1000W peak power (250W RMS) 2 or 8 ohms
104.99 each
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1140392384272

Infinity Reference Series 164W Class AB 4-Channel MOSFET Amplifier
309.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1140392384101

Alpine V-Power 75W MOSFET Multichannel Amplifier with Adjustable Crossover
205.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134701297748

Rockford Punch 1320W Class AB Bridgeable 4-Channel Amplifier with Variable Crossovers
309.99
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1141762608599


How much does it usually cost to build a box... I think I heard a few years ago from a friend like 50 to 100? I plan on building my own, so Im just wondering what the cost of thats gonna be. Do you guys think I would have enough room to fit subs with my idea, or should I just scratch it?

NoRiceInside

damn paar youre in for an easy ride. i think you have the basic system. youve got a deck with an internal amp, 1 speaker in each door, 1 speaker in each rear seat, so total 4. no crazy wiring, simple 4 channel.

now if you had my car...the 10 speaker monsoon...the deck has an amp that powers the front tweets, then theres a 5 channel amp in the rear that powers the two door speakers, the rear hatch speakers/tweets, and then the subs in the back seat. and the wirings and crossover setup is gay. you have to rewire the entire car.

paarman97maro

So having said this, my amp will be powering my front speakers, so to speak (fronts and rears). So my head unit puts out 50 watts each, is there any reason to get those speakers taht put out about 90 RMS? or should I stick closer to 50ish watts? Im not sure if thats how it works, just wondering.

-Freak-

good thread, i was looking at replacing some speakers also.

pentavolvo

Ok Parr first thing talk to a store manager or something tell them you want to know how to take advantage of the infnity accomodations program basically a website you go to to order all the infinity stuff at cost and it takes like a week or so to get to your house, best pricing you will ever find anywhere period. When we carried infinity at circuit city we got it so i assume u do. Some ppl will try to give you the run around and pretend they dont know about it cause they will want you to buy em in store and buy protection or whatever the hell it is.

Ok on to the stereo. Those are the brand new model infnitys, if you can get the previous model year it will be cheaper thats for sure. I would go with a 4 ohm speaker which either the website is wrong or best buy is high on something if all they carry is 2ohm infinity speakers now. I would go with either reference front and back or kappas in the front and back. Sounddomain has a great deal on reference last years models right now http://www.cardomain.com/item/INFREF6012I or go with the kappas http://www.crutchfield.com/S-rvcROYz...2000&I=108627I . Honestly I would pick up 2 pairs of the refence either from cardomain or if you can find em cheaper. For the speaker amp I would avoid rockford fogate like the plague especially the entry line like bestbuy carrys its crap honestly, if you buy it you better buy protection for it cuase u will need it. A really nice amp actually that Ive used in a few cars is the pioneer 4 channel which apparently best buy doesnt sell anymore like they used to, last years model killer price http://sonicelectronix.com/item_6824.html . An amp like this is more then enough to drive 4 speakers in the camaro. The infinity is a nice amp but I have a feeling even with your discount its gonna cost way more, prly a lil over 200 or somewhere around there, yes it has more power but you really dont need it. Alpine deff makes some nice amps but that 4 channel is deff cutting it a bit small, so i would pass on it.

Subs, cost to build one is 30-50 dollars. You could go where you wanna go but its gonna stick up a decent amount, if you want some subs that are slim check out these http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=106 a great sub ive used em in a few pickup trucks and its quite nice, Matt runs there component speakers and has heard my subs he can vouch for there build quality. You deff can put a box there but plan on it being more then 2 inches tall. For the subs you listed I would deff go with the infnity, less mounting depth and honestly i think it fits the bill much nicer for your setup. Problem being bestbuy only sells the DVC version which could make this a bit harder. Then pick up the infinity mono block http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1140392383944 and you will be set, someone will try to tell you the amp isnt 1ohm stable and it wont work with the sub combination, it is 1ohm stable its just not advertised i used to install this amp all the time. Let me know what the price is on that amp i may be able to find you something for less money thats just as nice. Personally I would go with 2 of the slim elemental designs subs.

If you wanna come out to the suburbs ill build you a box for material cost or whatever and take care of you. To answer one of your questions the amp powers the speakers not the headunit, and the headunit is 50watts max, like 15rms. So its really not jack squat which is why you use an amp. If it looks like you are gonna break budget already do the speakers 4 channel amp first then add subs later might as well get your soundstage right the first time instead of half assing it.

paarman97maro

Ok cool... thank for the input man. So overall Im going to run wire from the head to another amp which will power my 4 speakers. then Ill have the subs running to a seperate amp which will power them, correct?

I price checked some today... holy damn we get a nice discount. For the fronts/rears I posted, I can get the $220 ones for $90, or the other ones for $45. The 10" subs I can get for 45 a piece, or if I did change my mind, the 12s are $50 each. I wasnt really sure I found the right amps... but the ones I did find went down to $150 give or take. Ill have to look into those infinty 6.5s and see if they really are 2 ohm or 4 ohms.

As for the box, I expected it to be higher, but do you think Ill be able to slant it like that? When it gets warmer Ill find out what the measurements are with the hatch down, and how much space I have to work with. As per the DVC subs, whats different about them? are they cheaper, or harder to fit or what? What should I look for instead? Also I might possibly go with those subs... whats difference between the 2 and 4 voice coil?

Sorry to ask so many questions... I just like to learn a lot about this stuff.. Im glad I have you guys here to help me out like this

pentavolvo

If you can afford it man go with the 90 dollar speakers after your discounts otherwise the 45 dollar ones are damn nice as well. For infnity amps the 611a and 7541a would fit the bill nicely. And yes a signal runs to the amp which powers the speakers, I can talk you throug all of it. The DVC SVC is all about wiring options. Most mono amps are 2 ohm stable so you have to match the wiring to get a 2 ohm load, the infinitys while they dont say it are actually 1 ohm stable, do 2 of the DVC infinity subs will work fine. Otherwise they are the same subs. You should be able to do a slanted box no problem. If you dont have ttops put em down in the well though man

Greg

paarman97maro

So you think I should stick with all infinity stuff?

69z-28

since you work at best buy and can get awesome deals on that stuff id go with infinity. i would chose it over alpine and theres nothing else there that really sparks my plug.lol

paarman97maro

which subs do you think will work/sound better.. the slim subs or the infinitys?

pentavolvo

dude go for the elemental designs they are gonna sound a lil better and use a way smaller box deff let u keep the box slim and small... i give u my word you wont be disapointed with them... let me know before u order i might be able to get u a deal on em, i do alot of business with elemental desings. If you dont have ttops id put subs down in the ttop well area it will be even louder :-)

paarman97maro

I thought about it, but Id really like how they would look up there.. I guess I dont need it too loud, and I still do ocassionally use my trunk for stuff.

75% of the reason Im getting it is obviosuly for better sounding system... the other 25% is for looks.

pentavolvo

dude get the slim elental designs if u didnt angle the box u could get a way with a total build height of 4.25 to 4.5 depth top to bottom of the box, which is freakin shallow man. The infinitys are like 5 inches mounting depth sub alont, not figuring vent behind the pull and wood thickness. Im tellin u man make the trip to illinois we will do the install u can crash here for the nite and u will be a happy camper

69z-28

we will get paar fugged up with BBYY and he can meet polar bear. OMG, hahaha!!!