J Kenzie from toronto star is on our side
06-02-2008, 12:01 AM
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J Kenzie from toronto star is on our side
dunno if this is a repost but thought it was interesting. notice our chief police commissioner's thorough response. for those who may or may not be able to see it. i copied the response about the article from J fantino below.
http://www.wheels.ca/Columnists/article/248098
Hey look at me! I'm a street racer!
Just a slight nudge above 150 km/h and Jim Kenzie joins Fantino's Most Wanted List
The responses: http://www.wheels.ca/newsFeatures/article/250631
Julian Fantino, Commissioner, Ontario Provincial Police
"Jim Kenzie's article is irresponsible, ill-timed and irrational, especially coming from a writer who considers himself Canada's top automotive journalist.
His actions, and subsequent bragging in print, diminish the good work being done by OPP officers – and their municipal colleagues – province-wide.
Last year, 451 people died on highways within OPP jurisdiction, almost half of them because of speed, drinking and driving and not buckling up.
That's totally unacceptable to me and my officers and should be unacceptable to every Ontario motorist, including Mr. Kenzie.
The Star, by running the article, is not only promoting excessive speed on our highways, it is sending a message to others that it is acceptable to break the law and put oneself and other motorists at risk.
The fact that Mr. Kenzie has extensive experience in testing cars at high speeds on closed tracks world-wide doesn't give him the right to flaunt the rules of the road here in Ontario.
I wonder what reaction he'd have received from those who lent him the Volkswagen Jetta and Mercedes-Benz Smart car if he'd had to call them to let them know the vehicle he was driving was in a police impound yard and would be unavailable for media test drives for the next seven days.
There is no need and certainly no excuse for driving more than 50 kilometres over the posted speed limit.
I would remind Mr. Kenzie and Wheels editors that the OPP doesn't set the speed limits – we just enforce them!
I invite Mr. Kenzie and other writers of the Wheels sections who do not support the "street racing" legislation to accompany my officers the next time they have to knock on someone's door and tell them their father, mother, son and daughter won't be coming home.
The Ontario Provincial Police will continue its efforts to make this province's highways the safest anywhere, one irresponsible driver at a time."
http://www.wheels.ca/Columnists/article/248098
Hey look at me! I'm a street racer!
Just a slight nudge above 150 km/h and Jim Kenzie joins Fantino's Most Wanted List
The responses: http://www.wheels.ca/newsFeatures/article/250631
Julian Fantino, Commissioner, Ontario Provincial Police
"Jim Kenzie's article is irresponsible, ill-timed and irrational, especially coming from a writer who considers himself Canada's top automotive journalist.
His actions, and subsequent bragging in print, diminish the good work being done by OPP officers – and their municipal colleagues – province-wide.
Last year, 451 people died on highways within OPP jurisdiction, almost half of them because of speed, drinking and driving and not buckling up.
That's totally unacceptable to me and my officers and should be unacceptable to every Ontario motorist, including Mr. Kenzie.
The Star, by running the article, is not only promoting excessive speed on our highways, it is sending a message to others that it is acceptable to break the law and put oneself and other motorists at risk.
The fact that Mr. Kenzie has extensive experience in testing cars at high speeds on closed tracks world-wide doesn't give him the right to flaunt the rules of the road here in Ontario.
I wonder what reaction he'd have received from those who lent him the Volkswagen Jetta and Mercedes-Benz Smart car if he'd had to call them to let them know the vehicle he was driving was in a police impound yard and would be unavailable for media test drives for the next seven days.
There is no need and certainly no excuse for driving more than 50 kilometres over the posted speed limit.
I would remind Mr. Kenzie and Wheels editors that the OPP doesn't set the speed limits – we just enforce them!
I invite Mr. Kenzie and other writers of the Wheels sections who do not support the "street racing" legislation to accompany my officers the next time they have to knock on someone's door and tell them their father, mother, son and daughter won't be coming home.
The Ontario Provincial Police will continue its efforts to make this province's highways the safest anywhere, one irresponsible driver at a time."
06-02-2008, 02:29 PM
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By far one of the better responses below.
And one of J Kenzies best lines:
I sent some positive feedback to the Star, don't want Jim getting a raw deal over a great article supporting us.
I have been representing drivers in provincial offences courts for many years and stunt driving is by far the most shocking development in the field.
I find it very troubling when police officers are authorized to be "judge, jury and executioner" in a country such as ours that prides itself on due process and fairness.
The new law has been very financially rewarding for people such as myself, as well as businesses involved in the towing, and impounding of vehicles. But I can't help but be troubled at how easy it is for a very badly written law, with extremely severe consequences, to be passed with little public opposition.
I honestly never thought that the day would come when we punish our drivers so egregiously for driving 50km/hr over the limit, before they even set foot in a courtroom.
I have no doubt that the law will eventually be struck down by the higher courts, but by the time that happens, many average drivers will have suffered the terrible consequences for years to come.
Mohamed El Rashidy, Mississauga
I find it very troubling when police officers are authorized to be "judge, jury and executioner" in a country such as ours that prides itself on due process and fairness.
The new law has been very financially rewarding for people such as myself, as well as businesses involved in the towing, and impounding of vehicles. But I can't help but be troubled at how easy it is for a very badly written law, with extremely severe consequences, to be passed with little public opposition.
I honestly never thought that the day would come when we punish our drivers so egregiously for driving 50km/hr over the limit, before they even set foot in a courtroom.
I have no doubt that the law will eventually be struck down by the higher courts, but by the time that happens, many average drivers will have suffered the terrible consequences for years to come.
Mohamed El Rashidy, Mississauga
C'mon, Julian. Get a grip. You can't even convince your own employees to buy into this nonsense.
06-03-2008, 09:06 AM
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great article, i got charged with stunt driving and its not like i even really drive fast, i usually just drive at a good normal speed, never had a speeding ticket, but of course every now n then you do tend to accelerate your car really fast, especially if its on a lonely road, and yea i was on a lonely road and i did that and got charged with it.
06-03-2008, 01:29 PM
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Wow Julian's response was not so much a response as a simple contradiction. Kenzie stated and sorted out the real facts, while Fantino simply disagreed. Just alone Fantino's response makes me wonder how could someone simply so dumb have made it this far in his career. I hope Fantino is the next victim gun violence in Toronto. Then maybe they will take their radar guns off the highway and start worrying about the real criminals.
Can someone bring up the statistic where only 42 people have been killed since 1992 allegedly street racing yet they were all most likely driving mini vans, station wagons, and suv's.
No excuse for driving over the speed limit, the speed limits used to be 120, but were lowered because of the gas crisis NOT speeding and death. Considering most people drive 140 in the left hand lane and thats 40 over, our speed limit used to be 120 so 40 over that would be 160.
I'm don't even drive that fast on the highway around 110-120 but so really the 150 doesn't affect me. But really when did speeders become criminals and more important. Like we're gonna take all our patrol cars off the road and get them to set up speed traps rather than stop stabbings, drugs, gangs, domestic violence, etc.
Cops are becoming hated more and more for a number of reasons, innocent people feel they are betrayed and have failed them. These street racing laws simply give another excuse for hatred towards the police force. This is just a stupid money grab for these, poor working corrupt pigs.
Can someone bring up the statistic where only 42 people have been killed since 1992 allegedly street racing yet they were all most likely driving mini vans, station wagons, and suv's.
No excuse for driving over the speed limit, the speed limits used to be 120, but were lowered because of the gas crisis NOT speeding and death. Considering most people drive 140 in the left hand lane and thats 40 over, our speed limit used to be 120 so 40 over that would be 160.
I'm don't even drive that fast on the highway around 110-120 but so really the 150 doesn't affect me. But really when did speeders become criminals and more important. Like we're gonna take all our patrol cars off the road and get them to set up speed traps rather than stop stabbings, drugs, gangs, domestic violence, etc.
Cops are becoming hated more and more for a number of reasons, innocent people feel they are betrayed and have failed them. These street racing laws simply give another excuse for hatred towards the police force. This is just a stupid money grab for these, poor working corrupt pigs.
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