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Originally Posted by ProjectCamaro
Yeah but they still killed the fbody and the pony car wars going back 40 years and their new cars aren't that good in my opinon. I mean the GTO has a nice engine and tranny but the body is bland and uninspiring(sp).
Yeah but it costs in the mid $20,000.00 range which is way to much for a rebadged Saturn! It's an economy car that's trying to be "sporty".
Yeah but it costs in the mid $20,000.00 range which is way to much for a rebadged Saturn! It's an economy car that's trying to be "sporty".
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No cars are good, there all junk!.... Im sorry but When the SS is parked next to the new GT like it was when I was at my dads work, i think the new GT looks gay....if i wanted a ****** 67 mustang id go buy one. thats the way i look at it. Your right the GTO isnt that great,Interior and drivetrain are neat..... Sucks the cobalts cost that much.....woopie do in time is all im saying.
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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
3. Rockford Fosgate Fan, your comment just proves to me you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. First off, the new GT has a 300 hp 4.6L V8. The 04 models had 260hp. Second, you have obviously never DRIVEN ONE. I have driven both the 04 GT and the 05 GT, and the 2005 is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than the previous Mustang. It handles much better, the gearbox is tighter, the interior is nicer, the exterior is to die for. There is honestly nothing that the 2004 Mustang will beat the 2005 Mustang in... except maybe price, but they only went up $400 from last year's MSRP.
Originally Posted by TA4U2NV
exterior is the worst it's ever been.
If the FBody come's back I'm not sure I would even buy one, I have lost almost all faith in GM after they destroyed one of the most reconized car's in the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm not buying a Mustang but at least Ford didn't kill it.
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Originally Posted by ProjectCamaro
If the FBody come's back I'm not sure I would even buy one, I have lost almost all faith in GM after they destroyed one of the most reconized car's in the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm not buying a Mustang but at least Ford didn't kill it.
Originally Posted by TA4U2NV
I agree, I dont understand what the big hype is with bringing back all the old styles, if they do that, all the muscle cars of today are gonna become big, bulky, and weigh more than the 4th gen cars we have, I highly doubt they'd perform any better, and would be put to shame easily by many LT1's and LS1's.
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now if ford hadn't screwed up the mustang braking it may be a decent car, but it takes farther for it to stop than an f150 auto sales are declining slightly, but gm is still the number one company in sales (performance cars only make up a small percentage of sales, the demise of the fbodies didn't effect sales by even 1% kind of proving a small point for gm)
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Originally Posted by TA4U2NV
Wow, do i ever so disagree with you. The New GT is said to have 300 hp, just like all the other GT's, the 05 gt has a terrible interior, and the exterior is the worst it's ever been.
And for the last f--king time, the old GT had 260 horsepower, the new one has 300 horsepower, look it up and quit wasting my time.
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I don't care what specs your going by, the fact is the new GT's are nothing to drop jaw about performance wise. Buddy of mine has an 03 GT with mild bolt ons and walks the retro GT's. I raced a retro black GT and yet my heavy LT1 vert with a bad coil was still able to win. I'd rather drive an old Foxbody then any of these new Stangs.
Oh for the last time people use your brain and understand the GTO is not ment to stand out from the crowd. The old school GTO were not ment to stand out but be more of a sleeper car and that is what the new GTO's are. They are sleeper cars that look plain but can be deadly if underestimated. The GTO's quality and interior are leaps and bounds ahead of the shitstangs by leap bounds.
Oh for the last time people use your brain and understand the GTO is not ment to stand out from the crowd. The old school GTO were not ment to stand out but be more of a sleeper car and that is what the new GTO's are. They are sleeper cars that look plain but can be deadly if underestimated. The GTO's quality and interior are leaps and bounds ahead of the shitstangs by leap bounds.
Originally Posted by Rockford Fosgate Fan
The GTO's quality and interior are leaps and bounds ahead of the shitstangs by leap bounds.
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Originally Posted by meissenation
chrysler has really nice interiors..
Anyways If I had alot of money id take a 05 GTO over the 05 Stang anyday. Im with chad Im not fan of this retro crap either its gona die out realy fast you watch. As for performance on the new stang its actually good for the car but it could have been much better. LS1 F-Bodys stock have no probs beating them even LT1s could beat em. Anyways, GTO lost to the stang in some mags yes but it performs much better then the stang. Only lost because of its poor style which isnt THAT bad. Id take one.
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Originally Posted by Rockford Fosgate Fan
I don't care what specs your going by, the fact is the new GT's are nothing to drop jaw about performance wise. Buddy of mine has an 03 GT with mild bolt ons and walks the retro GT's. I raced a retro black GT and yet my heavy LT1 vert with a bad coil was still able to win. I'd rather drive an old Foxbody then any of these new Stangs.
Oh for the last time people use your brain and understand the GTO is not ment to stand out from the crowd. The old school GTO were not ment to stand out but be more of a sleeper car and that is what the new GTO's are. They are sleeper cars that look plain but can be deadly if underestimated. The GTO's quality and interior are leaps and bounds ahead of the shitstangs by leap bounds.
Oh for the last time people use your brain and understand the GTO is not ment to stand out from the crowd. The old school GTO were not ment to stand out but be more of a sleeper car and that is what the new GTO's are. They are sleeper cars that look plain but can be deadly if underestimated. The GTO's quality and interior are leaps and bounds ahead of the shitstangs by leap bounds.
ewwww... foxbody
Those are some of my least favorite stangs...I like the new GTO's and if I was looking to buy a new car those would be one of the ones I would consider. There are other performance options out there than turbo/sc 4cyl....
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I even think the GTO looks better.
Car And Driver did a test
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8908
stang wins by 1 point..........still GTO>Stang
Car And Driver did a test
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8908
stang wins by 1 point..........still GTO>Stang