Car(s) seized without charges laid???
06-22-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuztom Freak
Im glad that others heard what I thought I heard, pheww, thought I was hearing things, looo
kazanak - I dunno what you do, but thanks for posting intelligent relavent information
Michael Bryant (AG) is in a rather powerfull position and it really sucks that he would blatantly lie to reporters and to the public about seizing cars before they hit the roads, especially since this is his chosen professional feild and should know better (or perhaps the guy is a tool and has'nt a clue about the law, in which case he shouldn't be AG).
This isnt the first time Ive heard about this guy. Architecht friends have bitched about this guy cuz he changed the building codes making things harder on architechts wanting them to pass HIS tests and such, when they have been self regulating to higher standards on their own (they are members of some architech group), so they bunted heads with him. He's apparantly also been involved in trying to cover up info to the public and won an award for "creating a curtain between the public and the courts", he also tried denying info to the public in relation to some colleague of his in cornwall who was molesting children years back (some other prosecutor or such) <-- these are just second heard things from good sources, who knows what other kind of mischief this dudes done.
Maybe someone should do a lil research on him, write a story and submit it to the media, even small media like the NOW magazine (they love that *****) and show the public this guys true colours and show everyone that he LIES. Perhaps just tell NOW mag to investigate this guy and point em in the right direction cuz they have better resources. FUKKEN PROPAGANDA - DISSINFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC - SOCIAL ENGENEERING - I hate this *****, why cant they just tell the truth, oh yea, cuz they're lawyers, lol. <--Ok I know all layers arnt bad and Im sterotyping (I have many family and friends in that feild, hell, I studied law myself for a while - I just coudnt help myself).
kazanak - I dunno what you do, but thanks for posting intelligent relavent information
Michael Bryant (AG) is in a rather powerfull position and it really sucks that he would blatantly lie to reporters and to the public about seizing cars before they hit the roads, especially since this is his chosen professional feild and should know better (or perhaps the guy is a tool and has'nt a clue about the law, in which case he shouldn't be AG).
This isnt the first time Ive heard about this guy. Architecht friends have bitched about this guy cuz he changed the building codes making things harder on architechts wanting them to pass HIS tests and such, when they have been self regulating to higher standards on their own (they are members of some architech group), so they bunted heads with him. He's apparantly also been involved in trying to cover up info to the public and won an award for "creating a curtain between the public and the courts", he also tried denying info to the public in relation to some colleague of his in cornwall who was molesting children years back (some other prosecutor or such) <-- these are just second heard things from good sources, who knows what other kind of mischief this dudes done.
Maybe someone should do a lil research on him, write a story and submit it to the media, even small media like the NOW magazine (they love that *****) and show the public this guys true colours and show everyone that he LIES. Perhaps just tell NOW mag to investigate this guy and point em in the right direction cuz they have better resources. FUKKEN PROPAGANDA - DISSINFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC - SOCIAL ENGENEERING - I hate this *****, why cant they just tell the truth, oh yea, cuz they're lawyers, lol. <--Ok I know all layers arnt bad and Im sterotyping (I have many family and friends in that feild, hell, I studied law myself for a while - I just coudnt help myself).
how bout an old fashioned Dick Punch Then...he can ban people from making fists....
06-23-2007, 12:22 AM
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authorities have the powers to seize a vehicle (might have also said "and crush them") under some *power* they have EVEN IF criminal charges were NOT laid
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yes i also heard that. was surprised myself. i mean can they take any car off the street and destroy it? Its gonna be hard to prove its not modified after its crashed
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yes i also heard that. was surprised myself. i mean can they take any car off the street and destroy it? Its gonna be hard to prove its not modified after its crashed
06-23-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 84camaro
So.. i didnt wanna read all that bullshit... the basic point is..
if you LOOK like a street racer your guilty and your junk will get seized even if no crime took place???... that dosent sound right...
if you LOOK like a street racer your guilty and your junk will get seized even if no crime took place???... that dosent sound right...
And since you didn't want to read all the "bullshit" I'll tell you that you're wrong.
06-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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The 2 Corvettes were travelling at a high rate of speed on the 400. They were clocked at speeds of 236 km/h. Not sure were it start, but the cars were stopped in the town of Newmarket. Both cars were siezed, drivers arrested and charged. One driver was released on Bail the next day while the other was still waiting bail. The OPP organised crime unit is involved along with York regional police. York has now went to the Attorny general and siezed the cars. The owners personals were cleaned out of the cars and we are instructed that no one is allowed to look or touch the cars without a police presents. One is a 2002 vette adn the other is a 2003 z06 with a 406hp motor in it.
From what I understand, they are not going to crush the cars now, but are going to parade them around to show what happens if you are street racing. These cars do not looked modified at all. Although there is an intercooler in them and one does has a super charger. The one card had reciepts for work totally $15 grand US. ALso, both cars have american plates on them. One from Arizona and the other from P.A.
I will try to keep you all up to date as things progress.
Just an update, found out that an off duty police officer phoned in that these cars were speeding on the 400. No one ever clocked these 2 cars on radar.
From what I understand, they are not going to crush the cars now, but are going to parade them around to show what happens if you are street racing. These cars do not looked modified at all. Although there is an intercooler in them and one does has a super charger. The one card had reciepts for work totally $15 grand US. ALso, both cars have american plates on them. One from Arizona and the other from P.A.
I will try to keep you all up to date as things progress.
Just an update, found out that an off duty police officer phoned in that these cars were speeding on the 400. No one ever clocked these 2 cars on radar.
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06-24-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 84camaro
So.. i didnt wanna read all that bullshit... the basic point is..
if you LOOK like a street racer your guilty and your junk will get seized even if no crime took place???... that dosent sound right...
if you LOOK like a street racer your guilty and your junk will get seized even if no crime took place???... that dosent sound right...
06-24-2007, 01:18 PM
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You guys really dont get it do you,
this law wont be used only for street racing, they can sieze your vehicle if they are suspecting you were and/are going to engage in street racing. Which means that the next time your going to **** off a cop, which i do all the time they can take your car and tell the judge that they suspected you are going to street race.
this law wont be used only for street racing, they can sieze your vehicle if they are suspecting you were and/are going to engage in street racing. Which means that the next time your going to **** off a cop, which i do all the time they can take your car and tell the judge that they suspected you are going to street race.
06-24-2007, 02:37 PM
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I dont blame them.
I drive a JDM style EK9 with a B16 that I built and installed myself. It looks o.k but the best part is driving it hard whether at meets where its pretty far from local traffic or high speed runs on the 401 at 3 a.m when its practically empty.What really pisses me off is those stupid spontaneous highway chases,by
G1 drivers in their moms Accord passing me using the curb lane at 190kph, when i got my two year old in the back seat. That 's just getting old. I dont mind dying in a high speed crash that was caused by my own actions but I will never forgive myself if my actions results in an innocent person being injured or killed.
If your one of those drivers, POSER.
Think twice.
G1 drivers in their moms Accord passing me using the curb lane at 190kph, when i got my two year old in the back seat. That 's just getting old. I dont mind dying in a high speed crash that was caused by my own actions but I will never forgive myself if my actions results in an innocent person being injured or killed.
If your one of those drivers, POSER.
Think twice.
06-25-2007, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ivperformance
You guys really dont get it do you,
this law wont be used only for street racing, they can sieze your vehicle if they are suspecting you were and/are going to engage in street racing. Which means that the next time your going to **** off a cop, which i do all the time they can take your car and tell the judge that they suspected you are going to street race.
this law wont be used only for street racing, they can sieze your vehicle if they are suspecting you were and/are going to engage in street racing. Which means that the next time your going to **** off a cop, which i do all the time they can take your car and tell the judge that they suspected you are going to street race.
I will say it again: Your car CANNOT be permanently seized or destroyed without charges.
Further, for a cop to invoke the administrative 7-day seizure power based on the suspicion of street racing, strong grounds must be present - no matter how much of a dick the cop is, he's not going to risk his career to get back at some random lippy person with a modified car.
06-25-2007, 12:55 PM
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they got some fan mail from me cause its true u get the power hungry rookies and there gonna pull wutever they can.... my car isnt at all fast its simply modifed for show state an cruising around with my kids an wife. but that dont mean there gonna look at me as a non-street racer.... anyone with a modifed car will be a target an we all know it and yes its bullshit but unless we fight back theres gonna be nothing we can do.. i truly could care less bout a guys car gettin seized and crushed for street racing thats his/her own stupidity but u all know there gonna target every car out there thats modifed....
just my .02's
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just my .02's
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06-25-2007, 02:25 PM
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I'm not saying it is legal for them to seize your car. But kazanak, tell that to a cops face after he's pulled you over for absolutely nothing, and watch how fast your car becomes a "street race machine". No one is justifying this seizure ****. But for the guys that have been harrassed before, they know...It just adds to the tools that cops can use to shove things in your bum.
06-25-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kazanak
No, you don't get it.
I will say it again: Your car CANNOT be permanently seized or destroyed without charges.
I will say it again: Your car CANNOT be permanently seized or destroyed without charges.
"The Civil Remedies Act authorizes the Attorney General to ask civil courts to freeze, seize and forfeit the proceeds and instruments of unlawful activity to the Crown. Civil asset forfeiture focuses solely on the connection between property and unlawful activity and is not dependant on any criminal charges or convictions."
Source:
http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/news/2006/20060615-cria.asp?noimg=1
So, if a cop doesn't like the look of you or your car, poof, you car's gone. No charges, no evidence, no trial, no defence. Welcome to Michael Bryant's Ontario.