Used Viper, Supra, Vette or Cobra?
 

what do you guys think?

ive seen some insane prices on Supras latley, and some respectable ones on Vipers...

if you had a choice?

ill add is some other cars for choice as well.

were talking the 30K-55K range, not including tax.

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I've always wanted to rip around on a track with a Viper. Ever since they were dominating sports car series.

Vipers have such a sweet look.. but people always say "supras can make huge power"... but then again, if youre spending 35K you can get a newer cobra mustang and make 500HP...
But a viper seems to be in a league of its own..styling and NA power.

is it for a daily driver?

pick up a cheaper boxster and start modding :appl:

nah, a weekend fun car... :D
and wednesday night meets :laugh:

Exactly. If you ever get bored (i don't see how) you can always send it down to Henessy for a couple of weeks and get it back with a couple of turbos and a reliable 1000 HP.

gotta be the vette a viper is a bit much I think. A vette is gorgeous, fast and still a bit tasteful.

the rest, nothing sweeter than a KB Cobra :D

i thought TSR would all pick a supra :retard:

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interesting poll so far

I voted for the Viper. That would be one sweet ride to own. My second vote would go to the 03 Cobra.
I'd also love an 07 Cobra with which rumors have it will retail in the 50,000 dollar Canadian range.

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03 Black Z06
Price: $55,400
Mileage: 9,600 km
This, my friend, is what it's all about.

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1997 DODGE VIPER 10400 km $ 54,900.00


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2003 FORD MUSTANG Cobra Vert 551 km $ 49,995.00


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1995 TOYOTA SUPRA 62000 km $ 43,000.00

Viper. Fast, Looks good, and you'll pcik up more chicks with that car than any of the others.

yup :thumbsup

supras get 16 year old chix who watced F&F and think its coo! theyre overpriced and old...

mustang, poor mans sports car.. still , shitty made, shitty looks. overall .

vette... aftermarket sucks, over rated power.. over priced when compared to an 03cobra... still not a viper :D

viper, chick magnet :thumbsup ..nice NA power.. wicked looks. authentic sound.

WTF ?
Want a brand new 04? Try Kennedy Ford in Oakville. They have a silver vert for 40 G's, brand new !

That price is way out of whack on the one you posted. Christ, the new 07 Shelby Cobra is going to be a little more than that !! What a joke !

An 03 shouldn't fetch more than 33 K IMO.

Supercharged Z06 for me guys:) Corvette is better track car than a Viper. and defenatly better then Supra and Mustang.

go jump off a cliff and land on a cactus.

i want to delete my Z06 reference. how disrespectful of u :knock_tee :laugh:

also, i doubt anyone is going to agree with u on that dumbass aftermarket comment.

personally, i wouldnt take another ford. Theyre so shitty, especially the older foxes..better yet, the only time Ford has created a good mustang was in 2003. Other than that they could never compete with their rivals; underpowered mustangs :smilie_da
If the supra's werent so overpriced, i would take one over an old mustang or older vette of 93, but 30K for a 93 supra is INSANE!

And a 97 supra vs stang, easily take the supra.. 97 supra vs viper, take the viper... mustangs are todays Honda Civics... Except honda motors are still better than ford... and make more HP per displacement.

Viper is just a hot machine, itll turn more heads any day of the week than the other 3.

and the LS aftermarket is WAY overpriced. it sucks

viper.....nuff said

oh man... for a weekend fun car, A supra would be garbage. the mustang isnt really that fun without mods, and a vette, well you would get used to it


that leaves the Viper. You get looks and its a killer off the line. Like sokmeone said, style and N/A power= true love but then again insurnace on one of these is killer

gotta go with the vette it corners a lot better!

if youre buying a 30-55K USED sports car, youre not worried usually about insurance or gas prices. :D

exactly... why get a Daily drive like the Mustang, or stang then mod it... or a shitty overpriced supra and shove a ton of mond to make it fast and reiable. Get a fast, styles car that has a ton of potential... think if you can make a 6cyl Supra 1000HP... henessy can make a 10cyl Viper 1400 HP ;)

as for handleing the viper isnt that good, but why would you need handling if your in a viper... Straight line racer :)

saw one getthihng serviced at my buddies shop world fine cars... and wow, its nice. nice 10 inch tires on the back.. nice engine bay... i thought i was nicer than the 10 M3's, and porchses sitting around.

Utter bullshit.

no used 911 option?

'Vette

I disagree. Ford played the market in a very well planed out way. In the 80's and early part of the 90's, the Mustang walked anything GM produced all day, everyday. Since GM introduced the LS1 those statistics changed, stock for stock. GM kept their new motor quiet whereas ford passed out blueprints to any aftermarket maunfacturers that were interested in producing performance parts. Ford only screwed up in this department when they introduced the 4.6 modular motor, and only hurt themselves, much like GM did.
This is where your comment about the Vette and LS1 powerplant in particular, are true. The LS1 was kept hush hush. There was zero aftermarket available for the LS1 only up until recemtly, and still the aftermarket scene pales in comparison to what's offered for Ford. This was one good reason the F-Body died. IMO Ford make and have always made an excellent product in the Mustang. It's a long lasting tradition that has ALWAYS stood the tests of time.
Take a look at GM shares right now. I feel bad for anyone that still owns any.

Supra

Maybe the 305 f-bodies... Nos so much the vettes, syclones, turbo trans am's, grand nationals... well the rest of them

correction, LT1. Since the LT1, the chevys have been blowing the doors off similarly priced fords.. the LS1 opened up the gap even more.

I doubt that the lack of genIII aftermarket has ANYTHING to do with GM shares... you're talking about a small niche vehicles that have little impact on the entire company. Plus the genIII was introduced in affordable form in 98 and then dissapeared a few years later. How long have the mod-motors been in the mustang?

Since when have Mustangs and F-bodies been similarly priced?

within 5k... close enough
what else is in the pony car segment? i mean really what else is there? mustang, camero, firechicken. thats it. and now it's just the mustang... unless you consider that turd of a charger a pony car

yeah sure if you're trying to eliminate the competition post a pic of one of the ugliest supras i've ever seen. rice is bad, even on a supra, it's bad.

here's a better example :D

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(sorry if it had to be off autotrader, but that's just one i had lyin around... much better don't you think)

Well its a close call between the vettez06 and the viper for me. Im not even going to talk about the other choices lol.

That pic of the Blue viper looks like its a GTS which is a damn nice ride. It definately beats the vette in the looks category same with performance also.


But stock parts on the viper are rediculously expensive and i dont even wanna know what aftermarket will cost. For Both rides repairing parts would be costly but it all depends on how much u can afford to put into your car.


I hope when i turn 25 and my insurance drops to able to afford a used viper or vette. It was tobe triple black though just like all my cars :la:

Never. In fact back in the 80's and early 90's when Stangs were walking F-Bodies, the Mustang fetched a price that was less than half of that of a similar Camaro or Fireturd. I remember a friend of mine picking up a new 89 LX for 13 G's out the door. You could get an LX for 11 G's back then. The Camaro's were still in the 25 G price range.

LT1'S were not walking Mustangsl. I disagree. Most LT1'S in stock form were a 14 second car at best, just like a Mustang.

I didn't mean the lack of F-Bodies in particular. The lack of aftermarket availability for them didn't help though. I meant the lack of GM producing anything !
What has GM produced in the sports car department that's affordable for the average person ? The Vette ? They price themselves out right of the market with anything they make anyway, just like they did with the F-Body.
What's this SSR, or whatever it's called, pickup truck thingy ? It's ugly and for 80 G's before taxes it's all yours ! LOL !
That's why their shares are going down like a truck stop hooker.

I'm not quite sure about that one. When you turn 25 and if you choose to drive something as fast/expensive as a Z06 or Viper your age-based discount will be offset by the car...know what I mean?

Well im not too sure about that one. My sis friend has a c5 and he pays a significantly low price for insurance and hes 26. I think if you have a clean record(which i do) it should drop a fair amound im hoping.

Again, I dont think the 'sports car' thing had anything to do with it. Unions killed GM in the early 90's. Less money was available for product development. The regal and everything on that platform didn't sell anywhere near what GM thought they would. Trucks were more expensive, albeit better in the long run.

Now as far as the vette goes, it's always been removed from all the other GM cars. The C5 cost something like 150 mil to bring to production. Thats dirt cheap considering the GENIII tech that trickled down into the trucks, and the hydroforming process (that is now used by daimler). Not to mention good C5 sales and the beating they gave ferarri in every race the two met.

Anyways... the f-bodies are dead but that doesnt matter. Next year the solstice and sky are coming out, aimed right at the miata (which is pretty much the best selling sports car of all time). And by the looks of the solstice and the upcoming miata, you'd have to be a grade A moron to buy the miata. It looks worse, has less power and is a unibody car as opposed to a mini-corvette architecture of the solstice. Is it going to steal mustang sales like the camaro did? Probably not. But I bet that alot of the chicks that would normally be buying the 6cyl stangs will look at the solstice. It's less practical, but arguably 'cuter.'

I'll give you the SSR thing. That leaves me scratching my head.

C5's are cheap to insure. Probably as much as an SRT4 or similar turd.

It seems that GM's future in North America may be coming to an end, at least from an employment perspective.
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