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blingshaq1 02-14-2007 09:33 AM

domestic really suck
 
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha

BadAssGN 02-14-2007 09:50 AM

were not poor college kids, we don't care about gas prices, just stick it on the gold card:smilie_da

I'd take domestic muscle over a traction riddled FWD anyday.....

rabbitman 02-14-2007 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by blingshaq1
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha

And Civics really suck simply because of retards like you, who post like this, without having a clue.

3nidapooh 02-14-2007 10:33 AM

man i have a grand am and i like the sporty look of it but i could care less about the gas prices cause i still put 91 octane gas cause 1-i work 2-i've worked on the car myself and done all the maintenance and small mechanical jobs needed to be done on it 3-after i got in a little incident i was still able to drive it back home on a spare tire, and a busted rad. So yes some domestics suck and some imports suck but who gives a its a damn car forum its for cars and the people that drive them. BTW i am a college kid and i work to pay my bills, tuition, books, insurance, gas, but i make sure at the end of the month i dont have to go selling something i bought a week ago.

AMKK 02-14-2007 10:38 AM

I just love seeing days when 94 is less than $1.00 a liter. Makes me all happy!!!:banana:

3nidapooh 02-14-2007 10:48 AM

i know sunoco ultra and i got a gift card cheap too i paid $700 for a $1000 sunoco card so its saving me big time whenever i buy 94 at sunoco

goneinsixtyseconds 02-14-2007 11:03 AM

and the point of making this 2nd thread would be?

oh, it's a newbie trying to make a name for himself on gtcars :|

StealthZ 02-14-2007 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by blingshaq1
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha

you have 4 posts and already you're trying to make a name for yourself...just stop. if you want to make a name for yourself quick times, just start by making fun of me within your first few posts. then again, a few have tried and it got them nowhere...which happens to be the same place you're headed.

dj_jake 02-14-2007 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by 3nidapooh
i know sunoco ultra and i got a gift card cheap too i paid $700 for a $1000 sunoco card so its saving me big time whenever i buy 94 at sunoco

lol why would you pump 94 into a grandam?

3nidapooh 02-14-2007 03:59 PM

because its better for the engine and its lasts longer and u get better mileage without have to change the fuel filter and injectors as often.....and btw i normally put 91 and not 94, i only use 94 when i do tune-ups and oil changes

dj_jake 02-14-2007 04:06 PM

sounds like you bought into the marketing without really knowing if the extra octane will actually make any difference. meh, i dont really care, people like you help guarentee 94 will stay at the pumps for those that actually need it

3nidapooh 02-14-2007 04:16 PM

well the higher the octane the less carbon deposits there is from ur gas tank to the fuel rails to the injectors, or u buy a carbon clean-up spray for $8 every 3 months cause u gonna starts burning more gas with all the deposits in there.
and...."The octane rating of gasoline tells you how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. Knocking can damage an engine, so it is not something you want to have happening. Lower-octane gas (like "regular" 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting.

The compression ratio of your engine determines the octane rating of the gas you must use in the car. One way to increase the horsepower of an engine of a given displacement is to increase its compression ratio. So a "high-performance engine" has a higher compression ratio and requires higher-octane fuel. The advantage of a high compression ratio is that it gives your engine a higher horsepower rating for a given engine weight -- that is what makes the engine "high performance." The disadvantage is that the gasoline for your engine costs more."

dj_jake 02-14-2007 04:32 PM

yes but the whole point being, your 60* pushrod v6 with its blistering 120whp could easily get away with running something much less than 94 sunoco. but like i said, i dont mind, if everyone who doesnt need 94 stopped pumping it, sunoco would surely get rid of it due to a lack of demand

2TONE_93GT 02-14-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blingshaq1
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha

lol.. i agree 100%. Ive actually been thinking of selling my tank and then buying a lude and doing a big swap with nawz :retard:

Actually, it wont even run on gas, it'll run on two of the big ones :thumbsup:

BadAssGN 02-14-2007 08:31 PM

Love that Body Kit.....



Where is the wing????

Supra_RZ 02-14-2007 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by BadAssGN
Love that Body Kit.....



Where is the wing????

it's a Special light weight body kit ....don't you love those rims:hypnotize

Does it have Vtec?

tmac18 02-14-2007 10:00 PM

but seriously now that all the domestic guys are paying attention how do you guys expect to keep up on a track course with difficult turns.i kno that theres suspension upgrades u can get but suspension alone cant counteract for the weight that the car carrys with it.U guys used to own the drag strip but now things have changed and imports have caught up so why not jus give the imports the respect that they deserve.

ALLAN_M 02-14-2007 10:07 PM

that comment u jus said can go both ways

how many import drivers give the domestics the respect they have earned unlike much of the import ppl that just think they should get respect

munch 02-14-2007 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by blingshaq1
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha


haha your retared ...first you start a thread saying they suck...then your post is explain why they suck...and then you say they must hate when the prices go up?......what my 12mpg truck hates it?..i dont think it knows it just uses it....now if your question was do we the owners hate when the prices go up.....of course we dont like it but if we really cared that much we wouldnt own them, hell i owned a mazda for a bit good on gas but it still was a little economy car that wasnt me ...i rather pay do drive and like it then save money and hate it

tmac18 02-14-2007 10:33 PM

i respect the domestic cars but i styll feel as if the imports are above u could call it a biased opinion but there are some ole skool cars that i jus gotta love but now that its even u gotta respect both of them an pick a side to stand on an if u havent realized im wit the imports

Young gun 02-14-2007 11:27 PM

sry 3ni but jake is right, pumping different octane than what your ecu is programmed to accept is not gonna make it faster, it can even be damaging to your motor. Stick with 87 in ur g'am and save your money.

BadAssGN 02-14-2007 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by tmac18
i respect the domestic cars but i styll feel as if the imports are above u could call it a biased opinion but there are some ole skool cars that i jus gotta love but now that its even u gotta respect both of them an pick a side to stand on an if u havent realized im wit the imports



My Take and why Imports get little respect...


I take my Domestic Buick Grand national, I spend countless hours reading every word ever written about performance and combinations, I carefully select the right turbo, and stall convertor I spend over 70 hours porting the heads, have oversized valves installed, spend $600 on forged pistons, gapless rings, another $900 on a huge front mount intercooler, Modified ECM, LS1 MAf and a Maf Translator, Another $600 on a progressive alcohol injection kit,I spend another 4 hours modifying the oil pump and timing cover, more reading to select the right cam, another 10 hours to debur the crankshaft, and clean up the casting flaws on the block, Spend another $1000 to have the block bored out, and have the billett steel main caps installed that cost $300, then the block is align bored, hot tanked, new cam bearings etc. then the easy part, Assembly. paint and install..
Now that it's running, I hook up my laptop to the ecm, and then hook up the LM1 innovate wide band sustem that was $350. and tune the car...

Now my car is pretty fast... hopefully into the 10s but low 11 for sure... we'll see

Now... typical teen age kid with a civic....

Cold air intake. $50
Cool wheels found on gt cars $500
Look at my car... it's "Modded"

the only imports I respect are the ones that run the numbers because the guys who put there sweat and blood into the car just like I have and come up with a great combination.

How can I respect a car with a bigger wing than a cessna????

NOTORIOUS VR 02-15-2007 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by 3nidapooh
because its better for the engine and its lasts longer and u get better mileage without have to change the fuel filter and injectors as often.....and btw i normally put 91 and not 94, i only use 94 when i do tune-ups and oil changes

LMAO... Sunoco 94 doesn't get u better millage I'll tell u that... It being an E10 fuel, the only thing it's good for is if you're driving a car that really requires 94.

I'm pretty sure your Grand Am needs 87 octane (as most domestics)... You putting 94 into it is a complete waste of money on your behalf.

Carbon deposits in your fuel rail? Helps your filter last longer? LMFAO! Stop there please.

3nidapooh 02-15-2007 08:10 AM

Well for the mileage part i may be wrong there because the lower grade fuel burns alot hotter than the higher grade and with my grand am i get 300 km/tank without the s/c trust me it drinks it compared to my galant that get about 550 km/tank, and first off i never said anything about doing this only to my grand am, and with the s/c u need 91 for it to run at peak performance, i also have a 03 mitsubishi galant that requires 91 or else it starts to struggle on the highway, and yes deposits from fuel does build up when using 87 rather than 91, i use to work at stp and they did tests on cars and guess wat came up when using 87.....more deposits, and with the 91 everything was running alot cleaner and performed better. BTW we tested all of this on a pontiac sunfire and a honda civic hatchback of course the civic performed better no doubt about it

BadAssGN 02-15-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by 3nidapooh
Well for the mileage part i may be wrong there because the lower grade fuel burns alot hotter than the higher grade and with my grand am i get 300 km/tank without the s/c trust me it drinks it compared to my galant that get about 550 km/tank, and first off i never said anything about doing this only to my grand am, and with the s/c u need 91 for it to run at peak performance, i also have a 03 mitsubishi galant that requires 91 or else it starts to struggle on the highway, and yes deposits from fuel does build up when using 87 rather than 91, i use to work at stp and they did tests on cars and guess wat came up when using 87.....more deposits, and with the 91 everything was running alot cleaner and performed better. BTW we tested all of this on a pontiac sunfire and a honda civic hatchback of course the civic performed better no doubt about it



Now being supercharged it's justifiable to run a higher octane.

Running any boost with 87 octane in my buick is foolish, this happend once, the kid at sunoco pumped the wrong stuff.got knock at 10 psi, with 91 octane I'm good for about 15psi with 94 octane 17-18psi and alky injection 23-26 psi VP fuels C-16 26-28 psi

Running 91 octane in a low compression n/a car is your choice but IMO it's like wiping before you poop.... it don't make sense...:smokin:

canadiancharger 02-15-2007 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by blingshaq1
can ne one explain why these tanks for cars suck.they must hate when gas prices are up.haha

Sorry if your on a fixed income....hahahahaha

ALLAN_M 02-15-2007 02:42 PM

canadiancharger

how old are u?

u seem very immature for a man with a kid

canadiancharger 02-15-2007 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by ALLAN_M
canadiancharger

how old are u?

u seem very immature for a man with a kid

Hey Big mouth!!!
Can I see a picture of your car???:loser:

dj_jake 02-15-2007 03:36 PM

^^^ how the fcuk are you still dumb enough to be posting on here, following your "700hp charger, but that was my son, i swear" fiasco.

youre in no position to be asking him to post pictures of his car, when the one you try to claim as your own exists only in your dreams

canadiancharger 02-15-2007 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by dj_jake
^^^ how the fcuk are you still dumb enough to be posting on here, following your "700hp charger, but that was my son, i swear" fiasco.

youre in no position to be asking him to post pictures of his car, when the one you try to claim as your own exists only in your dreams

Who the **** is talking to ?

gtown69 02-15-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Young gun
sry 3ni but jake is right, pumping different octane than what your ecu is programmed to accept is not gonna make it faster, it can even be damaging to your motor. Stick with 87 in ur g'am and save your money.

Adding 94 octane will make his car faster. Its just a bit but yet noticeable.

dj_jake 02-15-2007 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by canadiancharger
Who the **** is talking to ?

http://www.pictrace.com/i/englis01.jpg

canadiancharger 02-15-2007 03:56 PM

Can I please see a picture of your car shaft???? lol

dj_jake 02-15-2007 04:01 PM

lol shaft... you obviously know less about movies then cars, and im not quite sure how thats possible.
hey i have an idea, why dont YOU post a picture of your 700hp lx wreck! so far all youve posted in your stint on these forums is pics and vids you found on the internet of other peoples cars, youre in no position to be asking people for pics of their rides, since yours will never materialize beyond your dreams.

why bother arguing with me? do you remember what happened last time i embarassed you? you pulled your "my son hijacked my internet :retard:" excuse on me in a pathetic attempt to excuse the astounding stupidity you spew on here on a regular basis. plz end your life.

rabbitman 02-15-2007 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by canadiancharger
Can I please see a picture of your car shaft???? lol

OMFG you're pathetic. Not even close on the movie, only about 15 years apart.:retard: Get a life :loser:
Oh BTW, AllanM has an ad up for his car in the domestic classifieds. It pays to know your dumbass.

BadAssGN 02-15-2007 05:46 PM

wont be long and there will be a Canadian charger sucks thread

blingshaq1 02-15-2007 05:48 PM

haha u should start one about his 700 hemi charger but has stock mufflers.ha

drift_n_shift 02-15-2007 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by dj_jake

:lol_hitti :lol_hitti :lol_hitti
oh man, a great movie.

ALLAN_M 02-16-2007 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by rabbitman
OMFG you're pathetic. Not even close on the movie, only about 15 years apart.:retard: Get a life :loser:
Oh BTW, AllanM has an ad up for his car in the domestic classifieds. It pays to know your dumbass.


thanks buddy........... but its sold i dont have it anymore


SHAFT? HAHAHAHAH

hey dont blame him that movie was probably made before he was born how is he to know who that is

canadiancharger 02-16-2007 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by rabbitman
OMFG you're pathetic. Not even close on the movie, only about 15 years apart.:retard: Get a life :loser:
Oh BTW, AllanM has an ad up for his car in the domestic classifieds. It pays to know your dumbass.



Nice car rabbit man....:haha: :wood: :SELLIT:


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