Dumb fuks at toyota
10-16-2006, 09:44 PM
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Dumb **** at toyota
Try so hard to get GMs number one spot and sinking like the titanic in the process. The mighty toyota is slipping up big time.
Is Toyota's Quality Slipping?
Surveys, Consumer Complaints Suggest It May Be
By Joe Benton
www.ConsumerAffairs.Com
10/11/2006
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html
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"Toyota has become the recall king, something the company never had to wrestle with in the past as it won most of the JD Powers and other car quality surveys," wrote Wall Street analyst Douglas A. McIntyre. But, as the company's market share has ballooned in the U.S., Toyota had to ramp up production for North America and quality seems to have suffered," he wrote.
Other industry analysts warn that Toyota may be becoming complacent as the company attempts to overtake General Motors as the world's largest car company. They cite the Strategic Vision survey as new evidence that growth may be undermining quality at Toyota.
A ConsumerAffairs.Com reader in Portland, Oregon, agrees with that assessment of the Japanese automaker.
"Perception is reality in auto industry and with such perception I bought Camry but the reality is it is a lemon." she wrote.
From Sacramento, Donna complained about the fit and finish of her new Toyota. "My 2006 Corolla has irregular paint drips along an inch strip between 5 and 7 inches up on car doors. I asked a record be made of the paint irregularities in case this leads to any early paint deterioration."
"I had noted other cars (at the dealership) had varying degrees of the drip strip immediately below the dip in the door. I received the ridiculous explanation from the service manager that this was 'orange peel & they can't help that the customer doesn't like where the manufacturer put it.'"
Art in Florida is fed up with his 2006 Toyota Tundra truck.
"I have never paid so much for a truck and got so little. From the 20-inch tires to the seats that have been lowered so nothing can be stored under them. I hate this truck."
Finally, Deborah in Louisville is finding her new Prius to be a big-time disappointment.
"I feel there was false advertising by Toyota in stating there was 50 miles per gallon on the highway and 60 miles per gallon in the city driving my Toyota Prius hybrid. They jacked up the price $8,000 from sticker stating it was a car hard to come buy and that was their price and I would actually save money on gas."
Not so, says Deborah.
"After six months of tracking, the best mileage I ever got was 43 miles per gallon. Most often my mileage is between 30-36 miles per gallon which is no better than cars I have had in the past."
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html
Toyota Sludge:
The sludge problem occurs when oxidized oil builds up in an engine. Its forms a mucky goo that can cause the engine to seize up. Because the problem can be caused by failure to change the oil. Toyota has been refusing to cover repairs under its five-year/60,000-mile power train warranty.
But last week, Toyota sent letters to 3.3 million owners of vehicles equipped with the two engines affected by the problem -- the 1MZ V-6 and the 5SFE inline 4 -- saying it will pay for repair costs in cases where owners can prove they made "reasonable efforts" to maintain the vehicle.
Under the "special policy adjustment," which will be effective for only one year, Toyota says it will cover the cost of repairs if owners can show they made at least one oil change per year. The company, however, is refusing to back down from its contention that negligent owners are the cause of the problem, not a design defect or quality problem.
Toyota maintains that with millions of vehicles on the road in the U.S., the 3,100 complaints are microscopic and shouldn't be construed as representing a wide problem.
Is Toyota's Quality Slipping?
Surveys, Consumer Complaints Suggest It May Be
By Joe Benton
www.ConsumerAffairs.Com
10/11/2006
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html
Snippet:
"Toyota has become the recall king, something the company never had to wrestle with in the past as it won most of the JD Powers and other car quality surveys," wrote Wall Street analyst Douglas A. McIntyre. But, as the company's market share has ballooned in the U.S., Toyota had to ramp up production for North America and quality seems to have suffered," he wrote.
Other industry analysts warn that Toyota may be becoming complacent as the company attempts to overtake General Motors as the world's largest car company. They cite the Strategic Vision survey as new evidence that growth may be undermining quality at Toyota.
A ConsumerAffairs.Com reader in Portland, Oregon, agrees with that assessment of the Japanese automaker.
"Perception is reality in auto industry and with such perception I bought Camry but the reality is it is a lemon." she wrote.
From Sacramento, Donna complained about the fit and finish of her new Toyota. "My 2006 Corolla has irregular paint drips along an inch strip between 5 and 7 inches up on car doors. I asked a record be made of the paint irregularities in case this leads to any early paint deterioration."
"I had noted other cars (at the dealership) had varying degrees of the drip strip immediately below the dip in the door. I received the ridiculous explanation from the service manager that this was 'orange peel & they can't help that the customer doesn't like where the manufacturer put it.'"
Art in Florida is fed up with his 2006 Toyota Tundra truck.
"I have never paid so much for a truck and got so little. From the 20-inch tires to the seats that have been lowered so nothing can be stored under them. I hate this truck."
Finally, Deborah in Louisville is finding her new Prius to be a big-time disappointment.
"I feel there was false advertising by Toyota in stating there was 50 miles per gallon on the highway and 60 miles per gallon in the city driving my Toyota Prius hybrid. They jacked up the price $8,000 from sticker stating it was a car hard to come buy and that was their price and I would actually save money on gas."
Not so, says Deborah.
"After six months of tracking, the best mileage I ever got was 43 miles per gallon. Most often my mileage is between 30-36 miles per gallon which is no better than cars I have had in the past."
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/10/toyota_quality.html
Toyota Sludge:
The sludge problem occurs when oxidized oil builds up in an engine. Its forms a mucky goo that can cause the engine to seize up. Because the problem can be caused by failure to change the oil. Toyota has been refusing to cover repairs under its five-year/60,000-mile power train warranty.
But last week, Toyota sent letters to 3.3 million owners of vehicles equipped with the two engines affected by the problem -- the 1MZ V-6 and the 5SFE inline 4 -- saying it will pay for repair costs in cases where owners can prove they made "reasonable efforts" to maintain the vehicle.
Under the "special policy adjustment," which will be effective for only one year, Toyota says it will cover the cost of repairs if owners can show they made at least one oil change per year. The company, however, is refusing to back down from its contention that negligent owners are the cause of the problem, not a design defect or quality problem.
Toyota maintains that with millions of vehicles on the road in the U.S., the 3,100 complaints are microscopic and shouldn't be construed as representing a wide problem.
10-16-2006, 09:56 PM
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While toyota speeds up to out produce GM they forget a big factor. GM has been there done that and tried to win by mass mounts of cars in the market.A few years ago someone from GM had told them, you want to push a lot of cars and trucks out, your going to have problems. They said oh no not us blah blah. Meanwhile JD Powers keeps saying the Americans have come a long way for the most part and have good products.
10-17-2006, 10:10 AM
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LOL i doubt thats gonna follow threw.
something like this will not change ppls oppinions on toyota they have too strong a name to crumble from something like this although its a big enough deal to some ppls tru toyota buyers will still back the company up
something like this will not change ppls oppinions on toyota they have too strong a name to crumble from something like this although its a big enough deal to some ppls tru toyota buyers will still back the company up
10-17-2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLAN_M
LOL i doubt thats gonna follow threw.
something like this will not change ppls oppinions on toyota they have too strong a name to crumble from something like this although its a big enough deal to some ppls tru toyota buyers will still back the company up
something like this will not change ppls oppinions on toyota they have too strong a name to crumble from something like this although its a big enough deal to some ppls tru toyota buyers will still back the company up
10-18-2006, 06:18 PM
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Toyota wont catch GM. That day is over..if it was going to happen it wouldve happened 1-2 years ago when GM was still for the most part selling boring, moderatly expensive piles and Toyota was the reliability king at the peak of the "Domestics suck" era. GM is coming back strong, DCX too. Ford is just starting to restructure.
11-11-2006, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBYNIGHT
Toyota wont catch GM. That day is over..if it was going to happen it wouldve happened 1-2 years ago when GM was still for the most part selling boring, moderatly expensive piles and Toyota was the reliability king at the peak of the "Domestics suck" era. GM is coming back strong, DCX too. Ford is just starting to restructure.
You guys should start reading the paper its great its full of all sorts of information. "GM's revised third-quarter results showed a loss of $91m (£47m), down from an initial deficit of $115m.
GM is currently undertaking a major cost-cutting programme as it seeks to counter competition from Asian rivals."
GM is laying off there employees while Toyota is hiring...... hmm which company is doing better.....
GM once used to take up about 50% of the market but now GM and Ford barely make that up. The only domestic company that is doing smart choices right now is chrysler who started to sell off there smaller companies/shares that were not making a net profit.
11-11-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by turbocivic
Inform me when Toyota won't catch GM since GM announced they haven't made a profit since 1989.
You guys should start reading the paper its great its full of all sorts of information. "GM's revised third-quarter results showed a loss of $91m (£47m), down from an initial deficit of $115m.
GM is currently undertaking a major cost-cutting programme as it seeks to counter competition from Asian rivals."
GM is laying off there employees while Toyota is hiring...... hmm which company is doing better.....
GM once used to take up about 50% of the market but now GM and Ford barely make that up. The only domestic company that is doing smart choices right now is chrysler who started to sell off there smaller companies/shares that were not making a net profit.
You guys should start reading the paper its great its full of all sorts of information. "GM's revised third-quarter results showed a loss of $91m (£47m), down from an initial deficit of $115m.
GM is currently undertaking a major cost-cutting programme as it seeks to counter competition from Asian rivals."
GM is laying off there employees while Toyota is hiring...... hmm which company is doing better.....
GM once used to take up about 50% of the market but now GM and Ford barely make that up. The only domestic company that is doing smart choices right now is chrysler who started to sell off there smaller companies/shares that were not making a net profit.
.. last I check GM was hiring too. Its not about who was doing better its about the number one spot at the time. While toyota rushes to produce mass amounts of junk GM gets better.
11-11-2006, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nastyzed
read the papers thats it .. last I check GM was hiring too. Its not about who was doing better its about the number one spot at the time. While toyota rushes to produce mass amounts of junk GM gets better.
.. last I check GM was hiring too. Its not about who was doing better its about the number one spot at the time. While toyota rushes to produce mass amounts of junk GM gets better.
11-11-2006, 04:37 PM
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GM has always been the #1 seller in the world.
profits or not hiring/firing what ever u wanna say
GM has the most sales world wide. still is
toyota tried so hard to beat that but there quality slipped a little bit
still non the less toyota cars are better hands down
THAT NEW LEXUS LS i was in one the other day my gf works at lexus HOLLY what a car
profits or not hiring/firing what ever u wanna say
GM has the most sales world wide. still is
toyota tried so hard to beat that but there quality slipped a little bit
still non the less toyota cars are better hands down
THAT NEW LEXUS LS i was in one the other day my gf works at lexus HOLLY what a car
11-11-2006, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by turbocivic
Hiring? The only reason the Oshawa plant is staying open is for the release of the new Camaro... Do some research because your arguments are weak.
Do you even know whats produced in the shwa?????? " THE" oshawa plant was going to close but the camaro saved it??? Go do a little reaserch because your post made no sense.