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'03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the
"features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could help her. 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating the remote control; 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver door for a prolonged period of time; 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound or no sound at all; 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for everything. Please help. TIA Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>,
Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; See above. On my Honda van, the interior lights go out after 3 or so minutes. That's a FEATURE, not a problem; it's outlined in that owner's manual you seem to want to avoid. > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; See above. You know that owner's manual? It's pretty clear on all of this stuff. Let me ask you: why is she clicking on the remote a second time? There's no need; the first click locks the car. The only--ONLY--reason for clicking a second time is to get the horn to beep for confirmation that the doors are locked and the alarm system is active. The second click does nothing more. If she simply wants the car to lock silently, she should click the remote once. If she doesn't want the horn to beep, she shouldn't click it as second time at all. What does she *think* she's getting with that second click? > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. What does the owner's manual say? I sound like your mother here, a broken record. > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. How did you find out about that "programming for everything"? |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>,
Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; See above. On my Honda van, the interior lights go out after 3 or so minutes. That's a FEATURE, not a problem; it's outlined in that owner's manual you seem to want to avoid. > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; See above. You know that owner's manual? It's pretty clear on all of this stuff. Let me ask you: why is she clicking on the remote a second time? There's no need; the first click locks the car. The only--ONLY--reason for clicking a second time is to get the horn to beep for confirmation that the doors are locked and the alarm system is active. The second click does nothing more. If she simply wants the car to lock silently, she should click the remote once. If she doesn't want the horn to beep, she shouldn't click it as second time at all. What does she *think* she's getting with that second click? > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. What does the owner's manual say? I sound like your mother here, a broken record. > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. How did you find out about that "programming for everything"? |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/6/04 1:14 AM, in article 000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the > "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could > help her. > > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; That sounds like a bug in the system. She should have the dealer look at it. It is an intentional feature that when you first unlock the doors with the remote, if a door (any door) is not opened within 20 seconds, they will automatically re-lock, but that doesn't sound like the problem she is having. > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; The alarm activates the first time you push the lock button. The horn sounding on the second press is only for the purpose of reassuring yourself that it heard you the first time. Tell her to only push it once if she doesn't want to hear the horn. I don't see where there is a problem here. This is a pretty well thought out feature and lets you have it pretty much both ways (horn or no horn). > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. > I agree this is an irritating quirk of the Honda Nav systems. Nothing can be done about it. It is probably the only thing about the nav where Nissan had a better idea - they have a display on/off button that blacks it out at any time. > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. > > Please help. > > TIA > > Best, > > Andrew |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/6/04 1:14 AM, in article 000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the > "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could > help her. > > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; That sounds like a bug in the system. She should have the dealer look at it. It is an intentional feature that when you first unlock the doors with the remote, if a door (any door) is not opened within 20 seconds, they will automatically re-lock, but that doesn't sound like the problem she is having. > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; The alarm activates the first time you push the lock button. The horn sounding on the second press is only for the purpose of reassuring yourself that it heard you the first time. Tell her to only push it once if she doesn't want to hear the horn. I don't see where there is a problem here. This is a pretty well thought out feature and lets you have it pretty much both ways (horn or no horn). > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. > I agree this is an irritating quirk of the Honda Nav systems. Nothing can be done about it. It is probably the only thing about the nav where Nissan had a better idea - they have a display on/off button that blacks it out at any time. > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. > > Please help. > > TIA > > Best, > > Andrew |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read
the manual. "Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote in message news:000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com... > Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the > "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could > help her. > > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. > > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. > > Please help. > > TIA > > Best, > > Andrew > > -- > > > Birmingham, Alabama, USA > rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read
the manual. "Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote in message news:000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com... > Wife drives a '03 Accord V6. She is annoyed about some of the > "features." I could not find any information in the Manual that could > help her. > > 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > the remote control; > 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver > door for a prolonged period of time; > 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote > and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound > or no sound at all; > 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is > concerned that once the Nav is on, there is no way of turning it off - > she finds herself in some areas of the city where she does not want to > attract attention with the Nav. Stopping an restarting the car (an not > clicking on the OK) is sometimes NOT an option. > > I can't help her. The Prelude my son drives (inherited from me) is not > that fancy, and the '04 TL that I drive allows programming for > everything. > > Please help. > > TIA > > Best, > > Andrew > > -- > > > Birmingham, Alabama, USA > rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com: > In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, > Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >> the remote control; > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without locking it. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com: > In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, > Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >> the remote control; > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without locking it. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
mine did that the other day,but yesterday after golfing I noticed it was
unlocked when we returned to put out clubs away. Hmmm...not that got me curious. "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.16 7... > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- > 8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com: > > > In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, > > Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > > > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >> the remote control; > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > locking it. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
mine did that the other day,but yesterday after golfing I noticed it was
unlocked when we returned to put out clubs away. Hmmm...not that got me curious. "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.16 7... > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- > 8F439D.09063606092004@text.usenetserver.com: > > > In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, > > Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > > > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >> the remote control; > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > locking it. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >> the remote control; > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > locking it. That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> ,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >> the remote control; > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > locking it. That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com>,
elmop@nastydesigns.com says... > In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > > > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > > >> the remote control; > > > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > > locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > I have a 2000 that will relock itself if I don't open the door after unlocking it with in 30 seconds. Does it do this with the key in the ignition? It's not suppose to active with the key in the ignition. Randy |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com>,
elmop@nastydesigns.com says... > In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > > > >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > > >> the remote control; > > > > > > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, > > > look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > > > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make sure > > > you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked > > > the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > > > > > > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > > locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > I have a 2000 that will relock itself if I don't open the door after unlocking it with in 30 seconds. Does it do this with the key in the ignition? It's not suppose to active with the key in the ignition. Randy |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > > locking it. > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. Sad, but some will do this. I once drove a rental Grand Prix in 1999 and it did just that. It was *very* frustrating, especially since it had no remote. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote > > Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away without > > locking it. > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. Sad, but some will do this. I once drove a rental Grand Prix in 1999 and it did just that. It was *very* frustrating, especially since it had no remote. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >>>> the remote control; >>> >>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always >>> be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >>> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make >>> sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never >>> even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? >>> >> >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >> without locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not opened in about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows..... |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >>>> the remote control; >>> >>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always >>> be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >>> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make >>> sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never >>> even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? >>> >> >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >> without locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not opened in about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows..... |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
Randy Hunt wrote:
> In article <elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com>, > elmop@nastydesigns.com says... >> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , >> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >>>>> the remote control; >>>> >>>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should >>>> always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and >>>> exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to >>>> behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is >>>> you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know >>>> where it is? >>>> >>> >>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >>> without locking it. >> >> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock >> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. >> >> > I have a 2000 that will relock itself if I don't open the door after > unlocking it with in 30 seconds. Does it do this with the key in the > ignition? It's not suppose to active with the key in the ignition. > > Randy No, it won't (but have a spare just in case when you try it!) |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
Randy Hunt wrote:
> In article <elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com>, > elmop@nastydesigns.com says... >> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , >> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >>>>> the remote control; >>>> >>>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should >>>> always be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and >>>> exhaustive information on how the locking system is supposed to >>>> behave. Make sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is >>>> you've never even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know >>>> where it is? >>>> >>> >>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >>> without locking it. >> >> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock >> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. >> >> > I have a 2000 that will relock itself if I don't open the door after > unlocking it with in 30 seconds. Does it do this with the key in the > ignition? It's not suppose to active with the key in the ignition. > > Randy No, it won't (but have a spare just in case when you try it!) |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <sZt%c.21571$vy.14613@attbi_s52>,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote: > >>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >>>> the remote control; > >>> > >>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always > >>> be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > >>> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make > >>> sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never > >>> even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > >>> > >> > >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away > >> without locking it. > > > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not opened in > about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows..... That's standard Honda behavior. Nice. But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <sZt%c.21571$vy.14613@attbi_s52>,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxcomcast.net> wrote: > >>>> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating > >>>> the remote control; > >>> > >>> Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always > >>> be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive > >>> information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make > >>> sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never > >>> even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? > >>> > >> > >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away > >> without locking it. > > > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > My 04 will relock itself if it is unlocked and the door is not opened in > about 1 minute. Even if I lower the windows..... That's standard Honda behavior. Nice. But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:06:36 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote: >:|In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, >:| Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: >:| >:|> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >:|> the remote control; >:| >:|Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, >:|look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >:|information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. I am not sure what she's doing. But from what she tells me, if she takes the keys out of the ignition, and closes (not locks) the doors, the doors lock all by themselves. According to the manual, this is NOT a "feature." I told her to take it up with the dealer, just in case she does some funky sequence which creates this scenario. As she tells me, it doesn't make any sense. I leave my keys on the console in the Acura in the garage. It would really piss me up if I had to dig up the spare just to get into my car in the mornings. >:|Make sure >:|you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked >:|the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? Yup. sure do. >:|> 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver >:|> door for a prolonged period of time; >:|See above. On my Honda van, the interior lights go out after 3 or so >:|minutes. That's a FEATURE, not a problem; it's outlined in that owner's >:|manual you seem to want to avoid.>:| This particular issue is not addressed in the manual. You mean to say that it stands to reason that if you are loading or unloading your car with only the driver's door open the interior lights go off, so you have to un/load in the dark? If the passenger door is open, the light stays on indefinitely. It is not logical. >:|> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote >:|> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound >:|> or no sound at all; >:| >:|See above. You know that owner's manual? It's pretty clear on all of >:|this stuff. Let me ask you: why is she clicking on the remote a second >:|time? There's no need; the first click locks the car. [....] >:|What does she *think* she's getting with that second click? You are absolutely correct. Older alarms (which my dad has been installing for many years), required a second click to set the alarm. This is clearly not the case in the recent Honda cars. Thanks for clarifying it for us. With the Acura, I click the second time to turn off the lights immediately, although I don't have to, since they will turn off after the programmed 30 seconds anyway. Force of habit, I guess. >:|> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - >:|What does the owner's manual say? Right you are. The Navigator manual is quite clear. Setup/Display Off, either manually or with voice command. >:|How did you find out about that "programming for everything"? There is a nifty little screen on the a secondary display in the dash that WALKS you through the set-up: seats, mirrors, interior lights, doors, radio stations, headlights, etc. All are adjustable and keyed to the remote you use to unlock the car. For instance if I (Driver 1) put the car in Park, all doors unlock. In Drive, none do, unless the doors are opened manually. Interior lights stay on if any doors are opened. They come on if I unlock the doors. Driver 2's configuration can be completely different. Didn't need the manual. It's intuitive and simple. Thanks for the cogent reply. Got me looking at her manual and I put some stickies pointing to the relevant passages. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 09:06:36 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote: >:|In article <000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com>, >:| Andrew J. Rozsa <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: >:| >:|> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >:|> the remote control; >:| >:|Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always be, >:|look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >:|information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. I am not sure what she's doing. But from what she tells me, if she takes the keys out of the ignition, and closes (not locks) the doors, the doors lock all by themselves. According to the manual, this is NOT a "feature." I told her to take it up with the dealer, just in case she does some funky sequence which creates this scenario. As she tells me, it doesn't make any sense. I leave my keys on the console in the Acura in the garage. It would really piss me up if I had to dig up the spare just to get into my car in the mornings. >:|Make sure >:|you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never even cracked >:|the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? Yup. sure do. >:|> 2. The interior lights don't stay on when she opens the driver >:|> door for a prolonged period of time; >:|See above. On my Honda van, the interior lights go out after 3 or so >:|minutes. That's a FEATURE, not a problem; it's outlined in that owner's >:|manual you seem to want to avoid.>:| This particular issue is not addressed in the manual. You mean to say that it stands to reason that if you are loading or unloading your car with only the driver's door open the interior lights go off, so you have to un/load in the dark? If the passenger door is open, the light stays on indefinitely. It is not logical. >:|> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote >:|> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound >:|> or no sound at all; >:| >:|See above. You know that owner's manual? It's pretty clear on all of >:|this stuff. Let me ask you: why is she clicking on the remote a second >:|time? There's no need; the first click locks the car. [....] >:|What does she *think* she's getting with that second click? You are absolutely correct. Older alarms (which my dad has been installing for many years), required a second click to set the alarm. This is clearly not the case in the recent Honda cars. Thanks for clarifying it for us. With the Acura, I click the second time to turn off the lights immediately, although I don't have to, since they will turn off after the programmed 30 seconds anyway. Force of habit, I guess. >:|> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - >:|What does the owner's manual say? Right you are. The Navigator manual is quite clear. Setup/Display Off, either manually or with voice command. >:|How did you find out about that "programming for everything"? There is a nifty little screen on the a secondary display in the dash that WALKS you through the set-up: seats, mirrors, interior lights, doors, radio stations, headlights, etc. All are adjustable and keyed to the remote you use to unlock the car. For instance if I (Driver 1) put the car in Park, all doors unlock. In Drive, none do, unless the doors are opened manually. Interior lights stay on if any doors are opened. They come on if I unlock the doors. Driver 2's configuration can be completely different. Didn't need the manual. It's intuitive and simple. Thanks for the cogent reply. Got me looking at her manual and I put some stickies pointing to the relevant passages. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:29:23 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org>
wrote: >:|On 9/6/04 1:14 AM, in article 000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com, >:|"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: >:|> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >:|> the remote control; >:| >:|That sounds like a bug in the system. She should have the dealer look at >:|it. Thanks. I think you are right. >:|> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote >:|> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound >:|> or no sound at all; >:| >:|The alarm activates the first time you push the lock button. We were falling back on habits with older alarms. Thanks for the pointer. >:|> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is >:|I agree this is an irritating quirk of the Honda Nav systems. Nothing can It is mentioned in the (separate) Navigator manual. It is buried among a list of Setup commands. It is simply: Setup/Display Off, in either manual or voice command modes. I am grateful for you taking the time to help. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 14:29:23 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e52.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org>
wrote: >:|On 9/6/04 1:14 AM, in article 000oj01q6v4q72q21la6f5mlvme81q90aa@4ax.com, >:|"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: >:|> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >:|> the remote control; >:| >:|That sounds like a bug in the system. She should have the dealer look at >:|it. Thanks. I think you are right. >:|> 3. The horn sounds when she clicks the second time on the remote >:|> and the alarm is activated - she wished that it made a quieter sound >:|> or no sound at all; >:| >:|The alarm activates the first time you push the lock button. We were falling back on habits with older alarms. Thanks for the pointer. >:|> 4. She has found no way to turn off the Navigator - she is >:|I agree this is an irritating quirk of the Honda Nav systems. Nothing can It is mentioned in the (separate) Navigator manual. It is buried among a list of Setup commands. It is simply: Setup/Display Off, in either manual or voice command modes. I am grateful for you taking the time to help. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:28:05 -0400, "Honda Doc"
<tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote: >:|All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read >:|the manual. [sheepishly] Clearly, you are absolutely correct about the Nav. Setup/Display Off. Thanks for driving me to the Nav manual. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:28:05 -0400, "Honda Doc"
<tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote: >:|All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read >:|the manual. [sheepishly] Clearly, you are absolutely correct about the Nav. Setup/Display Off. Thanks for driving me to the Nav manual. Best, Andrew -- Birmingham, Alabama, USA rozsa@usa.invalid |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/7/04 10:52 PM, in article vb0tj01e2v3vhdhm7j6vop7kco0b5fd3ue@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:28:05 -0400, "Honda Doc" > <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote: > >> :|All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read >> :|the manual. > > [sheepishly] Clearly, you are absolutely correct about the Nav. > Setup/Display Off. > > Thanks for driving me to the Nav manual. > > > Best, > > Andrew Glad to hear they finally did something about that. There is no such command on my '00 TL Nav. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/7/04 10:52 PM, in article vb0tj01e2v3vhdhm7j6vop7kco0b5fd3ue@4ax.com,
"Andrew J. Rozsa" <rozsa@usa.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:28:05 -0400, "Honda Doc" > <tophondadoc@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote: > >> :|All these things are normal operation. She can turn off the Navi, just read >> :|the manual. > > [sheepishly] Clearly, you are absolutely correct about the Nav. > Setup/Display Off. > > Thanks for driving me to the Nav manual. > > > Best, > > Andrew Glad to hear they finally did something about that. There is no such command on my '00 TL Nav. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com: > In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >> >> the remote control; >> > >> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always >> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make >> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never >> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? >> > >> >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >> without locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key. Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com: > In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , > Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > >> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >> >> the remote control; >> > >> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always >> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make >> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never >> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? >> > >> >> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >> without locking it. > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key. Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com: > But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, > without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new > car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the > fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). > > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway :) |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com: > But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, > without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new > car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the > fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). > > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway :) |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165>,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > > > Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key. > Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds. And that must be controllable by the driver, no question. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
In article <Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165>,
Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > > That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock > > itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. > > > > Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key. > Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds. And that must be controllable by the driver, no question. |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- > D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com: > >> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, >> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new >> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the >> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). >> >> > > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they > both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut > the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this > out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and > got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway :) I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody actually wants this feature... |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
On 9/7/04 11:51 PM, in article
Xns955E8F41EDE2XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165, "Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop- > D3DF0E.22545707092004@text.usenetserver.com: > >> But the original claim is that "doors lock after she leaves the car, >> without her activating the remote control". That's BROKEN. On a new >> car, one should take that to the dealer to be fixed (after reading the >> fine owner's manual to make sure one isn't doing something wrong). >> >> > > This is normal behavior. I've had an Acura RSX and an '04 Accord and they > both do this IF: You shut off the engine, remove the key, get out and shut > the door...it will lock automatically after 30 seconds or so. I found this > out the hard way with my RSX when I left the keys on the passenger seat and > got out to check something...fortunately, I was in my driveway :) I would like to see the marketing survey that convinced them that anybody actually wants this feature... |
Re: '03 Accord V6 locks out driver?
"Nobody" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Xns955E87F42B7CXZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.165 ... > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in > news:elmop-2CDB00.06462607092004@text.usenetserver.com: > >> In article <Xns955D19C53A516XZLKJOIDUKLJ098098@24.24.2.167> , >> Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> >> 1. Doors lock after she leaves the car, without her activating >>> >> the remote control; >>> > >>> > Broken. Fix it--it's under warranty. BUT: step one should always >>> > be, look in the owner's manual. It gives complete and exhaustive >>> > information on how the locking system is supposed to behave. Make >>> > sure you aren't doing something wrong. My guess is you've never >>> > even cracked the owner's manual. Do you even know where it is? >>> > >>> >>> Nope, normal. My Accord does this. The car thinks you walked away >>> without locking it. >> >> That must be controllable by the owner, then. No way does a car lock >> itself without some positive action on the driver/owner's part. >> > > Nope, it does. Get in the car start it. Shut it off and remove the key. > Get out and shut the door without locking it. Watch for 30 seconds. No way I drive a 2004 accord and the car Will Not lock it self as you describe. but it will relock it self within 30sec or so if you use your remote to unlock it and don't open the door within 30 sec. or so. |
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