strut tower brace
 

ok well im starting on my suspension and figured i would start with a strut tower brace iv heard good things about them i found this one on ebay for like $85 is that a good price does any one else make them for a v6?

hes the link to the one on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STRUT...em180224089407

sub frame connectors would be a better first suspension mod. but a strut bar is cool for looks and some stabilation in the front end. basically another sway bar. I bought mine from UMI.

I have that STB.. it fit well, and looks nice too. I like it.

Heres probably the only pics Ive ever posted of my engine bay: http://www.projectcamaro.com/forum/s...ighlight=decal

Yea I have a hotchkis STB, It looks sweet as hell but I didnt notice a big difference in anything.

SFC's are much more important than STB's. As everyone else has said, you wont notice much of a difference from a STB, I've had one on my maro before and I took it off and sold it at Autofair because I couldnt tell a difference either way.

On the other hand, SFC's were a difference like night and day. My oppinion, get some UMI SFC's.

Yeah, I just got it mainly because it looks cool haha.

Yea I need to get some SFC's, Where did everyone pick thiers up for a decent price?

sfc are the best mod for an fbody because eventully even the 6ers start to twist.
I got my subframes rom speed inc when they had a bmr sale or gp i cant member both the ls1 and lt1 have them.

stb you wont notice at all unless u corner hard but its part of tying everything together.
lca's are another good one keep the power on the ground.

well the sfc are a little pricey the lowest i could find was 300 on ebay where as the stb was only close to 100

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en....00&lnk=prsugg
stop using egay and use froogle you'll save a few hundred bucks, and probably get better quality

http://www.victoryracingengines.com/...hp?SECTION=236

i found these on victory racing.com would the 3rd ones down be a better way to go than the stb?

If you do go with STB, the one you posted is a great product. J&M is a good company to deal with. The quality and fit was awesome.

under $200 except the 3 point SFC

http://umiperformance.com/products.php?category_id=129

Building up a good suspension will change your car so much. Like others said you probably won't feel a difference at all with the strut tower brace but at the same time it can't hurt at all. I put one on my car to help tie everything together.

I agree with what ya say Chad, but personally, i'd much rather spend money on things that I know will make a signifigant difference. It cant hurt, and im sure i'd notice it when autocrossing, but as per a STB, i'd rather put $100 to use somewhere more important.

I'd just save the $100 and save up some more for some 3 point SFC's. Its like night and day any way you drive the car.

Random thought: I have a blown mustang that comes into my work occasionally, with street drags, cam, heads, the works. But he has pretty much no suspension mods (i've driven the car many times now) and it wont hook at all. Whats the point in having power if you cant get it to the ground? It makes me laugh at him occasionally. Just a good example of why suspension is so important.

phate the random thought is good. lotta them supra things are like that too.....

bolt in subs are good umi makes em boxed i believe?

bolt in subs are useless kind of like a wheelie bar on a civic, the bolts stretch, the sheetmetal moves, weld in is creating a stronger joint, and ing the load

well i dont know any one that can weld good and was trying to avoid having to take it to a shop because that would be more money so would the bolt one ones be ok? and how much better is the 3 point better than the 2?
like this http://umiperformance.com/2002?category_id=129

it depends what your using it for, street or strip I guess. and you can weld them later anyways...

im just using it for the street somthing to jsut improve the handling on corners and what not i dont race much if ever

bolt in ones should be fine, get some titanium bolts and some lock tight and call it good!

I have three point bolt-in subframe connectors and don't have any issues at all. They are easy to install and make an instant difference. To me the best part about the bolt-in ones is that you can install them yourself and then later have them welded to really make them secure.

mine are weld ins my shop teacher in my auto class did em. but chads right u can have the botleons welded later
use strong bolts

how much are those, and where did you get them?

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I don't remember the price but I bought them off eBay.

Personally I would go with UMI's if I was going to buy a set today.

i think i'll just go with the umi 2 point bolt ons sounds good? how much better would the 3 point be are they worth the extra 100 since im not racing or any thing?

from my experience, the bolt in ones really do nothing but look cool, they actually will cause the floor to flex (you just made a fulcrum) the type of bolts has nothing to do with it, it's the fact you are transferring all the stress that was out to that one hole, if your not going to weld them don't bother with them

If you tighten them tight enough the stress wouldnt focus on just the holes.. Youre pinching it to the body, so its going to reinforce that area. For example, bridges wouldnt work according to your logic. I can see where welding would make much more of a difference, but to say that they are worthless without welding is a major understatement to me.

If I decide to keep modding the 6, suspension is where Im going next. Ill have to look into costs.

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As stated before, alot of people buy the bolt in connectors and then weld them when money becomes available. Go with the UMI tubular. Good products from UMI.

ok sounds good i think i'll order these later tonight http://umiperformance.com/2002?category_id=129

I bet those will make a big difference and are high quality like all of UMI's other stuff.

yeah i hope so

alright well good news i orderd them last thurs i think and i got them today a day earlier than they where expected!! i'll try to get them installed tommorw since i dont have to work tmrw night

Perfect, I know you'll be happy with the results.

yeah i hope so and i think i will be im really excited

ok well i just got them installed and they seem to make a good difference but due to the wet roads i couldnt go to fast around the corners so im happy with them and they wherent hard to install at all it only took around an hour :D

hmm... to pit money on suspension or no.. haha. Im tempted.

awesome. glad everything went well on the install for you