DAMN TRAFFIC - Study Predicts Traffic Nightmare For The GTA
 

Anyone else sick of it :dunno:

i definatly am
there isnt any time of the day where the streets are empty
they congested all the time

Yah traffic is horrid and will only get worse, I as a driver still always supported expansion and funding of the TTC.

Carpool and public transportation.

The carpool lanes on the 403 are a waste of space. NOBODY uses them, just goes to show how many cars could be taken off the road if there was a better public transportation system. Almost every car in the morning/evening highway rush hour only has one person in it.


We need a better subway system.

its gonna get crazy and we all will have to start walking!

Its also getting worse because of immigration levels. Enjoy traffic gridlock? well canada is taking in another 200,000 this year. They all goto major cities too. There is NO need to make 2% of canadas population immigrants ,esp asylum seekers. They wont be happy until our resources are all used up and toronto ends up looking like haiti.

Welcome to Brampton where that number is 85% :hypnotize

Yeah im suprised the mayor won! goes to show you how many illegals live in peel reigon.

We need to take lessons from RUSSIA.

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1990400.ece

"Vyacheslav Postavnin was quoted yesterday as saying that it was a good idea to keep the numbers of non-Russians in any given region below 20 per cent of the overall population. "If the norm is exceeded, it will make the indigenous population feel uncomfortable. As a rule people who come to such districts do not assimilate. They begin living by their own rules," he said.
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Anyone who lives in a multicultural area knows this is true.Can't wait till the liberals chime in.

thats ****ing discrimination... like what the **** man...
"There is NO need to make 2% of canadas population immigrants ,esp asylum seekers."
you do realize that unless you are of native american decent, you, yourself are an immigrant because you dont originate here go trace your family line back, some where along the way, they came here from another country (from another of your posts... poland was it?). sure, me, you? and others may be lucky enough to be born in canada and to call ourselves canadian born citizens, but do you have any ****ing idea what real refugees have been through? i bet not. go to one of those countries and get your ****ing ass set on fire and almost beat to death and stabbed multiple times then come back and say that we dont want refugees... :thumbsdow

as for the traffic issue, yea, we definately need better transportation systems. for one thing, ttc should collaborate with other regions and extend the subway system to vaughn, brampton, peel etc. they can do it with ease, but the toronto transit commission only cares about toronto :thumbsdow plus, for any that goes in the way of downtown t.o. for work, school etc, if they tear down the gardiner, we're all screwed even more

Your a complete idiot.. Native americans were not the first here. There have been bodies found that link to serbia. Clues are found when you read up on vinland. This of coarse is a second choice thats why you never hear of it. Why don't you go start a colony and fund social parasites? are you that retarded to belive most of them are actually indeed refugees? Its been proven over 80% refugee claims are false. Besides if they are refugees then why do they go back home for summer vacation? It's complete bullshit. Canada was built by europeans FOR europeans. Show my one area that has been built out of raw earth by any other group of people. These people vote in governments and should have to live with there choices in a mass. It's not my problem they live in a hole country. Your people are what you make of them. So now bascily your saying its taxpayers duty to take care of thousands of poor helpless third worlders? LAST time I checked our health care was a mess , our social services are going to colapse and our roads need work. We also have thousands of our own people on the streets. CHARITY STARTS AT HOME YOU IGNORANT .

NOW **** OFF.

so what you are saying is that serbians were the first dirty immigrants to this country? well thank you serbia for paving the way for all of the other 3rd world country's human exports.

also we would like to thank all of the eastern europeans who in the last decade were the ones to exploit the refugee loophole to allow just about anyone into the country and attempt status.

seems like europeans really screwed up here!

Yeah thats it moron... You have a dumass excuse in any topic like this and only blame "caucasians". Again if you werent such a idiot you would know europeans built canada. They also are not trouble makers in large numbers. Liberal government opened the flood gates nobody else. Euro refugees came here with skills and built the country. I would love to meet you in person and have you argue this to my face. You woudl quickly be muzzled or wouldent say anything at all.

you simple minded ****. if people's mentality were like yours, the civilization of the whole planet would be back in the stone age. i will bet you that if europe started having war problems, including your fav euro country/homeland, canada AND you will welcome them with open arms, and yes, they will be refugees by definion. are third worlders the only refugees? hmm, maybe your right, but if the above started to happen i bet you'll become the hipocrit. sure, lets not help these europeans that live in a hole country and i dont want my damn tax money helping these bastards, **** them... MY ASS, you'll prolly be the first one donating and helping them, and hey, i will too. i have nothing against europeans and i have nothing against people who need some help, be them black, white, brown, yellow or blue. and sure, charity starts at home first, i agree. lets fix our roads, get better health care and put more money toward education and transportation. but when a refugee comes to canada and becomes a canadian citizen, they become our people too, glad to hear you like helping the evil refugees you hate so much :smilie_da

I don't agree with that. Difference is most euros come here with skills to build etc. They arent building sand castles. Have you ever taken the time to goto a immigration welcomeing ceremony? Were you can view 50 or so "new canadians"?? I have. About 4 of them where of european heritage. It's not that hard to to figure out. Is it ok that these "refugees" from islamic countries were going to bomb the pickering power plant? or cause other forms of chaos?? Thats ok toronto would just look like chernobyl!!! but hey atleast we will be tolerant and diverse!!! even if we are all dead!!

yea, true, i sorta agree. the only thing i wanted to point out, or get across is that not all refugees lie their way here. some actually are real refugees and deserved to be helped... i know there are bad apples, hell, the majority of the basket may be bad, but there are good people out there actually in need and they shouldnt be told to return to a country where they will actually be in severe harm... also, im not familar with the topic on all euro's coming here with building skills (except for the past stuff), so i wont comment because i dont have enough info on that. but many non-euro immigrants come with sklills also, but go unoticed. two of my friends have moms that were doctors and one even doing research on a cure for a disease (not sure which), but over here, due to regulations and excessive costs, they couldnt become doctors, so chose other careers... its kind of a waste of resources if you ask me. anyways, i sorta see your point, but i hope you see mines, which is that not all non-euro immigrants are bad and useless and are faking refugee status or whatnot so just because of a few bad apples, dont classify the whole basket as bad and not let any of them come here

I do see what your saying. I don't doubt there are good refugees. But you have to ask yourself would you be willing to sacrafice the saftey of your family to that risk? There is a enough refugees to stay in there homelands and form a guerilla combat unit to maintian saftey in a given area. There is always a way they just choose not to bother. Take sweden for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boKzXp9CIPA

who do these people think they are comming to a country for asylum and then building on there own laws and placeing outrageous demands? That is not the action of 1-2 , 3 or even 1000 bad apples but many more.

sickening.

im eastern european so **** u with ur lil bullshit comment that u have no knowledge about.

nastyzed i agree with u on the most part but u cant blame all immigrants for what has happened to this city. Canada chooses who they want to let in
they dont let in the good people for example doctors or lawyers (for the most part that is) they let in the people that are in trouble. and beleive me in most cases those ppl are wanted dead for a reason.

my biggest problem is WHY THE **** DOES CANADA LET IN ALL THESE GAY PPL. I dont care what anyone has to say i hate GAY ppl with a passion and dont think they are the type of ppl we need here. toronto has the 2nd largest homo population in All of north american
2nd to of course to San Francisco

before all of the eastern europeans coming here, most of the "refugee" claims were legitimate.
then the floodgates were opened when all of you decided to abuse our system to get free entry into the country.

now we have people like you here, that dont tolerate gays, that dont tolerate people from other backgrounds..... ****in leave! this country is built on these values, and if you dont like it, go back to europe. you seem to think its so superior.... enjoy your continent. you wont be missed.

damn... didnt that just sound like a racist view.. clearly not every eastern euro is what i just described.... yet i painted you all with the same brush.... hmmmm... racism is a real bastard isnt it?

Yeah idiot its all those eastern europeans who started it all :smilie_d0 . Your a complete faggot who prolly ****s anyone from a third world country. Are you that stupid? Last I checked canada wasent flooded with eastern europeans. Its the third world that is aiding the problem. Nobody complains about euro immigration but idiots like yourself that preach tolerance and diversity. Your claims are unheard of thats the bottom line. You feel the need to take away the responsibility these people have for there own actions and place it on the white man. Stop making exuses for these people because they don't give a what you say to defend them. Do you really think anyone would give two shits if you went and protested your diversity downtown detroit? NOPE. The stats don't lie moron go have a look at them and stop living in your pretend world of "nothings wrong its all the white mans fault".

Now if you would like to continue spouting you can meet up with me and try to ram your bullshit down my throat and we will see whats what.

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! this country is built on these values, and if you dont like it, go back to europe. you seem to think its so superior.... enjoy your continent. you wont be missed.

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WRONG again moron.. This country was not built on these values. We didnt let this kind of crap in prior to 1971. EUROPEANS built canada and morons like pierre trudeau let the flood in. Perhaps you should read up on canadas real history rather then your re-written liberal version of it. Yeah all those values of exeptance and tolerance.. well let me ask you why did canada turn away a boat load of jews looking for asylum in canada when WW2 was going on? Yeah we were REALLY based on the values you speak of. Go back to europe?? why should I after all north america is was colonised by europeans I belong here just as much as I do back home. Like everything else we construct.

and where are u from might i ask? because i never said i dont tolerate ppl from different back grounds. if i dont like some1 its because of there individuality not because of there background/religion as for gays i hate them all BASED off of that so shoot me but thats me. but like nastyzed said
its soo much easier to put all the blame for your failures in life (if ur a man/women of colour) on the white man......pathedic

I remember you claimed to be bulgarian in another thread? Well it just so happens that a bulgarian man owns a good amount of missisauga and brampton and even parts of milton. He also came here with nothing , started working construction and is now a very rich man. I'm sure you have seen "KANEFF" on buildings ands plazas , yup a bulgarian... damn those free loading eastern europeans :rolleyes: :smilie_d0

yes i actually know kaneff personally because he is an old friend of my dads.
he did come here on his own. but as for with nothing that is not entirely tru.
but non the less he did create most of mississuaga and brampton he has a street named after him and his house is literally the size of square 1 mall. but ya i agree damn free loading eastern europeans. always ****ing up our society.

i have roots in eastern europe. in fact my last name points to my eastern european lineage.

however i am a canadian, and my canada includes ANYONE who wants to live here... i dont differentiate between cultures, races, or colour... i only see good or bad. i dont care what race you are, if you are bad, you are not wanted... if you are good.. you ARE wanted.

both of you seem to paint an entire people from the same brush, when in fact you are ignorant to the facts.

right here you seem to think you are making a good point, however you are using the same argument... you claim that all of the violence and social problems in canada are a result of the "non-white" man. your statement is valueless.

stop blaming an entire group of people from the problems that the few cause, solely based on their colour. it only shows ignorance and a lack of intelligence.

They need to quit ****ing around and finally expand GO Transit into the Niagara Region.

woopie more traffic.. not

Just to point out, the link is with Siberia, not Serbia. Serbia is no where close to Canada/North America.

i say stop bringing alot of people in year by year.
reduce the amount.
and if they kick out people for not having papers atleast do it to people who dont work or something. instead they kicked out alot of MY people back to there land and they were the ones who built us the streets and homes we live in. thats all i have to say lol

Damn, this sounds like another complete unqiue thread

its still related in a way lol

all i know is that canada should decrease the limit to those who enter the country year by year.

Can't easily do that unless we convince Canadians already here to have more babies.

Without more babies or without immigration, we won't have enough replacement workers to pay for the needs of retiring workers.

Traffic----anyone notice how the DVP never seems to not be busy until after like 11 pm to like 5am???

Immigrants----I'm a first gen. immigrant from Guyana (soutn america) and I work and go to school for Mech. Eng. and I pay my taxes. It took us a year to get our papers to enter Canada and that process is about 5 years now but I'm sure that differs from country to country.

I personally know thaht people from Guyana claim refugee status here with no pure B.S. stories...yes admittedly but the country has nothing sufficient to offer smart young people and so their parents do whatever it takes to get their kids a better life.

To sum all of that up - Politics!

I don't usually chime in on racial/political issues as my background is Filipino however I was born and raised in Toronto.

I left Toronto this summer due to poor progressive growth in Toronto. The infrastructure is clearly not capable of handling the volume of the population per city block and this in turn creates a snowball effect.

Canada lets immigrants in with no discrimination as we have all these "human rights" "civil rights etc., which for the government looks good as there is no discriminiation, they're increasing population as Canada is underpopulated, and of course, it costs these immigrants to come into the country hence the government reaps from it.

Yes we know these immigrants have suffered in their home country, not all but the majority, due to poor economy, pesos/rupees/and whatother currency being paid to live a daily life as we live here, but that means, they come here, with not much to offer the country. The majority of the last decade immigrants are political or economic "escapees". Hence, Canada scoops them up and because Toronto is the hub of the country, they flock here.

Less than equivalent education to North American education means, the people born, raised and educated in Canada expect an average 'x' amount salary for the schooling they've done. But because we have a large population of residents with sub-par Westernized education, but never theless know how to to accounting, or stock a shelf, or weld or fix a car... they get paid less. Employers know this, and can hire these immigrants with now working visas for lower pay. snow ball snow ball snow ball. Poor economy. Higher rate in welfare applications and acceptances. Ummm... part of my salary pays to subsidize that welfare fund. I don't work hard for immigrants to come to Toronto, to live off of me. Because they can't find work. Try harder. Lower your standards and work anywhere and build yourself up.

All this doesn't help with an even more corrupt government than before who doesn't put money into the country or city.

This is my rant. I've seen Toronto which I've seen to be a great city and once fun to live in, no longer. Excessive violence. Poorly maintained city. Annual hikes in most products, goods, services. Pathetic policing for the most part. (Apologies to my police friends). More racism than before. It's become so diverse with poorly educated population, there will be many conflicts.

And this year, I left and moved a little further out. And much happier. not the best, but happier.

What should be done from the beginning or implemnted over time is any immigrants applying to get into Canada is

A) You have no skill that can benefit the country, you don't come in regardless of how much money you have. By skill I mean... logging, welding, technical, mechanical.. trade work. There is not enough trades people in Canada. Everybody and their dog are office people or want to be office people, becuase you make salary/wage, benefits and sit indoorspushing paper.

B) No more people in Toronto or other major cities. Send the immigrants coming in to smaller towns and help them build their economy. Provide an incentive for business owners to invest in a business or start a business in Nunavut or Medicine Hat or ButtFukNowhere. There's more trees in BC... send some loggers down there. Send metal fabricators to Alberta. This provides an allocation of skilled people out over the country instead of one city where everybody is chasing after the same pot of gold that doesnt exist.

And I can say this because I am 30. I'm a high school graduate, went to Devry for 6months. I co-own 2 car forums. I own an auto detailing company. I co-own a tire company. All currently successful and still growing progressively in addition to my current position of Operations Manager for www.bimmian.com. My family is far from wealthy so I did not have family wealth. In my life I have worked as the Front Desk bitch in hotels, pushed paper to managing departments in various hotels. I have done production welding, I work on cars. So I city growth both from the end user perspective to business owner perspective.

And all this becuase I hate traffic. Thanks for the interesting thread.

Great post. I agree 100%