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Old 01-28-2007, 10:32 PM
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ls in a 93 hatch si?

hey guys im just wonder for my car i was thinking to put an ls into my car since is decent power i plan to put a light weight fly wheel stage 3 clutch header, full 2 1/4" exughst, port and polish, and i should be running pretty fast but i want to go faster i want to get at least low 14 and mabye if i go all out high 13but for now low 14 any sugestions on how i should go about doing it without spending alot like my buget is about a grand to put into the motor any suggetions would be great thanks
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get a set of cams. there's a set of Crower 403's for sale on Toronto Integras. you're best bet is to get it breathing better. work on getting more top end power since that's where the LS lacks. i also suggest boring out your TB, get an IM (even just a stock b16 would help. just get it matched to the size of the TB if you bore it out) and get a 4-1 header. $1000 might not be enough

get a set of cams. there's a set of Crower 403's for sale on Toronto Integras. you're best bet is to get it breathing better. work on getting more top end power since that's where the LS lacks. i also suggest boring out your TB, get an IM (even just a stock b16 would help. just get it matched to the size of the TB if you bore it out) and get a 4-1 header. $1000 might not be enough

i just realized that a b16 IM may or may not fit on the LS head. i heard they do tho....anyways, if they do, there's a guy on the board selling a b16 IM and TB for $40. http://www.gtcars.ca/online/car-part...cu-intake.html send this out to Maxbore.com and for a total of under $250 you've got and upgraded intake setup. just some food for thought

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oh i have a chipper so im going to chip the out of it, what if i put some high compression pistons not to high though like 11:1 or something? then do cams and all that thanks
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I would source a vtec head ...b16 or gsr and swap heads. This might be slighty over your $1000 mark with buying the head and all the supporting parts, but i think its better in the end. If your going to keep the stock head integra mark has the right idea of trying to make it breathe better.
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ok im scratching the piston idea. Ok this is what i probly going to do let me know what you think. ok crower cams probably stage 1, valve spring, retainers, and valves then pnp, light weight fly wheel and stage 2 clutch, chip the out of it with crome, header, intake, full 2 1/4 exaughst, msd external coil, light weight pully kit, and the little bolt ons ie fuel rail, pressure regulator ect i think thats it. but I think that should run good let me know what u guys think? why time at the 1/4 mile should i excpect and hp/tq thanks for the help
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I think you first need to get away from the ricer lifestyle...Bolt on this and that isnt gonna do anything for you...
You definately dont know anything bout engines cuz your stating the stupidiest things ive heard to make HP the way your planning...
$1000 ISNT gonna get you much...
Definately dont waste your money on stage 1's wont last long due to lack of potential...
These are the cams I would suggest to you going that route...
http://crower.com/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?prod_id=62403-2

Springs and retainers are a must thats kindda your choice if it can take what those cams are putting out Skunk2 makes them crower crane toda blah blah endless

Since the heads getting disassembled ask for a 3 or 5 (better) angle valve job and porting and polishing Match port the LS intake manifold and Bore the TB and match bore the IM...Now...Decent header ITR header is fine...
THIS IS WHERE THE POWER IS GONNA BE MADE FOR YOUR EXPECTATIONS YOU DONT NEED ALL THE BULLSH!T YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE...decent CAI i Would say drop in the 255LPH Walbro its cheap $130-140 new maybe a FPR just to bump it a bit and yes some ECU tuning would be great...
A light weight flywheel is a NO NO...waste for as quick as you'll rev is as quick as your rev's will drop get maybe a stock ITR flywheel good flywheel and match that with a good clutch stage 3 (is this grand turismo tuning center)go with a clutchmasters or equivalent, custom exhaust 2 1/4" high flow cat and resonator to an ITR axleback if you can find it sweet muffler and your purring your way to low 14's maybe a high 13 with a great suspension and some more BS or save your money and spray the bitch!
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Originally Posted by 79camaro
I think you first need to get away from the ricer lifestyle...Bolt on this and that isnt gonna do anything for you...
You definately dont know anything bout engines cuz your stating the stupidiest things ive heard to make HP the way your planning...
$1000 ISNT gonna get you much...
Definately dont waste your money on stage 1's wont last long due to lack of potential...
These are the cams I would suggest to you going that route...
http://crower.com/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?prod_id=62403-2

Springs and retainers are a must thats kindda your choice if it can take what those cams are putting out Skunk2 makes them crower crane toda blah blah endless

Since the heads getting disassembled ask for a 3 or 5 (better) angle valve job and porting and polishing Match port the LS intake manifold and Bore the TB and match bore the IM...Now...Decent header ITR header is fine...
THIS IS WHERE THE POWER IS GONNA BE MADE FOR YOUR EXPECTATIONS YOU DONT NEED ALL THE BULLSH!T YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE...decent CAI i Would say drop in the 255LPH Walbro its cheap $130-140 new maybe a FPR just to bump it a bit and yes some ECU tuning would be great...
A light weight flywheel is a NO NO...waste for as quick as you'll rev is as quick as your rev's will drop get maybe a stock ITR flywheel good flywheel and match that with a good clutch stage 3 (is this grand turismo tuning center)go with a clutchmasters or equivalent, custom exhaust 2 1/4" high flow cat and resonator to an ITR axleback if you can find it sweet muffler and your purring your way to low 14's maybe a high 13 with a great suspension and some more BS or save your money and spray the bitch!
Originally Posted by 79camaro
I think you first need to get away from the ricer lifestyle...Bolt on this and that isnt gonna do anything for you...
You definately dont know anything bout engines cuz your stating the stupidiest things ive heard to make HP the way your planning...
$1000 ISNT gonna get you much...
Definately dont waste your money on stage 1's wont last long due to lack of potential...
These are the cams I would suggest to you going that route...
http://crower.com/cgi-bin/detail.cgi?prod_id=62403-2

Springs and retainers are a must thats kindda your choice if it can take what those cams are putting out Skunk2 makes them crower crane toda blah blah endless

Since the heads getting disassembled ask for a 3 or 5 (better) angle valve job and porting and polishing Match port the LS intake manifold and Bore the TB and match bore the IM...Now...Decent header ITR header is fine...
THIS IS WHERE THE POWER IS GONNA BE MADE FOR YOUR EXPECTATIONS YOU DONT NEED ALL THE BULLSH!T YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE...decent CAI i Would say drop in the 255LPH Walbro its cheap $130-140 new maybe a FPR just to bump it a bit and yes some ECU tuning would be great...
A light weight flywheel is a NO NO...waste for as quick as you'll rev is as quick as your rev's will drop get maybe a stock ITR flywheel good flywheel and match that with a good clutch stage 3 (is this grand turismo tuning center)go with a clutchmasters or equivalent, custom exhaust 2 1/4" high flow cat and resonator to an ITR axleback if you can find it sweet muffler and your purring your way to low 14's maybe a high 13 with a great suspension and some more BS or save your money and spray the bitch!
thanks for the help I know i dont know much I was just going by what i know the basics. im still learning i just got my civic and i know how to fix them and all that i just dont know what setups to do but i think im going to go with what you said simple but it works, oh and im probably not going to find an itr axleback exughst so ill have to get a good can i dont want a loud one just and agressive and deep one. well thanks again good route to take and i have to get some body and paint work done so ill be looking clean but ill be fairly fast thanks

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the LS is the cheapest and easiest motor to source out. i've seen the heads sell for $40 and i just recently bought a complete motor for $100.

what you wanna do all depends on what you wanna spend. so all the suggestions i've listed in my first post are budget minded yet most effective.
here's the thread for those cam gears Toronto Integras build the head an open those lungs you'll give a b16 civic a good run for his money.

ls/vtec is possible but again it all depends on how much you wanna spend. it's alot more complicated than just slapping the head on and calling it a day. my build is gonna me around $2500 for a fully built ls/vtec. that's with a free B16 head and LS block.
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Originally Posted by IntegraMark
the LS is the cheapest and easiest motor to source out. i've seen the heads sell for $40 and i just recently bought a complete motor for $100.

what you wanna do all depends on what you wanna spend. so all the suggestions i've listed in my first post are budget minded yet most effective.
here's the thread for those cam gears Toronto Integras build the head an open those lungs you'll give a b16 civic a good run for his money.

ls/vtec is possible but again it all depends on how much you wanna spend. it's alot more complicated than just slapping the head on and calling it a day. my build is gonna me around $2500 for a fully built ls/vtec. that's with a free B16 head and LS block.
Hey is this mark umm the one with the 1990 cx hatch with a b18 in it? if it is its phil, thanks for the help matt told me to do all that to so idunno but thanks again and yeah im not spending 2500$ on ls/vtec i could get an h22 or something big for that but when you have your ls/vtec its going to be fast. I just got my ar and for this summer im hoping ill have the ls in it then just slowly build it
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nope sorry this is mark that drives the integra. lol
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Cam it, intake, header, throttle body with a port match, and if need a little more thump... juice it.
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im runnin an LS in my 90 hatch, best run was 14.8 before header, dont know about now, maybe 14.5 or 14.6. thats with 420,000km on a b18a1, full 2 1/4, no cat, short ram, b18b1 intake manifold, slicks, chipped w/ TE at the time (mild mods). would be easy to see low 14s with some real mods i'd say.
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