Jakthehammer

TRUE OR FALSE?

Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
gain.


ANSWER:

BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.

TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS. MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........

TPr

What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?

Moron.

Elliot Richmond

On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 05:38:11 +0900, "TPr" <Jnr@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
>you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?
>
>Moron.

It was a troll. Ignore it.


Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Freelance science writer

Tegger

"Jakthehammer" <jakthhmmr@aol.com> wrote in news:fnvtnf$7sc$1@aioe.org:

> TRUE OR FALSE?
>
> Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
> Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
> gain.
>
>
> ANSWER:
>
> BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
>
> TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
> ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS. MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
> MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
> WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
> OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........
>
>
>


You are a very strange person.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

jim beam

Jakthehammer wrote:
> TRUE OR FALSE?
>
> Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
> Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
> gain.
>
>
> ANSWER:
>
> BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
>
> TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
> ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.

freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.
i don't rotate tires very often for this reason, and if i do, i have to
take it easy until the tires are re-worn back to the correct rotation
and cornering sense.

http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-m...-rotation.html


> MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
> MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
> WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
> OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........
>
>

hsg@h-gee.co.uk

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:43:17 -0800, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:

>Jakthehammer wrote:
>> TRUE OR FALSE?
>>
>> Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
>> Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
>> gain.
>>
>>
>> ANSWER:
>>
>> BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
>>
>> TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
>> ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.
>
>freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.
>i don't rotate tires very often for this reason, and if i do, i have to
>take it easy until the tires are re-worn back to the correct rotation
>and cornering sense.
>
>http://www.mini2.com/forum/2nd-gen-m...-rotation.html
>
>
>> MY ADVICE IS TO KEEP THE DRIVING WHEEL WITH
>> MORE THREADS, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR CRITICAL CONCERN. ACCIDENT HAPPENS IN
>> WINTER/RAINING SEASON DUE TO INSUFFICIENT THREAD, NO TRACTION = FLIPPING
>> OVER THE HILL.....Heehee.........
>>
>>

On many vehicles now-a-days tire or even tyre rotation is a thing of the past
having been left in a time warp of 1970 ish.

the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
this.

The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.

Hugh
--

Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen
hsg@h-gee.co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK

Max

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:59:40 +0000, hsg@h-gee.co.uk graced this
newsgroup with:


>
>the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
>fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
>the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
>this.
>
>The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
>tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.
>
>Hugh


Not entirely true. Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.

The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
still made that way).

Rotate them and you'll get longer life out of all four tires.
Otherwise, you'll be constantly changing a set of tires. And many
manufacturers don't make the same exact tire every year. You'll
end up with two different sets of treads and/or manufacturers if you
constantly only buy one set of tires.

Also, maybe you mean moving front to back/back to front but you don't
actually take the tires off the *rims* when you rotate. You merely
move the entire tire/rim as a single unit.


However, as you mentioned, if the front and rear tires are of
different sizes, the ONLY rotation you can do is left/right and not
front/back.

-max

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <sldbq39bfheck2541irkj0o4ruk2n8sqiq@4ax.com>,
Max <max@nospam.net> wrote:

> Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
> significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
> front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
>
> The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
> still made that way).

Not necessarily.

FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.

Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
division of duties.

bjn

On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 09:43:17 -0800, jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net>
wrote:

>Jakthehammer wrote:
>> TRUE OR FALSE?
>>
>> Tire rotation refers to the regular practice of switching the tires...
>> Purpose: Tire rotation helps to equalize tread wear and is critical to
>> gain.
>>
>>
>> ANSWER:
>>
>> BULLSHIT! TIRES USUALLY LAST 2.5 YRS, NOT 4-YRS.
>>
>> TIRE COMPANIES WANT TO MAKE THING APPEARS LONGER, THEY ASKED YOU TO
>> ROTATE. YOU LOSE TRACTIONS.
>
>freak though you are, you have a point there - you /do/ lose traction.

Even on all-wheel-drive vehicles?

Max

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:51:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> graced this newsgroup with:

>In article <sldbq39bfheck2541irkj0o4ruk2n8sqiq@4ax.com>,
> Max <max@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
>> significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
>> front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
>>
>> The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
>> still made that way).
>
>Not necessarily.
>
>FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
>the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
>doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.
>
>Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
>division of duties.


Front wheel drives are also the drive wheels. That creates additional
stress on the rubber. Pulling foward and being pulled forward cause
much different wear on a tire.

jim beam

Max wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:59:40 +0000, hsg@h-gee.co.uk graced this
> newsgroup with:
>
>
>> the reason behind this is the move to FWD and the newer train of thought in
>> fitting different size/width wheels at each end. My new E65 has wider wheels at
>> the rear than the front I know that BMW isn't the only manufacturers that does
>> this.
>>
>> The choice is yours but remember if its a new car the chances are the front
>> tires (tyres) won't fit the rear rims.
>>
>> Hugh
>
>
> Not entirely true. Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
> significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
> front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
>
> The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
> still made that way).
>
> Rotate them and you'll get longer life out of all four tires.

actually, that's not correct. each time you rotate, the tires have to
scrub to the wear pattern of their new position, so overall average can
be worse. your statement is the common belief based on people tending
to notice tire wear more when not rotated simply because there will
always be one or two wearing more than the others.


> Otherwise, you'll be constantly changing a set of tires.

no, just one or two. tire dealers love to sell sets though.


> And many
> manufacturers don't make the same exact tire every year. You'll
> end up with two different sets of treads and/or manufacturers if you
> constantly only buy one set of tires.

and? what about cars that have different sizes front/rear? as long as
you have decent rubber front and rear, and the same tires on each axle,
you'll be fine.


>
> Also, maybe you mean moving front to back/back to front but you don't
> actually take the tires off the *rims* when you rotate. You merely
> move the entire tire/rim as a single unit.
>
>
> However, as you mentioned, if the front and rear tires are of
> different sizes, the ONLY rotation you can do is left/right and not
> front/back.

which on a performance vehicle is immediately noticeable with inferior
traction. and you can't even do that if the tires have a rotation
direction, which many do.

Grumpy AuContraire

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <sldbq39bfheck2541irkj0o4ruk2n8sqiq@4ax.com>,
> Max <max@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Front wheel drive cars wear out the front tires
>>significantly faster than it's rear tires. You'll be replacing the
>>front tires at nearly a ratio of 2:1 in comparison to the rear tires.
>>
>>The reverse holds true for rear wheel cars (of which many cars are
>>still made that way).
>
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> FWD cars have the front wheels doing all the driving, the steering, and
> the braking. Compare that to RWD cars, where the front wheels aren't
> doing the driving--they're just turning and braking.
>
> Tire wear is more likely to be more even on a RWD car because of this
> division of duties.
>


I've found that all of my rear wheel drive vehicles still wear the front
tires first due to engine weight/braking and steering also takes its
toll. OTOH, I have found front end wheel alignments duration much more
durable on the rear drive cars.

Of course, I'm living in the past...

<G>

JT

z

On Feb 1, 3:38 pm, "TPr" <J...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> What a load of rubbish. Is anyone stupid enough to beleive this crap, when
> you don't even have a basic grasp of the english language ?
>
> Moron.

You're right. ever time i get out of the car and look, my tires aren't
rotating, they're just sitting there. and i'm expected to believe that
they wait until i'm in the car driving instead of watching them, then
they rotate? just to have a joke on me? come on.