For All Of You Hoping For Cheaper Gas
 

It aint gonna happen...

We've passed the point of affordable gas..

Expect it to only get worse from here till the end fossil fuels on earth.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4191683.stm

Meanwhile those @#$%'s in Venezuela still pay .05 - .10 a litre for gas....AND if you do the conversion from Canadian litres to US Gallons and the Exchange Rate we're getting hosed compared to the US too. :smilie_da

The only people that are gonna have a great time with this..

The countries that export the oil.

That's about it..

How can you compare? Of course its cheap there, but look how people live (where the oil is refined, not the states)..

We have it ing EASY over here, in Europe, its MUCH higher then we've ever seen..and it's going up there too..

If the consumption of fuel continues to rise as it has in the past (extrapolating) from where we are now, we'll be out of fuel in 20 years. Makes looking into a hybrid a much nicer option.

hybrids.

anything where you have to depend on someone.

They should start coming out with cars that are solar powered, and have quickly regenerative batteries.

Why depend on someone for your fuel needs anymore?

Those oil companies, how much money have they made since the 10s or the 20s? Trillions? Thousands of Trillions? Who knows..

ing useless.

gas is going to hit record highs this summer, and probably new record highs the summer after that. its just going to get worse and worse. i've also herd that we could run out of oil in our life time, and if thats true than we got bigger things to worry about than putting gas in our cars. the world runs on oil.

Ah the apocalypse :)

Time to get that Geo Metro.

Oil isn't going to run out.

Some more BS by environmental groups that oil companies picked up on to justify ridiculous prices.

Oh well. Deal with it. Theres no point in getting angry over something you can't control or have no influence over.

I should have quantified that statment.

Oil isn't going to run out anytime soon

You're right the supply is still ok. We aren't in a crisis...yet. and there is still a huge supply that is still untapped. but its just in remote locations.

Exactly..we're all going to have to end up conserving in the end though..

OK fine forget about Venezuela look at the U.S., they're oil prices are lower than ours and they DON'T have more oil than us. That I can attest to. If you disagree, maybe you should head out to Alberta or Northern Saskatchewan, to the athabaskan tar sands. That's a friggin lake filled with oil and sand.

Hybrids too. Until they come out with a car that pumps out 300hp running on something other than Oil I'd never buy one.

Already happened, there are companies which electric cars and some of them are faster then ferarri. :) range is too small, (300km) that's the only problem. and they cost alot up to 200K

good thing canadia has lots of oil saved up for a rainy day

umm,maybe ur a bit selfish making a statement like this. u shouldnt complain about anything when u have such high demands. sumtimes being realistci doesnt hurt.

I'll never replace my pistons and turbo with wiring and an electric motor.

This is getting rediculous... not only are we getting raped by insurance companies, we're getting raped (even harder) by the gas companies too. Is there anything anyone can do, or do we just have to bend over and take it up the ass?

You can always launch a "protest" and take the bus to work.

No one will care..i doubt anyone will notice either.

There's nothing we can do.

And im not even pissed off about the gas prices so much as i am at HOW rapidly they change and how violent the changes are..

It goes from like 77 to 86 in like a couple of hours..

Can someone please explain why the they pull that bullshit?

To desensitize you so you will stop caring.

...and it works...

gas prices are all bullshit and the whole story of running out of oil is bullshit too like said they just put that story in the air to support higher gas prices.


and if oil were to run out im sure they would be able to make a synthetic or chemical substitute that would work just the same as oil or gasoline but there is too much money to be made right now on refining and transport and selling to start selling man made fuels. we can send a in dumbass to the moon im sure we can make fuels that will power internal combustion engines the same as fossil fuel.


politics are :supergay:

STFU :smilie_fi

High demands.... :smilie_au

well i geuss were just gonna have to hop on a bike and ride like the wind in china... do you think we will need insurance for that as well? :confused:

listening to the 680 news buisness report a few weeks ago
exxon reported RECORD BREAKING profit margin for the 2004 year, as in, no proceeding time in history did they make more money...

rich get richer boys... and im sure this trend is similar through out the other major oil affiliates/producers
people are making a KILLING up top, and the wealth is concentrated up there...
and it doesnt matter if you take your buisness from the shell on one corner to the esso across from it, its more or less the same class of people becoming richer beyond their wildest dreams.
cant believe this is what the world is coming to

we need to stop street racing...take up another hobby.

cooking? stitching?

I got into street racing to stay away from drugs, crime, gangs. So I guess it's back to the drugs, crime and gangs for me. :thumbsup

The richest oil deposits are the tar sands all along the western north american mountain ranges. They have more oil in them than all the oil pumped out of the ground EVER.

Problem is - it costs about $4 a litre to process it into gasoline currently.

Some of the largest coal deposits in the world are in the north eastern portion of north america. You can make oil from coal using a relatively easy process.

Problem is - it costs about $6 a litre to make coal into gasoline.

Those giant mountains of used tires have millions of barrels of oil tied up in them. They are actually starting to recycle them into oil and steel, but the cost is still high.

We have tons of researve of oil. Its just that the easily reached and refined oil is getting harder to get.

When it gets economically feasible, they will start mining the tar sands, and the coal fields for fuel. Or we will be getting fuels with larger and larger percentages of ethanol which renewable, relatively cheap, and can be made here with no having to rely on outside help.

I ran about 50/50 gas/ethanol and it ran fine, it also reduced the emissions a lot.

Gas company are probably run by the same people that runs the insurance company.. we can complain all we want but they know in the end we need it so we're screwed

lol.. and that little sticker they put on the pumps that they make 2% profit, we will actually learn they make a huge % profit.. like we did with insurance.

All in all, we have done well. It was 2 summers ago they were predicting gas to be over 80.. and now we are hitting those numbers now.. today i filled up the car at 85.5 at petro..... The most i have paid though was 103.6.

2% profit my ass.. they think we all drive big inefficient 60-70's 3 tonne cars that takes $10 of gas to warm up??

I think the pump station only makes 2% of it is more accurate..

Well we could all move to Brazil and drive cars on alcohol.

or just move to china and have little chinamen pull us around...

http://money.cnn.com/2005/03/13/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes

ABU DHABI (Reuters) - Two of OPEC's leading Gulf producers say the cartel may agree to keep pumping above formal oil output quotas to cool down overheated markets.

The United Arab Emirates Sunday joined Kuwait in suggesting the producer group might take such a decision as U.S. oil prices again threaten to breach $55 a barrel.

"The decision may be to maintain current production levels with the aim of calming the market," UAE Oil Minister Mohamed al-Hamli said in a statement issued ahead of a March 16 OPEC meeting in Isfahan, Iran.

Hamli did not specify how much the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries is now producing, but a Reuters survey showed 10 members excluding Iraq pumping 600,000 bpd above an official 27 million barrels per day (bpd) ceiling in February.

His Kuwaiti counterpart Sheikh Ahmad al-Fahd al-Sabah, also OPEC president, acknowledged Saturday that sky-high oil prices have tempted some members to exceed their quotas.

"I think that now everybody is overproducing," he said. "Current prices make it lucrative for everybody to hike production without the need for an (official) decision."

Neither minister saw signs of tightening oil supplies and Hamli suggested stockpiles could even build by 2 million bpd during the second quarter. Oil inventories typically rise then as demand declines following the northern hemisphere winter.

"That shows clearly the abundance of supplies and lack of shortage," said Hamli.

Output increase
OPEC members Iran, Qatar, Venezuela and Algeria have come out in favor of keeping output steady, with Algeria's minister saying last week that OPEC had no spare capacity to lift quotas.

The two Gulf Arab ministers disagreed with the Algerian assessment, with Kuwait saying the cartel had 2 million bpd to spare.

While most OPEC members are pumping at full tilt, swelling total cartel output including Iraq to about 29.5 million bpd, Gulf producers the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia still have a sizeable production cushion.

They will shoulder the burden of any further supply increases, whether or not officially sanctioned.

"I think if the prices will continue like this, OPEC's ... behavior will be like 2004 and we will make sure we will do something to stabilize the prices," said the Kuwaiti oil minister.

OPEC raised its official output ceiling by 3.5 million bpd during the second half of last year, but the core Gulf producers -- especially Saudi Arabia -- took responsibility for the increase.

Booming demand growth in China and the United States has piled pressure on OPEC to expand output capacity.

And the UAE oil minister said the cartel is rising to the challenge.

"Many OPEC members, including the UAE, are currently investing to increase production capacity to meet any increase in future oil demand or any supply shortage," said Hamli.

The UAE's capacity is expected to increase by 200,000 bpd to 2.7 million bpd during the second half of 2005.

Top world exporter Saudi Arabia has plans in place to hoist capacity by 2.3 million bpd by 2009. The kingdom's current production capacity is 11 million



In otherwords. Petro, Shell, Sunoco, Esso and Canadian Tire are just being assholes about gas prices.

^^^ exactly that
look at it this way, they fist your ass a week at a time, and then they drop the prices a little, replacing said fist with a dick. that leaves most people feeling "man, thank god they dropped to under 80 cents now" but regardless, you are still left being dicked in the ass. its a big in game making those cocksuckers richer then ever

theyve said gas is going to stay over a dollar for years, but it hasnt yet. im not worried.

I burn the Gas those Hybrids save

itll b almost 1.50 for reg gas ....... and thats gonna b a kick in the nuts for all you truck boys

yea.. this is really disapointing.. the prices are absurd!