oh im the opposite, they told me how it works, with hydraulics and everything, just not when :D

No I get 4th it just is for racing and is a nonlock up so I will keep looking I am thinking for getting my exhaust tomarrow 3 inch all th way back it will be sweet

yeah im not sure, but the converter was obviously not locking up because when i would downshift it into 2nd not a whole lot would happen, and i didn't get 4th. but then one day i got on it (like 6200 rpm) and all of the sudden it was fine again. i didn't get it but who cares, it worked. the stall is nice tho. you can definately feel it when you launch, but the 2600 isnt obnoxious for everyday driving, the only time i really notice it is when the trans is cold (i think it has something to do w/ the fluid).