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Old 01-19-2006, 10:45 PM
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Stop immigration?

I wouldent say stop it to people who have something to contribute to north america but i say we stop immigration for 5-10 years and see what happens. canadas unemployment rate is 7% WE DONT NEED ANY MORE MINDLESS DUMMIES IN THE WORK PLACE.


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Stop All Immigration
Into America

By Frosty Wooldridge
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Last fall, immigrant Muslim youths torched tens of thousands of cars in
cities across France. They created more havoc and fires than has been seen
in France since World War II. During New Year's Eve, immigrants set fires to
another 425 cars in cities around France.
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Maintaining political correctness in the face of France's ravaged society
President Chirac said, "Diversity is part of our history: it is a resource.
It is an asset for our future."
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He neglected to explain that to the fire bombed car owners, destroyed
neighborhoods, and French citizens enduring escalating tension and violence.
The immigrants of whom he speaks denigrate French society into slums with no
solutions. What he failed to address is the complete incompatibility of
Third World African and Middle Eastern immigrants to First World French
society.
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In December, 2005, in Sydney, Australia, immigrant Muslim youths set fires
to scores of cars and buildings in another rampage of violence. Aussie
police clamped down in a headlock on all citizens to contain the violence.
It would not have happened in the first place if leaders had not allowed
incompatible cultures to immigrate into Australia.
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In Amsterdam, Holland two years ago, a female parliamentary Somalian leader
wrote and asked Theo Van Gogh, great grandson of the famed artist Vincent
Van Gogh, to film her story, "Submission," about how Muslim men violently
treat their women. After Van Gogh filmed the 10 minute movie, a Muslim
stabbed Van Gogh to death. The Somalian woman is under a death threat.
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In Norway and Sweden, recent victims of inviting uncounted numbers of Third
World immigrants into their civilizations, those two heretofore peaceful
societies now suffer horrific rates of female genital mutilation, savage
rapes and deadly violence. One Norwegian said, "Immigrants are centuries
behind us and they will not speak our language; the only production they
know is how to make babies while living on our welfare systems."
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One leader who lost his son to violence in Bergen, Norway said, "This is the
cost of bringing about multiculturalism."
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A Norwegian replied, "Why do we need multiculturalism and what good is it
doing us or them?"
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In London, England, no less than five different languages greet and confuse
drivers and citizens in what once was a coherent, peaceful and viable
English society. Today, ethnic tension rides under the surface like a shark
circling a society in an inner tube. Terrorists bombed London subways last
summer.
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In Denver, Colorado in May of 2005, 65 percent of the Denver Public Schools
graduating class flunked out or dropped out. Why? No teachers could educate
the linguistic fiasco of 40 different languages, cultures and tension in the
classrooms. One in five quit every nine month cycle. The American kids that
did graduate thanked their lucky stars to get out of high school alive.
Because of dumbing down classrooms, few were prepared for college.
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In the highly liberal and welcoming of 'diversity and multiculturalism'
Mecca of Boulder, Colorado, a phenomenon of 'White Flight' reported in the
Rocky Mountain News, December 19, 2005, www.rockymountainnews.com, showed
that the neighborhood around Columbine Elementary was 87 percent Caucasian,
but that the school contained 83 percent Hispanic kids.
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While very rich and very white parents driving $50,000 SUVs sporting
"Celebrate Diversity' bumper stickers love the concept of
'multiculturalism', they carted their kids off to other area schools that
would educate them instead of dumb down their kids to the illegal immigrant
classrooms.
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In California, Arizona and Texas, Mexican immigrants, both legal and
illegal, wave Mexican flags in their vehicles, homes, parties,
demonstrations and school classrooms. They speak Spanish and demand
everything be translated in their native language. Now with over 10 million
illegal alien Mexicans, the United States suffers colonization by sheer
numbers and bows to their demands while it spends billions on language
classes for children and parents who will never honor English of their host
country.
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In Detroit, Michigan, hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants refuse to
speak English nor do they honor America's culture by separating from their
former countries.
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What we have is the lie of 'multiculturalism'. The aforementioned examples
offer the tip of the conflagrations awaiting America. While America still
suffers from racism on both sides of the black and white curtain, it injects
itself with the lie of Mexican colonization as well as Muslim immigration.
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These new immigrants arrive from totally incompatible cultures. They are the
seeds of cancer sewn into our social fabric that will eventually destroy our
nation. Again, when the rate of immigration exceeds the rate of
assimilation, it is a recipe for the annihilation of our civilization.
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How can anyone think that a documented violent religion that dominates the
Middle East and is bent on destroying Israel-is something we want or need in
America? How can anyone who knows Mexico think its culture 'wants' to
assimilate into America's?
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No country on earth today is successful with 'multiculturalism'. It's a lie,
it's a proven failure, it's dangerous, it's deadly and it's growing in
America.
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While hundreds of thousands flee Los Angeles and other cities with millions
of immigrants, at some point, there's no place to run or escape in America.
We'll be forced toward violence. At that point, the government will bring
about martial law to keep the peace. Why invite that moment? Why repeat
Paris, France?
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Can you think of any positive reasons why we need one more immigrant whether
legal or illegal? Name a single valued point of adding more foreigners to
our country in the 21st century. Give one single merit on how our nation
will survive multiple languages? How will we survive violent religions?
Since we have 10 million illegal alien Mexicans today, how will we survive
the next 10 million or even 20 million? Have you seen any good to the
growing gridlock, educational crisis, hospital crisis, disease crisis,
crime, acid rain, air pollution or loss of quality of life in America? Do we
want to add another 100, 200, 300 million people to our country?
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Will more immigrants working at minimum wage be able to pay off our $7.9
trillion debt? Will more insourced immigrants pay off our pending Social
Security crisis? Will more immigrants solve California's $38 billion debt?
Will more immigrants with hundreds of languages help our nation remain
cohesive? Will more of our working poor be able to survive millions of more
immigrants? Will importing millions from those countries sending us
immigrants stop their adding 85 million more annually? Give one single good
reason for more immigration! Can't?
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What do you do to stop the sinking of the Titanic? Stop the water from
pouring in! What do you do to keep a failing hot air balloon aloft? Patch
the hole! What do you do to avoid a head-on accident? Turn sharply in
another direction! How do you stop from catching tuberculosis? Keep people
with tuberculosis out of your house and schools!
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Let's shut down America's borders. Let's stop all immigration. Let's give
ourselves a break. Let's take a moratorium. Our citizens deserve it. There
is no immigration allowed in China, India, Bangladesh, Russia, Japan, Cuba,
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Turkey and MOST other countries. Are they
suffering race riots, car burnings, language crisis and other problems from
immigration? Nope!
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But the fact is, we are and so are other First World countries. It's time to
shut down our borders and take care of our own people, our own country and
our own future.
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Old 01-19-2006, 11:06 PM
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you're an immigrant. why should you be given the chance, but not another?
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Old 01-20-2006, 10:51 AM
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First off you cant legally immigrate to canada without going through the whole points bullshit, You must have a GREAT education that is in need, great english or you must be filthy rich, either way its a boost to the economy.

My family immigrated from russia with two PHD engineering degrees from my mother and father, our family friends are all dentists, doctors, engineers, or other high end profession. The only legal immigrants you see here were somebody's back in their countries, you cant come over here if you were a nobody (or a "dummy" like you said)

The reason unemployment is so high is not because of immigration, it is in part because of refugees(prolly around 1%) and the rest is just because people here are too ing lazy and everybody smokes too much ing weed to become productive, also remember that out of those 7% at least 5% of the population is getting income from illigal sources(drug trafficing, working for cash etc. ) so its not as bad as it seems, ive been here 8 years now(citizen for 4), and never had a problem getting a job, if those 7% really want to work then they should of studied in a profession that is in demand.

Also read the papers the teech boom is coming back, IT job openings are at the highest since 2001 and growing, and the canadian dollar is on the rise, so dont blame the immigrants, its just another cycle in the economy. The programmers that probabley account for a very large sum of the unemployment need to forget about that profession, most of the programs were written and are stored in databases around the world, only a few needed to put those little programs together to form the system needed.

The matter of fact is that the manufacturing is moving away to India and pakistan, the only job that will remain in North america will be the higher end types of jobs, such as Marketing, Business Managment, supervisory, we are becoming a nervous center system of sorts for the global market, with 50% of the capital in the USA you really dont have much to worry about except to get a decent education in a higher end workforce.
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Haahahahahaa, I can't beleive this ing retard actually said "mindless dummies" and then linked that to immigrants. Looks like someone is an informed citizen with a big mouth.

If I were you I'd shut up before any more self-humiliation is done.
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This is lol

Imigrants are both good and bad depends where they are comming from .

Like I said before , If Einstein wouldn't have emigrated to the US , we'd all be speaking German ...


IvPerformance so you came from Russia . Makes sense for you to think that you can't emigrate any other way than by having great points .

The trouth is that , there's a lot less of us eastern euros here , to make a difference politically and to allow our own imigrating easily . However Indians and Pakistani's all they have to do is cough up a few tenths of thousands and they can bring their non english illiterate 20 member families to canada no problem . I heard that with 35 K in India , you get some guy come to your house , and live with you for a while teaching you how to behave when comming to canada ( apparently they leave out the part that to others curry smells like and it's unpolite to cook it daily for your 18 kids and asphixiate your neighbours ) . Then included in that price they set up the papers and get you going .

Midless dummys ... WHO delivers your pizza ... WHO puts your hamburger together ... WHO washes your car ... WHO pumps gas for you ? ... who drives you arround the city and cuts you off without signaling ?

Come on people , let's face it , look how many non euro imigrants are here with no education and that can't speak english . Imigrating to canada is EASY if you are part of a majority minority You just need to stick some money up some fat *** and u're on your way .

It's not as easy for the eastern euros though . When we came here , we needed los of points , we were interviewed in English , my Mother was interviewed in English on accounting topics ( she's an accountant ) , we needed to waive our rights to Wellfare , and proove that we had a large sum of money to bring into Canada .

Then they made us take the most comprehensive medical tests in the world , because in canada we play it safe eh ... That's why in Toronto we had the worst SARS infestation in the modern world .

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Stopping imigration from Asia WILL imrpoove work places for canadians in burger places , convenience stores and the like .

Stopping imigration from Europe WILL cripple this continent intellectually .

And before you think about dissing me , think that you're using a computer and electricity and you live in an appartment or a house , and you are typing in this language , and you just ... remember ... where all this came from ...

I'm anticipating you will say that PC's were invented here . True ... by a guy named : Steve Wozniak ... recognise the Polish last name ?

Phone was invented by a Canadian ... bullshit he emigrated from Scotland . . .

then IBM played a big part ... but do you know how much revenue IBM brought in from selling COUNTING MACHINES to the germans to count the concentration camps bodies .

Majour discoveries in electricity : Nikola Tesla ... Recognise the eastern european name ? maybe not since europe is on another planet and canada and the us take up the entire surface of this one , it's far eh ... at least what some baseball fans seem to think

Here;s a funny question ... who was responsible for the first TV transmission , that everybody is so addiccted to today

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oh ... one last thing

i'm not racist

What I say about asian imigrants ... it's really only about asian imigrants . . .


Because japanese people hardly ever need to emigrate and they are a very smart nation .

Same with well educated Chinese and Indians ... they don't need to imigrate , their lives are just dandy over there . HOWEVER , those who can't hack it there , the low class uneducated ones ... try to emigrate all over the place and make burgers and sell cigarettes .

And that's once again , not a generalisation , i feel sorry when saying this since i do have emigrant friends from both india and china ... because you can't generalise a group , but you can generalise 90% of them
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all these people that invented things like above the PC and the Phone...ask yourself why they couldn't do it in their own countries....wouldn't have happened

Canada is a great country its no surprise to me that the above article was written by an american americans are stupid plain and simple.... don't agree? wanna argue? ok i'll start my argument with their leader BUSH... end of arguement...

Canada is a great country BECAUSE of its multiculturalism and people who don't like it (Quebec) are only mad cuz they can't have special rights or privelages...

the only thing i can think of thats bad from "too much" immigration is that minority rights bestowed on minorities should be revoked once that minority becomes the majority......

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that's got nothing to do with where they were ...

all i'm saying is , look where the great minds come from .

all i'm saying is we have europe and europeans to thank for modern society and technology ... and NOBODY ELSE ( allthogh Japan caught up and nowdays is taking the lead )

so stoping imigration , like i said ... would criple this continent intellectually . We'd have a lot of unions for garbage cleaning and tow trucks , but it's not enough that we get the latest technology 2 - 3 years later than europe and asia , we'll then get it 10 - 20 years later

( of course that doesn't include Marijuana strains and genetically modified food to increase profits ... we'll allwais be first at that )
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Mindless dummies , ever get lost in toronto . Dont bother pulling in to a gas station / conveneance ( sp) store to ask for directions . Cause Janjaresh Goatmandu , or Hop lookylikeaman chowluk cant understand plain english. Cant read a map . Have no idea where they are . All they know is I getty on de bus , I tranzferrr. I getty offy de bus . I go to mcdonalds to worrk . I know eet eez a mcdonalds cause eet haz a beeg yellow curvt ting out front.
Yeah , your right , I just got back from T.O. 1/2 an hour ago ..77.
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um just wanna point out that some of the "immigrants" are doctors, lawyers, engineers, but do to retrictions of some canadian law or something (doctors especially), they are forced into another line of work (taxi driver, convieniene store etc.)
there was an article on this in the 24hrs once, this thread reminded me of it ...
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they should stop letting so many gindy's into canada and thats the bottom line.


2004 there was around 250,000 migrants into canada

about 34% were from india then
pakistan
srilanka
china

after that the numbers were in the hundreds and low thousands for other countries. whats the deal with that.

anytime i come back from a flight into pearson airport all of the canada customs agents are ali or javinter

give me a break. blame the liberals, whats the plan make a minority into a majority, it seems like it already in toronto and any other major city in canada.


good job.
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I think zapa said it best!... I agree 100% and yes there are a ton of mindless dummies out there. Buger joints are jobs for teenagers not 35 year old somalian or pakistani men. Give me a break. You can barley pull out to a tim hortons drive through in the GTA without hearing a east indian who can barely speak english on the other end. Its been proven that within 10 years immigration europeans almost 99% of the time adapt to our way of life. They are usually skilled people in the trades ,etc. If it wasent for europeans there would be nothing here. Italians , portugese , germans etc brought all of the skills here with many other euro cultures that I work with I have probibly left out.

A: what does someone from ethiopia have to offer to canada? because we let them in by the thousands every year. Better yet places like somalia which are in complete anarchy? do I want these people living next door to me? dont try to blab that they are all doctors and are forced to work at burger joints because thats a total crock. 1 out of 20 maybe doctors and thats all. Im gonna just sit back and laugh as the european majority drops in canada and things start to fall apart. When the makers of buildings ,roads ,bridges you name it leave.. Eveything the maker built will fall apart. DETROIT is a perfect example.
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don't stop immigration, just regulate it better.we essentially are a tribe here, (if you view the world as a global village like I do), and I want as many people in my tribe that can contribute and make us the best possible canada we can be. hard workers, innovators, leaders all great charachteristics we would want here to improve Canada for ALL of us.

I work with a variety of people, and everyone is an immigrant. I myself am only 1st generation canadian, and all my family immigrated From England. My Grandfather worked as an engineer for Phillips until he retired at 65, you can thank him for being one of the minds behind the modern day CD rom.

My father moved from a farm on dover to toronto, to open a printing business, and employ over 50 canadians his first year in the country. My parents both run a successful Antiques business, pay lots of taxes and live a good decent clean life. I am very proud of them for this. not everyone who moves to a country like Canada, does so much for themselves, and in turn the country.

the mistake is when we let people in, and provide FOR them, instead of them just being happy with the amazing opportunity we provide for them by allowing citizenship. I see people come over in droves, welfare fraud, EI fraud, and even folks coming over, getting jobs found by the gov't for them, gov't subsidized housing, and even getting vehicles.

I, a Canadain Born citizen went broke waiting for EI to kick in when I lost my job, which in turn added to my already bad credit, (given if I saved loot for a rainy day, I'd not be in that predicament in the first place, lesson learned), and gave me no chance of getting a car, or a home loan etc.

only to see someone who can't even speak english get a fuggin free ride on my tax dollar. I had to wait almost 2 months for my EI. yet the gov't is very quick to just take it off my chq. hell by the end they said they'd given me too much and clawed back MY OWN MONEY from my tax return.

How the hell can they treat their own citizensthis way, while making the country a fuggin hotel for someone who can't take the time to learn the damn language?


get the canadian citizens living on the streets into jobs and houses. take care of our own first, then if we have cleared that up, then let some more ppl in. Canadians need the help. they need the support, and to give that much needed help to an undeserving person who will do more than be a drain on the tribes resources, is a slap in the face to your own son's and daughters. The people of Canada deserve better than to have the gov't bring ppl in to secure votes. (i believe this is the root)

I'm all for immigration, just please, bring something to the table. This isn't a free lunch, I and all my fellow citizens pay for it.

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The biggest problem is that people from central asia (pakistan, india, all the arab middle eastern countries) have a problem assimilating, and the problem is that they just dont want to assimilate.

Eastern Europeans and anyone coming from a non-third world country come here knowing fully well that they are gonna have responsibilities and obligations (to pay taxes and work hard at educating their children, to name a couple)

But these ing refugees just come here expecting things to be handed to them. Of course there are good, honest, hard-working people, coming here as refugees as well, but these are rare cases, the majority is a bunch of leeches sucking the life out of this country.

I just think that the gov. should stop acting so righteous and stop letting refugees in for a while, and see if just maybe we can lower gun related crimes and gang activities a little bit.

And also have stricter immigration laws for anyone who wants to come legally from these third-world countries.
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