affordable mid engine cars
09-09-2005, 12:49 AM
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Go with the MR2, much better cars, even if you get the older one, prior 91, great cars. Fiero's ignition systems are a mess, many problems. MR2s are rare but very nicely built cars, quick too. They also come in a supercharged version. Check out some boards, there is a local MR2 board. good luck, btw I saw an MR2 for sale on fouth line or thompson, just off of Derry in Milton. Good condition, I think he wants around 5000 for it, said it was stored inside for a long time, very low kms, and he's throwing a load of parts. Any way good luck.
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09-09-2005, 10:45 AM
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You aren't leaving yourself with many options... there are really only three mid-engine cars that are affordable, the Fiero, and the two generations of MR2.
I wouldn't get a Fiero. There is way more aftermarket for the MR2s, the MR2s are probably lighter and probably held together longer then a Fiero of the same age anyway. Why swap a V8 into a Fiero when you can swap a 3SGTE into a Mk1 MR2 (if you know what you're doing) and have a car that won't catch fire, doesn't look like its interior was designed by blind people, and runs 12's with the stock swapped engine.
I wouldn't get a Fiero. There is way more aftermarket for the MR2s, the MR2s are probably lighter and probably held together longer then a Fiero of the same age anyway. Why swap a V8 into a Fiero when you can swap a 3SGTE into a Mk1 MR2 (if you know what you're doing) and have a car that won't catch fire, doesn't look like its interior was designed by blind people, and runs 12's with the stock swapped engine.
09-09-2005, 05:53 PM
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LMFAO you guys that knock the fiero crack me up.First off there is no problems with the fieros ign system it uses the same basic drivetrain used it most other GM fwd cars of its time. 84s had a issue with the oil pan being too small I cant remember exacley but somthing about oil spilling on the cat and causeing a fire.There was also a recall on this so the ones that didnt go in for the recall were at the risk of a fire.Secondly the fieros space frame design is FAR more advanced then the MR2 on top of which there are more fieros on the road today they 1st gen MR2s most are rotted to crap.The fiero also has it in the looks department with the GT model.For engine swaps from other MR2 owners ive talked to (most are pretty good guys and arent ignorant towards the fiero) its almost not worth the price to put anything else in.With the fiero you have a long line of great swaps that are fairly easy to install.Want a screamer? drop in a 3.4DOHC or if you have the cash a northstar also bolts up to the fieros tranny.Want a cheap low cost swap thats reliable everyday and will get you around in decent numbers on the street? drop in a 3.4 pushrod its almost a direct drop in.Want the V8 tq and sound? buy the V8 kit and drop a SBC.The best performer of all for cost is the 3800sc series I or series II which can be done for under 9k cdn.
You talk about fieros interior yeah its not all that great the first concept was made in the late 70s what did you expect? Its not like the first gen MR2S interior is anything to write home about gotta love those cardboard door panels.I have sat in both and im willing to bet the build quality of the fiero interior matches and in some areas beats the MR2.
"This car is so good looking it's almost indecent."
John McCormick, AutoWeek 1986 Pontiac fiero GT
If you want a blend of price,reliability and speed/handleing the fiero is your awsner you can do many things with these cars.They are going up in price so dont expect to find a decent fastback for under 4k. I have owned my 87GT for 5 years now and this is speaking from experiance.If your really interested one of my good buddys has the fastest stock fiero GT ever recorded with almost 200,000k on the motor im sure he would be willing to take you for a rip in his and see for yourself, he has the best E/T of 14.7 only mods being a power pulley.
Those who choose to hate on the fiero without knowing the facts just need to shut up and stop ing ignorance.
very sweet
You talk about fieros interior yeah its not all that great the first concept was made in the late 70s what did you expect? Its not like the first gen MR2S interior is anything to write home about gotta love those cardboard door panels.I have sat in both and im willing to bet the build quality of the fiero interior matches and in some areas beats the MR2.
"This car is so good looking it's almost indecent."
John McCormick, AutoWeek 1986 Pontiac fiero GT
If you want a blend of price,reliability and speed/handleing the fiero is your awsner you can do many things with these cars.They are going up in price so dont expect to find a decent fastback for under 4k. I have owned my 87GT for 5 years now and this is speaking from experiance.If your really interested one of my good buddys has the fastest stock fiero GT ever recorded with almost 200,000k on the motor im sure he would be willing to take you for a rip in his and see for yourself, he has the best E/T of 14.7 only mods being a power pulley.
Those who choose to hate on the fiero without knowing the facts just need to shut up and stop ing ignorance.
very sweet
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09-10-2005, 07:50 AM
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The fiero in your picture is a 87-88 coupe.They were opted with the same engine as the GT and are a bit lighter to boot.If its a 88 it has a redesigned brake and suspention.There isint much difference at all other then looks.I do belive the ratio in the steering rack is not a good as the GT model.I have seen a few done up and they look good.Im not a fan of the 84-86 base coupe with the ghey black bumper pads.
I do however like the 85 GT CPE
I do however like the 85 GT CPE
09-10-2005, 12:22 PM
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the mk1 mr2 isnt all that the supercharged model has a bit of ba;; but not much the mk2 turbo whihc is the model from 91-97 it comes wit about 220hp at low boost but if u dial the boost up u could take out a couple of vettes,n porsches, the 3sgte engine which is on the celica and mr2 is a bike engine designed n made by yamaha but the j-spec 3sgte has better flow on the head and the north american doesnt have as good of a flow in the head but can hold more oil...over all the mk2 mr2 is a good buy it looks good n is fast stock and they arent that expensive for wat u r gettin
09-10-2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 100%rice
the mk1 mr2 isnt all that the supercharged model has a bit of ba;; but not much the mk2 turbo whihc is the model from 91-97 it comes wit about 220hp at low boost but if u dial the boost up u could take out a couple of vettes,n porsches, the 3sgte engine which is on the celica and mr2 is a bike engine designed n made by yamaha but the j-spec 3sgte has better flow on the head and the north american doesnt have as good of a flow in the head but can hold more oil...over all the mk2 mr2 is a good buy it looks good n is fast stock and they arent that expensive for wat u r gettin
09-12-2005, 01:36 PM
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I would choose the MR2 over a Fiero any day. I used to love the look of the Fieros GT but after doing my research I change my mind. 3 months after the Fiero was first realeased there was an alert sent as the car set on fire. First this was only due to the antifreeze leeking onto the exhaust pipes(badly installed hoses). This wasn't the only reason, the connecting rod was defective, 1-4 rods in every 10 were defective. Due to way the blocks were designed some leaked oil or coolant. Also, some of the electrical fans were wired backwards 
There were warnings sent to dealers about oorly installed radiator hoses, leaky gaskets and bad wiring. Due to the money lost between lawsuits and warranty cars, and car repairs, and lack of sales, 1200 night shift workers were laid off in the Fiero plant in 1987. In September 1987, the car was finally recalled to REDUCE the fire hazard. All they did was install a new oil filter that held more oil and to legally cover themselves they put a sticker near the gas tank that said "Check engine oil at every fuel fill". After all the effort that was put in to fix the problem the Fiero was discontinued as GM wasn't making any money off the Fiero. In December 1989 GM recalled all 4 cylinder Fieros and then four months later they recalled all 4 and 6 cylinder Fieros.
Now after knowing that I wouldn't presonally purchase a Fiero, but that's just little old me.
Good luck nissannut!!!
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There were warnings sent to dealers about oorly installed radiator hoses, leaky gaskets and bad wiring. Due to the money lost between lawsuits and warranty cars, and car repairs, and lack of sales, 1200 night shift workers were laid off in the Fiero plant in 1987. In September 1987, the car was finally recalled to REDUCE the fire hazard. All they did was install a new oil filter that held more oil and to legally cover themselves they put a sticker near the gas tank that said "Check engine oil at every fuel fill". After all the effort that was put in to fix the problem the Fiero was discontinued as GM wasn't making any money off the Fiero. In December 1989 GM recalled all 4 cylinder Fieros and then four months later they recalled all 4 and 6 cylinder Fieros.Now after knowing that I wouldn't presonally purchase a Fiero, but that's just little old me.
Good luck nissannut!!!
-Arslan