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Old 07-24-2008, 07:18 PM
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$500 Red Light Camera Fine

TheStar.com | GTA | Report urges increase in red-light fines

Penalties for running red lights should be substantially increased, says a staff report to Toronto council that also outlines plans to quadruple the number of such cameras in the city, to 98 by the end of 2009.

While the report is silent on how much penalties should rise, Councillor Michael Thompson, whose motion triggered it, is not. He wants the penalty boosted to $500.

"The $180 right now is simply too low," he told the Star. "People don't pay much attention. It's the cost of dinner for two and a night out in Toronto; we need to change that."

He also wants running a red to cost drivers six demerit points, not the current three. Points can only be assessed by police at the scene.

Thompson started pushing for tougher penalties after a red-light runner triggered a crash in his Scarborough Centre ward last July that killed a young mother waiting at a bus shelter and hurt eight others.

The city report says more than 74,000 charges have been laid since red-light cameras were introduced in November 2000, while police on the ground have laid 91,000 more.


Transportation Minister Jim Bradley's office declined to comment on the issue because it's not yet city policy. It goes before the works committee Wednesday.

More info from another report. Oh and Brampton wants to follow Torontos plan and raise Brampton red light runners $500 also.

But the city also approved plans to expand the number of cameras operating from 20 to 98 by 2009, generating 65,300 in annual fines. If fines were kept at $180 per ticket, the city would generate $11.8 million in annual revenue but end up with a net loss after paying private companies to operate the safety program, according to Gary Welsh, Toronto's General Manager of Transportation Services. By 2012, Welsh estimated the loss at $2,497,900 per year in a memo to the committee.

The plan to expand the number of monitored intersections within a short period is the primary cause of the potential revenue loss. Toronto had already paid for the cameras used by ACS to ticket motorists since 2000. For that reason, the city will only pay the Dallas company $3,774,400 to issue tickets on Toronto's behalf until 2012. German company Traffipax, however, must charge $15,137,900 to supply and operate new cameras through 2012.

By raising fines to $500, the city is expected to bring in $32.7 million in annual revenue and a total of $100 million worth of tickets by 2012, guaranteeing a significant net profit. The city also is looking at the possibility of suspending vehicle registrations for vehicles accused of "multiple" red light camera violations and publishing the license plate numbers of anyone accused by a camera. If approved by the full city council, the Ontario Minister of Transportation would review and implement the new penalties.

Illinois currently has the most expensive photo enforcement ticket with a $1000 fine and mandatory license suspension imposed for a second speeding accusation. Last year, the state issued 6500 automated speeding tickets on the freeway to generate a minimum of $2.4 million in revenue.

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nice, im glad to hear this. i see way too much idiots running red lights in scarborough
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:37 AM
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nice, im glad to hear this. i see way too much idiots running red lights in scarborough
same hear, even more so those d$%ks still turning left after it turned red, and screwing up the people who gets the green light.
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I didn't even know we had these in the GTA.
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crazy stuff. i personally think they should make the yellow light stay on little longer. sometimes happens, its no excuse but weve all sped up at a yellow light and hit it while its red. some big fines there if things wrk out in their way. the cameras are slowly replacing the cops. photo radar is gonna be next i bet, on every major street.
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Man, I have had to run a couple reds before just because I ate too many tacos and had to get home ASAP.
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we talked to a cop a while back who admitted to doing 220 in the cruiser, lights on, down the hiway......cause he had to take a
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I agree that there are too many people running red's but...... now everytime there is an accident fines increase? After $500 passes then there will be a another accident and what.... $800....

Cops should be doing there job and watching for these things because you see it happen almost everytime you are at an intersection. If they sat on the side, I'm sure they will be kept busy.

But all they do is set up these camera's on 10 intersections which everybody knows about and run reds everywhere else.
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if you dont wanta pay the fine, dont run the light, stop signs we all roll through, we all speed but i hate people that run red lights, most dangerious thing you can do

jimmy54 is that a old stang in that pic? its a little blurry, but your sig says 84 rx7.
i know someone who has a rx7 , unsure of what year it is but it is the first year they came out, body is all origional and looks amazing, hes a mechanic at barrie mazda, im not sure if he has rebuilt the moror yet or not. i think he said his car is #17 made of something like that.
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what happens though when you enter on a green and some pedestrian all of a sudden decides to dart out - now yer stopped in the intersection untill they finish crossing - and ya might get a tix

with the red light camera controlled intersections, side impacts are down, but rear end collisions are up 10% cuz ppl slam on the brakes, raise it to $500 and way more ppl will slam on the brakes = more rear end jobs, traffic jams, increased premiums, etc... Kinda looks like yer fukked if ya run or if ya stop.

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i almost got hit from a idiot today running a red light hurray for jumping on a curb...literly
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