Illegal street racing has been growing a problem in the G.T.A
03-25-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by silentcivic
Like to say that that article is total garbage we should maybe all be like the cop talkin in the article and go home and watch some tv after driving home in are minivan and not work on are cars and id like to say because you drive a dam nice car doesnt mean you drive like some kid who just got his license racing daddys truck down the street its idiots who make this look bad then you have cops over rating their information.
Could you translate this into English?
03-25-2006, 03:30 AM
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How many of these alleged street races involve modified cars??? Probably not many. All I've ever seen in the paper is some kid in his parents car, messed up doing light to light. I live out side of T.O. and there are races that I've gone to that were around when my dad raced, and in 30 years there's only been 1 fatal accident.
03-25-2006, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bonads
How many of these alleged street races involve modified cars??? Probably not many. All I've ever seen in the paper is some kid in his parents car, messed up doing light to light. I live out side of T.O. and there are races that I've gone to that were around when my dad raced, and in 30 years there's only been 1 fatal accident.
I don't know why the kids can't find somewhere deserted. When I used to race off the track, we went to, well, somewhere where the only thing we were going to hurt was ourselves, or maybe a deer or a tree. There are lots of places like that. There's no excuse for stoplight racing.
03-25-2006, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbitman
That's because most of us that are smart, go to the track. And leave the stupid kids to try and race mommy's minivan.
I don't know why the kids can't find somewhere deserted. When I used to race off the track, we went to, well, somewhere where the only thing we were going to hurt was ourselves, or maybe a deer or a tree. There are lots of places like that. There's no excuse for stoplight racing.
I don't know why the kids can't find somewhere deserted. When I used to race off the track, we went to, well, somewhere where the only thing we were going to hurt was ourselves, or maybe a deer or a tree. There are lots of places like that. There's no excuse for stoplight racing.
If you can find someone that has been to all the real runs in the past 5 years (Big slim
) ask them how many fatal crashes there has been, or crashes in general.Compare that number to the acclaimed number the police have made up (50 or something?!).
Light to light street racing like all these retards in their I/H/E civics and v6 mustangs is ****ing retarded. They kill people, hopefully themselves.
03-25-2006, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 4cefed6
No, it is because there is a difference between street racing and organized street racing.
If you can find someone that has been to all the real runs in the past 5 years (Big slim ) ask them how many fatal crashes there has been, or crashes in general.
Compare that number to the acclaimed number the police have made up (50 or something?!).
Light to light street racing like all these retards in their I/H/E civics and v6 mustangs is ****ing retarded. They kill people, hopefully themselves.
If you can find someone that has been to all the real runs in the past 5 years (Big slim
) ask them how many fatal crashes there has been, or crashes in general.Compare that number to the acclaimed number the police have made up (50 or something?!).
Light to light street racing like all these retards in their I/H/E civics and v6 mustangs is ****ing retarded. They kill people, hopefully themselves.
I think the problem is the media refuses to separate these two separate forms of street racing. To be honest, anyone whose been to enough meets would probally agree, that police arent that horrbile to people who participate in organised street racing.
It's only when the media and soccer moms get worked up into a frenzy about the horrible dangers of stop light racing that organised racers get any flak.
Maybe we all need to start doing our part and leaving people who stoplight race cars up on cinder blocks whenever possible
03-25-2006, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sky_kid
I think the problem is the media refuses to separate these two separate forms of street racing. To be honest, anyone whose been to enough meets would probally agree, that police arent that horrbile to people who participate in organised street racing.
It's only when the media and soccer moms get worked up into a frenzy about the horrible dangers of stop light racing that organised racers get any flak.
Maybe we all need to start doing our part and leaving people who stoplight race cars up on cinder blocks whenever possible
It's only when the media and soccer moms get worked up into a frenzy about the horrible dangers of stop light racing that organised racers get any flak.
Maybe we all need to start doing our part and leaving people who stoplight race cars up on cinder blocks whenever possible
Im all with you guys. Most of the killing happens when the stuiped stock mom and dads car race! I havint heard of people with modified cars going around and killing people as much if not at all. The modifiers know how fast their cars are. Its not like oh ill race him just because i can and i know ill beat him But its if fun to go fast but yeah do it on a deserted road or something you race theirs always a risk. Im not trying to pick on any body in the form this is all general
05-29-2006, 01:18 AM
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About the Downsview airport.... Its no longer owned by the military, the previous Liberal government leased it to Bombardier for 99 years for $1. They build planes there, so the runway wouldn't work well as a drag strip. The miltary does not use it anymore. I doubt they would ever consider making it into a dragstrip. BMW does rent part of the tarmac for there driver training thing, and Chrysler uses part to store cars. So you could be happy about the automotive considerations....
But I agree, there needs to be a drag strip closer to Toronto, I know I'd be there all the time.
P.S. Its not used as an alternate landing for pearson, the airport is only running (lights, air traffic contro, firefighters...) when they are doing test flights, maybe once or twice a week.
But I agree, there needs to be a drag strip closer to Toronto, I know I'd be there all the time.
P.S. Its not used as an alternate landing for pearson, the airport is only running (lights, air traffic contro, firefighters...) when they are doing test flights, maybe once or twice a week.
05-29-2006, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 4cefed6
No, it is because there is a difference between street racing and organized street racing.
If you can find someone that has been to all the real runs in the past 5 years (Big slim ) ask them how many fatal crashes there has been, or crashes in general.
Compare that number to the acclaimed number the police have made up (50 or something?!).
Light to light street racing like all these retards in their I/H/E civics and v6 mustangs is ****ing retarded. They kill people, hopefully themselves.
If you can find someone that has been to all the real runs in the past 5 years (Big slim
) ask them how many fatal crashes there has been, or crashes in general.Compare that number to the acclaimed number the police have made up (50 or something?!).
Light to light street racing like all these retards in their I/H/E civics and v6 mustangs is ****ing retarded. They kill people, hopefully themselves.
Having personally witnessed the mad dash runs from the Islington and Advance meet location to the run location for that night, I can say that "organized" racing feeds the stop-light racing crowd and vice versa.
You can't separate the two. If it's ok to race on Bonhill after midnight, then it's also ok to race on Dixie or any other street when the urge hits you. Only when you make a clear choice between track and street does that blurring of "ethics" disappear.
This latest set of street racing deaths may actually be agood thing - it will force the government to finally criminalize and deal with this "sport". Let's see how "cool" street racing is when bragging rights also starts to include outlining one's criminal record and sentencing conditions, including vehicle forfeiture and destruction.
05-29-2006, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by andres_188
But I agree, there needs to be a drag strip closer to Toronto, I know I'd be there all the time.
The streets will still be used a drag strips or road race circuits by the mentally and socially deficient. If anything, the streets would become the test and tuning grounds in advance of the official meet at the official drag strip, were one to become available. People will do what they do now - they'll even race TO the drag strip, never mind waiting until they get there.
05-29-2006, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
Having personally witnessed the mad dash runs from the Islington and Advance meet location to the run location for that night, I can say that "organized" racing feeds the stop-light racing crowd and vice versa.
Yeah I'd like to defend this comment but it is embarassingly true for the most part.
But you have to admit that there is a difference between people who go specifically to organised races and people who cruise around the city at night looking for random cars to race against. And I can say positively that the majority of people who who do the "dash" to any organised spot are the same people who are driving their parents car to the meet(s).
05-29-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sky_kid
And I can say positively that the majority of people who who do the "dash" to any organised spot are the same people who are driving their parents car to the meet(s).
And I can say that the majority of those cars were personally-owned bythe drivers, and of which many were heavily modded both cosmetically and performance-wise.
And... a few of them are no longer in the hands of their former owners.
05-29-2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gldwngr
It would make virtually no difference whatsoever. You're dealing with people who have almost zero impulse control - they're going to do what they want and to hell with the consequences for others.
05-30-2006, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rabbitman
Street racing is TO biggest problem? you're probably safer at HK, than you are going to a club in downtown TO.
We see this after every accident, and they'll crack down on us until there's another little white girl shot. It's BS, and it'll always be there.
Yet they blame TSR. They call our advertisers, and threaten them, they try to shut down the site. Why? Did TSR start racing? NO. Some caveman rolling a rock down a hill, with his buddy tryin to roll another rock faster down the same hill started it. Did TSR start street racing? NO. Henry Ford started street racing when he built the second Model A.
If they don't want street racing, built a goddam track where we can go during the week. Get rid of the Maple Leafs, and build a drag strip there. It's not like the Raptors or the Leafs are ever going to win a championship anyway. The closest track is over an hour away, and then they set up road blocks, and do safeties and other crap, so that we can't go to the track. Well if you don't want us to street race, and you don't want us to go to the track, WTF do you want?
For some of us, CSCS isn't enough. We need to let off some steam, and so races start. Now, there are areas that are smarter than others, and racing down a main street at 140km/h, in your parents Mercedes, is not smart. I know there are a few police on this site, and I welcome them to respond to this thread.
Anyway, there's my rant about this.
We see this after every accident, and they'll crack down on us until there's another little white girl shot. It's BS, and it'll always be there.
Yet they blame TSR. They call our advertisers, and threaten them, they try to shut down the site. Why? Did TSR start racing? NO. Some caveman rolling a rock down a hill, with his buddy tryin to roll another rock faster down the same hill started it. Did TSR start street racing? NO. Henry Ford started street racing when he built the second Model A.
If they don't want street racing, built a goddam track where we can go during the week. Get rid of the Maple Leafs, and build a drag strip there. It's not like the Raptors or the Leafs are ever going to win a championship anyway. The closest track is over an hour away, and then they set up road blocks, and do safeties and other crap, so that we can't go to the track. Well if you don't want us to street race, and you don't want us to go to the track, WTF do you want?
For some of us, CSCS isn't enough. We need to let off some steam, and so races start. Now, there are areas that are smarter than others, and racing down a main street at 140km/h, in your parents Mercedes, is not smart. I know there are a few police on this site, and I welcome them to respond to this thread.
Anyway, there's my rant about this.
+1 need more tracks and more racing schools. Instead, Harper introduces "harsher penalties" for street racing. BS. Seems like he's treating the symptoms instead of curing the disease.
oh, and +1 for getting rid of the leafs. Sens are better anyways!
05-30-2006, 10:55 PM
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I think it would be pretty awesome to have a track built nearby that you could go to on weekdays 
05-31-2006, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo Jer
I think that this statement is unfair. That's like saying that ALL people that own guns have zero impulse control just because a few idiots ruin it for everyone else. I can safely say that if there were a track that were open relatively late at night that I would NOT risk the chance of being busted if I could race legally.
There are tracks available where you can run legally Why do you require one open late at night if you have your impulses under sufficent control?