CryoSLASH

hmm ill hold you to that. Chretien spoke 3 languages and could reach out to far more people versus Bush's SIngle language coherence (well he knows spanish but when he speaks it, it sounds like a bagpipe whine)

B6T

I'm not going to get into the politics and all that that I don't care about, but all I can say is that when I leave this continent on a vacation, I'll be proud as hell to tell people where I'm from. Something you'd eventually regret doing if you were an American.

..77.

Like b6 said . I got a buddy in the states who just last summer stopped in for a bit on his way back to the states after a trip to Rio . I noticed a clean rectangular spot on his jacket sleeve and asked him about it . Oh , he says i had a little patch of the American flag there . I took it off before I went outta the country..77.

Supra90T

Chretien sounded like an idiot, didn't even know what his policies were supposed to be...He was a disgrace.

Last I checked, the US doesn't have French, nor Spanish as official languages. Why should he have to speak them? He represents the people of America, not Mexico or Quebec.

Supra90T

Say that now all you want, but it'll come to the point where it doesn't matter if you're from Canada, Australia, the US or wherever...Hell, look at what happened with the Danes just because they published a cartoon.

B6T

Sure it will, Mark.

So when are you moving to the states? You should stop brushing your teeth now, that way you'll fit in nicely when you get down to Texas.

CryoSLASH

um spanish is their second language
And he knew about his policies. he even passed a law to help canada say united for sure (quebec separtists were pissed if you don't know about it) and he even started the surplus which we are benefiting from now. You should be burned if yu did not think he represented the country well.

Turbo Jer

Just because you had difficulty understanding the guy due to his accent doesn't mean he didn't know what he was talking about. Actually that means YOU didn't know what he was talking about.
The Danes didn't just publish a cartoon, they published a cartoon of Mohammed, an act which is FORBIDDEN by there religion. So until we start publishing pictures of Jesus hung upside down from a cross or something along those lines I don't see us not being accepted around the world.
Well, that is until Stephen Harper gets us in too deep with his, and your, new bum buddies down there is the U.S......

Luckee13

bang on! I dont think Canada is that great afterall.. so EAD before you tell me to leave because if we the immigrants werrnt here this country wouldnt be so huge and populated as much as it is now.

Supra90T

Hate to break it to ya, but no...Spanish is not the "second" language. In fact, it's not an official language in the US at all.

I don't think Chretien represented our country well, no. Nor do I think Martin did. Or any other liberals for that matter. Chretien was a laughing stock.

Harper on the other hand, has done an excellent job thus far. I want to see Canada have good relations with the US, not random countries thousands of miles away. I want our government to stand behind our troops, not cut funding and forget they're overseas. Let's not forget Chretien's great contributions to our military by purchasing USED submarines from Britain for not exactly pocket change...Which proved to be absolute garbage. He may have represented YOUR interests, but not mine or any conservative for that matter.

Supra90T

Oh boo hoo, I couldn't care less about them crying over a cartoon. Meanwhile, here in North America, the word "Christmas" is shunned because of all the Muslims and Sikh's coming over here...Somehow THEY have the right to ***** about Christmas in OUR country. **** that. Is Christmas no longer considered sacred here? Or Christianity? Apparently not, thanks to liberalism(which puts minorities first - Don't even try to argue that, because it would be a waste of time). You might stand around thinking it's ok, but I actually value my heritage and my beliefs. I couldnt' care less about a cartoon they're going all jihad on...If it was up to me, they would have been wiped off the face of the earth ages ago.

Turbo Jer

Wow, fairly bold statement. I do agree with you an the whole issue of Christmas however. I mean hell, weren't they going to kill some dude in Afghanistan for switching to Christianity. It's not like our Christmas has any "religion" left in it anyways, it's all about getting presents that you never wanted, decorating a tree that just dies and makes a mess, and getting drunk because you wouldn't be able to stomach your relatives any other way. Amen.

I just really despise the Global Juggernaut that is the United States. They are however the only thing keeping Communism from enveloping the world. *cough* China *cough*

Supra90T

Bold statements are the only things that get attention :thumbsup:

And while it is true that Christmas is widely a commercial holiday now, anyone who grew up with it most likely knows what it was based on...It's part of how I and MANY others were raised - If in Aghanistan, they don't want to accept it, fine. But here...For many to turn on their own people and give into the whole BS that "Christmas" is offensive...I say **** them. They're a bunch of spineless pieces of that don't have the ***** to stand up to immigrants that want to run things here. I put things...overly blunt, but you know what I'm getting at I think

As much as people here(especially Toronto, as it's been noted by many medias) choose to hate the US, it's the most powerful country in the world and our neighbor...Bottom line
Not to mention that our lifestyle here is a mirror image in many ways of south of the boarder and it ranges from coast to coast(ie vancouver to seattle, alberta to texas)...If someone can say they truly hate or despise the US, then that doesn't say too much for Canada either

Turbo Jer

I don't think I can agree with you on the statement that we are a mirror image of the U.S. Maybe of some of the northern states, but definitely not the south. I think it's great that we have them on our side and as a neighbour, but that also makes us a target for anyone that hates the U.S.
Up until recently we have kept our noses out of other peoples business, but my bet is that is going to change. The only thing I can see that will be our saving grace is that our country is a perfect base of operations for any terrorists since we are so lax with our immigration.

I really just hate George Bush and the Military industrial complex that he and his father have created.

Young gun

^ who the hell would see canada as a target or an enemy, unlike the US we are truly a peace keeping nation