Blower situation- what to do...
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Blower situation- what to do...
It would appear as though my Procharger will be too small to feed my motor to what it can actually handle. But being that I am building the motor this year, and the addition of the Moser 9", my pockets and wallet have been used and abused to their breaking point this winter/spring.
I have been considering going with a nice D-1 blower, but I am thinking of going more of the turbo route and getting more into what I love- fabricating. I have seen many different turbo set-ups on the LT1's and just about every one looks like fun. A Garret T-76 is what I am aiming towards getting to give me the boost that my motor will be lacking.
Or- I could just see what I can twist out of my charger and squirt a little juice in there for the additional air and make some more power. I am sure the motor can handle the 12 lbs of boost and a 100-150 shot on top of that without any worries of stuff breaking below.
So- anyone have some ideas- either be content with power I have and spend the money more on looks, (not too likely), keep my blower and put some juice on it too, swap out my blower for a D-1, or take out the blower completely and run a turbo set-up.
This isn't a money is no object question either...I figure either way its going to be another grand for any of those options, just not sure which direction to take..all of them sound appealing in some way or another.
I have been considering going with a nice D-1 blower, but I am thinking of going more of the turbo route and getting more into what I love- fabricating. I have seen many different turbo set-ups on the LT1's and just about every one looks like fun. A Garret T-76 is what I am aiming towards getting to give me the boost that my motor will be lacking.
Or- I could just see what I can twist out of my charger and squirt a little juice in there for the additional air and make some more power. I am sure the motor can handle the 12 lbs of boost and a 100-150 shot on top of that without any worries of stuff breaking below.
So- anyone have some ideas- either be content with power I have and spend the money more on looks, (not too likely), keep my blower and put some juice on it too, swap out my blower for a D-1, or take out the blower completely and run a turbo set-up.
This isn't a money is no object question either...I figure either way its going to be another grand for any of those options, just not sure which direction to take..all of them sound appealing in some way or another.
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We just finished a car at the shop that had the exact same problem, the engine was way to big for the blower and it couldn't keep up. it had a 347 stroker and a powerdyne supercharger, but the charger was too small we could only make like 6 pounds of boost and we were spinning it 10% above what it was supposed to be spinning. the car made a modest 450hp, but if i had a larger supercharger that thing would have made around 550hp. the thing with superchargers is it takes i think 10% of your hp to run it. turbos don't require any hp to run, and especially if you are looking to fab a lot of the parts for the turbo i also think it would be the less expensive route to go. you could build the intake, the intercooler pipes,the exhaust, the headers, or the flange. plus i think it would be a lot more fun building a turbo set up than just bolting on a supercharger. but thats just my 2 cents.
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If it was me I'd build the turbo kit. I've actually been looking into building one for my car, it really won't be that hard for you since you'll already have all the fueling issues covered and you alreay have an intercooler.
Plus you could then sell your procharger and get some money back.
Plus you could then sell your procharger and get some money back.
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yea id go turbo... its alot of work but u said u love fabracation sooo thats not too big of a porblem... i also think saying you have turbo lt1 sounds like it is alot meaner then a s/c one... IMO
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The turbo sounds like the way to go. It also sounds like you would enjoy building the turbo setup. You might as well build something to be proud of that you did yourself rather than making due with something that you will regret. The added power should help the decision also.
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Originally Posted by 69z-28
yea go turbo and sell me your procharger kit
Not sure if I would sell just the head unit or sell the ATI complete with the front mount stuff that I fabricated..either way though it looks like it might be for sale next spring though..
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Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
Start saving your nickels and we can talk...
Not sure if I would sell just the head unit or sell the ATI complete with the front mount stuff that I fabricated..either way though it looks like it might be for sale next spring though..
Not sure if I would sell just the head unit or sell the ATI complete with the front mount stuff that I fabricated..either way though it looks like it might be for sale next spring though..
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Originally Posted by ProjectCamaro
I'd just sell the parts you won't need for the turbo.
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Originally Posted by V6Cam
Well wouldnt he have to get a new intercoller if he got a bigger turbo...being the intercooler he has was probly, im guessing was only rated for the Procharger kit...
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Originally Posted by Mikerock
Not necessarily, as long as its not tiny, and if i remember right its quite the size. all an intercooler does it transfer cold air from the intercooler into the intake and into the turbo. As long as you have a good surface area it should be alright. but then again, intercoolers aren't terribly expensive.
An intercooler's job is slightly different from what you posted- its easiest to think of it as a radiator for your forced induction system. It cools the air back down after the heat created due to being compressed. So just like you can run a small radiator on your car for a while and be fine, but once everything heats up it can't cool down fast enough and becomes heat soaked..same principal applies to intercoolers.
So, if and when my charger goes down the road- the intercooler will be right alongside it...
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Originally Posted by FORCE_FED_Z
My intercooler is the 2-core one from ATI and it works well with the 600b, but will probably be small with the boost levels I am looking to run. The intercooler has to be big enough to support the CFM of air moving thru it. The more boost, the more surface area is needed to cool the air back down.
An intercooler's job is slightly different from what you posted- its easiest to think of it as a radiator for your forced induction system. It cools the air back down after the heat created due to being compressed. So just like you can run a small radiator on your car for a while and be fine, but once everything heats up it can't cool down fast enough and becomes heat soaked..same principal applies to intercoolers.
So, if and when my charger goes down the road- the intercooler will be right alongside it...
An intercooler's job is slightly different from what you posted- its easiest to think of it as a radiator for your forced induction system. It cools the air back down after the heat created due to being compressed. So just like you can run a small radiator on your car for a while and be fine, but once everything heats up it can't cool down fast enough and becomes heat soaked..same principal applies to intercoolers.
So, if and when my charger goes down the road- the intercooler will be right alongside it...