Useless Engine swaps
 

so we have shown pics and stories of crazy swaps that insane amounts of power for the car it was put in, now let see what absolutly useless swaps have been done?

ok so to start, there is a kid in my area that has a 91 teg, he took out his LS and put in a B16. now yes he gained about 30hp or so, but lost displacement and about 17ft/lbs of torque.

so if anyone reads kill stories, my 89 legend beat my friend 94 civic Si, then the other night, my friend with the Si raced the 91 teg, and needless to say the Si kicked A**, the teg is so slow it is embarrassing to know he paid "Tiger Japanese Auto Parts" $2600 for purchase and install. and let me tell you I had to fix so much crap that they did during install. I don't know who they have working for them but it is a complete hack job!!!!

so any other uselessness out there anyone knows of.

I've seen a MK2 golf with a Bug motor in it. But then again, it was in the back.

Its not fair to bash someone who is not present... You deal with engine swaps too, how would you like someone to bash your name behind your back while your name is all you have in this business?

hummer h2 with the vortec 6.0 taken out and 5.3 put in

Honda Tech, I knew a guy who did that exact swap. Took out the LS for a B16. Maybe it's the same guy. That is a pretty useless swap, considering the LS has more potential.

with 20 000 in your pocket and plans for turbo with lots of turbo knowledge in your head , the B16A2 is a better platform believe it or not .

Allthogh people would argue displacement and low compression of the LS to be more benefic for the turbo ( and it probably would be on a daily driver ) , when taken to the max the B16A2 outperforms by simply beeing a more advanced engine .

I remember this one computer manufacturer having dynos some 2 years ago , boosting a stock B16A2 at 7.5 PSI and getting 300 hp out of it . And then you can check most of the canadian 9 second civics from 2 years ago ... they were all B16 turbo ... not frankenstein , 2.0 , 1.8 or anything else .

btw stock civic 94 SI vs 91 teg with B16A2 ...
if the Si wins here , the teg driver doesn't know how to drive , or has REALLY shitty and big rims bling bling style

hes trying to save gas lol

Won't save much.

A HUGE factor of your gas consumption is the vehicles weight.

Compare a 3000lb 2.0L I4 coupe/sedan gas milleage to a 500hp LS7 vette. Not much difference.

^ The last 3000lb I4 car I drove got well over 30mpg... does the Corvette do that?

BTW, useless engine swap... anything swapped into a J-body is useless.

wow. didnt see that coming.
you prob know nothing about what can be swapped, but you are too ignorant to eve care.
am i correct?
douchebag.

holy s***, I thought for sure by the second page Stealth would have first said any car with a B16 swapped in was useless, but way to go B6T, you got to it first. hell ya! lol

oh and hey stealthy, what have u swapped in, anything???? lets see you line up against B6T's ride and then let see who is laughing. Douchebag

i felt that that b16 comment was implied, and didnt feel the need t0 post it. also, wow, that was the worst comment ever. ive swapped nothing...and your point is? not everyone needs to do a swap. we all dont drive si's with 100hp and 50lb/tq. now stfu and go back to your hole.

Who can point out what the problem is here?

there is no problem... i said something CAN be swapped, but i HAVE NOT, because i dont feel the NEED to do so. are you really that ****ing stupid?

If you haven't done a swap of any sort than you clearly have no clue how to do one like you stated you do.

There is a difference between reading on the internet how to do a swap and to actually physically do one yourself.

are you really that ****ing stupid?

so the guy I know with the useless teg raced the 94 Si again and finally beat him but by only a fender length, so my opinion stands that the swap was useless.

anything swapped into a J-body is useless
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says a guy with a festiva...

sorry just couldnt resist

wow, you are really showing that you are clearly a tool.
:appl:

so true
:appl:

Tell that to the 10 Second Turbo 3.8L Cavilers.

A festiva that can run circles around any street jbody in the gta.... :lmao: :lmao:

and how much money did they burn to get into the 10's with that?

any vids or pics

$450,000... youre a ****in tool, stfu, believe it or not j's can be made fast without spending 100's of thousands. imports are not the only cars that can be made fast. give it a rest and stop trying to make yourself look cool.

I don't think it's so much wether or not J-bodys can be made fast with swaps, because I'm sure you drop a cessna engine into one and run off of methyl alcohol then yes, it will be fast.

Its more that no matter how fast your cavailer is, people will still call you gay behind your back because your driving a cavalier.

you are seriously a brick! I said nothing of a 6 figure cost, I just asked how much, not how many hundreds of thousands of dollars it took F*** Job.
maybe I wasn't bashing, I was simply asking a question, maybe I just wanted to know what the bill would be to to such a thing.

your so quik to bash on people when were talking about cavs. just back up loser, I only asked question. so STFU!

I'm just geussing off the top of my head, but after the car minimum you're looking at $15,000. Not really that bad.

Don't get me wrong, when I see a J-body that's trying to be fast, most of them are rice though, I stil laugh.

of course everything can be made fast, i've seen (on video not in person) 12 second escalades and 10 second silverados with T76 6.0L (both street cars ... errr.. trucks).

The point is that like sky kid said, you'll still be driving a j-body.

so all the people riding in 12sec civics, its still just a civic. guess what a civic is, an economy car. whats so special about that?

I'd explain to you why I picked a Festiva as a project, but you wouldn't understand because your a dumb ass.

Probably the 2.8L, 3.1L, 3.3L, and 3.8L V6s... as well as the older HO Quad 4s used in the Beretta. And no, I never looked into what engines can be swapped into it because I'd never even consider owning that abortion of a car, let alone do any work to one. Fag.

haha, a festiva owner saying my cav is an abortion of a car...good one :thumbsup:

I've seen a berreta with a 4g63, a mid 80's chevelle with a 4g63, a g3 teg with a sohc 1.5, fb rx7 with a 305 and one with a 350. There are all kinds of swaps out there ppl do, why criticize? J-bodies could swap in the 3.8L sc motor that came in boneville's and work on that.

Another reason I say that J-body swaps are useless is because you never see a fast street driven J-body. Why don't you guys defending the J-body show us some popular swaps and the performance of the car after. If you did, maybe some of us would change our minds and attitudes towards those cars.

Yeah that really says something about your car :laugh:

how the **** a cavalier is an abortion. its not a racers car period
and i understand you trying to make something unique by choosing a festiva. but just like you said. even if its fast its still a festiva and people would be calling you gay behind your back

I don't care, the only people that would call me gay behind my back are the ones who drive slow cars so their opinion doesn't matter anyway. Otherwise, every person who has seen the actual car really like it and the people that know what they are talking about appreciate the work that went into it.

then yes someone could say that then we should appreciate the work gone into a 10's cavalier.

but I would appreciate the time, effort and money that went into something like that, just like I appreciate the work B6T went to, to have a 12's (I think) Ford Fiesta. but I have not seen a 10's cav before. so I and others here can't appreciate that.

and yes, I too have called the cav. an abortion before, and I also think the fiesta is sort of an abortion too, but the diff is... stealths abortion doesn't run 12's does it?

The difference between the Festiva (not Fiesta) and a 10 second Cavalier is that my Festiva exists, whereas this 10 second Cavalier was just mentioned by someone and never proven to actually exist.

10 sec cavs do exist, aswell as quite a bit 11 and 12 sec ones. will i make the effort to show you proof, no, it would be useless. you and your waste of metal festiva seem to think quite highly of yourself. get over yourself. you drive a festiva. its an abortion car. you know it, i know it, everyone else knows it. you chose to put thousands into that pile of you call a car. i on the other hand know better, and plan on getting a real car in my future, so dont see the need to impress a bunch of teenagers on an internet forum with a 12sec heap. you spent piles of money on a piece of car that most people jus laugh at. sure they say nice, its pretty quick, but when youre gone, they laugh and say what a gay piece of . have a nice day.

You're talking all this about my car, when you're the one whose driving the next worst thing. Know what the similarity between my car and your car is? They were both the cheapest car on the market when they were new... except the Festivas were actually retained their value because they lasted longer then 10 years because they didn't rot apart and that's a fact! I feel like a retard having to defend a Festiva but when it being compared to a J-body its a fair comparison. I never hyped my car up to be anything more then what it was... a POS with an engine swap and stiff suspension... you're the one whose blinded to the fact that your car is just as bad, having actually worked on both cars, I have proof to back this up this claim. You know nothing about the actual mechanics of your car, installing an intake and head unit is evidence of how much of an idiot you really are.