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03 Civic Si fill up issue.
I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to
early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing I can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time and is pretty annoying. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Spam Trap Account wrote:
> > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > I > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > and > is pretty annoying. --------------------------------- Mr. Trap, It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( 'Curly' --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Spam Trap Account wrote:
> > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > I > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > and > is pretty annoying. --------------------------------- Mr. Trap, It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( 'Curly' --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Spam Trap Account wrote:
> > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > I > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > and > is pretty annoying. --------------------------------- Mr. Trap, It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( 'Curly' --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Spam Trap Account wrote:
> > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > I > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > and > is pretty annoying. --------------------------------- Mr. Trap, It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( 'Curly' --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > > 'Curly' > > --------------- Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding something? RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- All things being equal, fat people use more soap. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > > 'Curly' > > --------------- Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding something? RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- All things being equal, fat people use more soap. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > > 'Curly' > > --------------- Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding something? RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- All things being equal, fat people use more soap. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 1:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > > 'Curly' > > --------------- Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding something? RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- All things being equal, fat people use more soap. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the > tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding > something? > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen > -- > All things being equal, fat people use more soap. ----------------------- Dave, As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to mention an unsound environmental practice. Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to be on the evening news. I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't know anything about that part. I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil our fun, really. :-( 'Curly' P.S. Love your sig file -------------------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the > tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding > something? > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen > -- > All things being equal, fat people use more soap. ----------------------- Dave, As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to mention an unsound environmental practice. Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to be on the evening news. I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't know anything about that part. I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil our fun, really. :-( 'Curly' P.S. Love your sig file -------------------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the > tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding > something? > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen > -- > All things being equal, fat people use more soap. ----------------------- Dave, As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to mention an unsound environmental practice. Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to be on the evening news. I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't know anything about that part. I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil our fun, really. :-( 'Curly' P.S. Love your sig file -------------------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Dave Kelsen wrote:
> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the > tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding > something? > > RFT!!! > Dave Kelsen > -- > All things being equal, fat people use more soap. ----------------------- Dave, As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to mention an unsound environmental practice. Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to be on the evening news. I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't know anything about that part. I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil our fun, really. :-( 'Curly' P.S. Love your sig file -------------------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com... > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com... > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com... > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD2941A.67431959@interbaun.com... > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. This is true, except on a cold day, when the product coming out of the ground is actually warmer than the above ground temperature. -- Brian www.accesswave.ca/~orion |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 8:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Dave Kelsen wrote: >> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the >> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding >> something? >> > ----------------------- > Dave, > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it > on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then > start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to > mention an unsound environmental practice. > > Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole > cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to > be on the evening news. > > I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't > know anything about that part. > > I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil > our fun, really. :-( Well, the way you say it here sounds reasonable - although I try not to let that get in the way of a good argument. ;^) I think that if my tank did that, there'd be something wrong, even though I've never put more than 15 gallons in ('03 Accord, 17 gal tank I believe). The process you describe seems to me to be certainly possible, but not much more likely than a car exploding in flames due to a collision (outside of the movies). I recall that this past year, there has been an increased awareness of the potential for static to cause disasters at fillup. That seems to me to be somewhat more likely, although still a remarkably small chance. I suppose any chance at all is enough to get the lawyers into the engineering department, but I do think we can go too far protecting ourselves from ourselves. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Dying is no excuse; Nixon in 2004. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 8:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Dave Kelsen wrote: >> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the >> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding >> something? >> > ----------------------- > Dave, > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it > on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then > start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to > mention an unsound environmental practice. > > Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole > cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to > be on the evening news. > > I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't > know anything about that part. > > I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil > our fun, really. :-( Well, the way you say it here sounds reasonable - although I try not to let that get in the way of a good argument. ;^) I think that if my tank did that, there'd be something wrong, even though I've never put more than 15 gallons in ('03 Accord, 17 gal tank I believe). The process you describe seems to me to be certainly possible, but not much more likely than a car exploding in flames due to a collision (outside of the movies). I recall that this past year, there has been an increased awareness of the potential for static to cause disasters at fillup. That seems to me to be somewhat more likely, although still a remarkably small chance. I suppose any chance at all is enough to get the lawyers into the engineering department, but I do think we can go too far protecting ourselves from ourselves. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Dying is no excuse; Nixon in 2004. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 8:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Dave Kelsen wrote: >> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the >> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding >> something? >> > ----------------------- > Dave, > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it > on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then > start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to > mention an unsound environmental practice. > > Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole > cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to > be on the evening news. > > I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't > know anything about that part. > > I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil > our fun, really. :-( Well, the way you say it here sounds reasonable - although I try not to let that get in the way of a good argument. ;^) I think that if my tank did that, there'd be something wrong, even though I've never put more than 15 gallons in ('03 Accord, 17 gal tank I believe). The process you describe seems to me to be certainly possible, but not much more likely than a car exploding in flames due to a collision (outside of the movies). I recall that this past year, there has been an increased awareness of the potential for static to cause disasters at fillup. That seems to me to be somewhat more likely, although still a remarkably small chance. I suppose any chance at all is enough to get the lawyers into the engineering department, but I do think we can go too far protecting ourselves from ourselves. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Dying is no excuse; Nixon in 2004. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
On 12/6/2003 8:44 PM 'Curly Q. Links' spake these words of knowledge:
> Dave Kelsen wrote: >> Curley, do you intend to say that the shutoff *should* happen when the >> tank is 3 gallons or more from being full, or am I misunderstanding >> something? >> > ----------------------- > Dave, > > As I understand it, the reason you need so much 'headroom' in the tank > is mostly expansion. Gas is stored underground and comes out pretty > cold. On a HOT day, it will expand at a great rate, and if you park it > on even a slight angle, it will 'burp' into the evap. canister, then > start overflowing wherever it can. This is clearly a fire hazard, not to > mention an unsound environmental practice. > > Gas runs down the street, or starts to pour down the nearest manhole > cover. Add a smoker walking by while lighting up, and somebody gets to > be on the evening news. > > I think roll-over accidents are part of the equation too, but I don't > know anything about that part. > > I don't think these people writing the manuals are just trying to spoil > our fun, really. :-( Well, the way you say it here sounds reasonable - although I try not to let that get in the way of a good argument. ;^) I think that if my tank did that, there'd be something wrong, even though I've never put more than 15 gallons in ('03 Accord, 17 gal tank I believe). The process you describe seems to me to be certainly possible, but not much more likely than a car exploding in flames due to a collision (outside of the movies). I recall that this past year, there has been an increased awareness of the potential for static to cause disasters at fillup. That seems to me to be somewhat more likely, although still a remarkably small chance. I suppose any chance at all is enough to get the lawyers into the engineering department, but I do think we can go too far protecting ourselves from ourselves. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- Dying is no excuse; Nixon in 2004. |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E
(low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up shuts off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have if overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as spilled from a single fill up. So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas into it? ===== Original Message from "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> at 12/6/2003 2:44 pm >Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. >--------------------------------- >Mr. Trap, > >It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your >warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do >what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > >If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and >see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a >lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > >'Curly' > >--------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E
(low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up shuts off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have if overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as spilled from a single fill up. So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas into it? ===== Original Message from "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> at 12/6/2003 2:44 pm >Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. >--------------------------------- >Mr. Trap, > >It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your >warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do >what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > >If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and >see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a >lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > >'Curly' > >--------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E
(low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up shuts off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have if overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as spilled from a single fill up. So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas into it? ===== Original Message from "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> at 12/6/2003 2:44 pm >Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. >--------------------------------- >Mr. Trap, > >It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your >warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do >what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > >If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and >see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a >lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > >'Curly' > >--------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E
(low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up shuts off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have if overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as spilled from a single fill up. So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas into it? ===== Original Message from "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> at 12/6/2003 2:44 pm >Spam Trap Account wrote: >> >> I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to >> early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing >> I >> can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it >> certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time >> and >> is pretty annoying. >--------------------------------- >Mr. Trap, > >It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your >warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do >what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > >If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and >see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a >lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( > >'Curly' > >--------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com>
news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > shuts > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have > if > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > spilled > from a single fill up. > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > into > it? > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to your fuel tank. Bye, Leon |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com>
news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > shuts > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have > if > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > spilled > from a single fill up. > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > into > it? > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to your fuel tank. Bye, Leon |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com>
news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > shuts > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have > if > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > spilled > from a single fill up. > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > into > it? > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to your fuel tank. Bye, Leon |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com>
news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on E > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > shuts > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in my > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with 10 > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not have > if > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > spilled > from a single fill up. > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > into > it? > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to your fuel tank. Bye, Leon |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13
gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on > E > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > shuts > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in > my > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with > 10 > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > have > > if > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > spilled > > from a single fill up. > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > > into > > it? > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to > your fuel tank. > > Bye, > Leon > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13
gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on > E > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > shuts > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in > my > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with > 10 > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > have > > if > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > spilled > > from a single fill up. > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > > into > > it? > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to > your fuel tank. > > Bye, > Leon > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13
gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on > E > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > shuts > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in > my > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with > 10 > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > have > > if > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > spilled > > from a single fill up. > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > > into > > it? > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to > your fuel tank. > > Bye, > Leon > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13
gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving on > E > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > shuts > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons in > my > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank with > 10 > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > have > > if > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > spilled > > from a single fill up. > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of gas > > into > > it? > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular basis > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not just > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced to > your fuel tank. > > Bye, > Leon > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
I agree with Leon; the manuals for my 2000 Civic AND 2003 Odyssey both
indicate that filling the fuel tank should cease when the service station nozzle auto stops; I imagine that this is assuming no faulty equipment is in use at the gas station. I believe Honda recommends this for the fuel filter/ fuel pump observations Leon noted. -chris "Coming out of a car wash, my Civic turned to a Cavalier and said, "Don't worry- perhaps you'll be a Honda someday!" "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:tRQBb.303866$Dw6.1024562@attbi_s02... > 3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13 > gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. > I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. > I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. > > "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving > on > > E > > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > > shuts > > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons > in > > my > > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank > with > > 10 > > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > > have > > > if > > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > > spilled > > > from a single fill up. > > > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of > gas > > > into > > > it? > > > > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular > basis > > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not > just > > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced > to > > your fuel tank. > > > > Bye, > > Leon > > > > > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
I agree with Leon; the manuals for my 2000 Civic AND 2003 Odyssey both
indicate that filling the fuel tank should cease when the service station nozzle auto stops; I imagine that this is assuming no faulty equipment is in use at the gas station. I believe Honda recommends this for the fuel filter/ fuel pump observations Leon noted. -chris "Coming out of a car wash, my Civic turned to a Cavalier and said, "Don't worry- perhaps you'll be a Honda someday!" "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:tRQBb.303866$Dw6.1024562@attbi_s02... > 3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13 > gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. > I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. > I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. > > "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving > on > > E > > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > > shuts > > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons > in > > my > > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank > with > > 10 > > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > > have > > > if > > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > > spilled > > > from a single fill up. > > > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of > gas > > > into > > > it? > > > > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular > basis > > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not > just > > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced > to > > your fuel tank. > > > > Bye, > > Leon > > > > > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
I agree with Leon; the manuals for my 2000 Civic AND 2003 Odyssey both
indicate that filling the fuel tank should cease when the service station nozzle auto stops; I imagine that this is assuming no faulty equipment is in use at the gas station. I believe Honda recommends this for the fuel filter/ fuel pump observations Leon noted. -chris "Coming out of a car wash, my Civic turned to a Cavalier and said, "Don't worry- perhaps you'll be a Honda someday!" "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:tRQBb.303866$Dw6.1024562@attbi_s02... > 3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13 > gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. > I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. > I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. > > "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving > on > > E > > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > > shuts > > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons > in > > my > > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank > with > > 10 > > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > > have > > > if > > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > > spilled > > > from a single fill up. > > > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of > gas > > > into > > > it? > > > > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular > basis > > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not > just > > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced > to > > your fuel tank. > > > > Bye, > > Leon > > > > > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
I agree with Leon; the manuals for my 2000 Civic AND 2003 Odyssey both
indicate that filling the fuel tank should cease when the service station nozzle auto stops; I imagine that this is assuming no faulty equipment is in use at the gas station. I believe Honda recommends this for the fuel filter/ fuel pump observations Leon noted. -chris "Coming out of a car wash, my Civic turned to a Cavalier and said, "Don't worry- perhaps you'll be a Honda someday!" "Fluffy" <no-spamming-bsavanh@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:tRQBb.303866$Dw6.1024562@attbi_s02... > 3 gallons out is a little excessive, especially on a car that only holds 13 > gallons. Does this happen at every gas station or only at particular ones. > I've noticed that some gas pumps tends to stop a little earlier than others. > I too like to add more gas into my tank after it stops. > > "Leon" <leonp_nospam@bigfoot.com> wrote in message > news:newscache$39toph$dk9$1@ithaca.tee.gr... > > "Spam Trap Account" <wireless@mailandnews.com> > > news:3FD5058A@Flyer... > > > Give me a break! The car has a 13.2 gallon gas tank, yet after driving > on > > E > > > (low fuel warning light on for > 40 miles, needle pegged at E) a fill up > > > shuts > > > off at 8 gallons. Now assuming I still have a gallon or so (lets be > > > generous... 2 gallons) that means I can never put more than 10 gallons > in > > my > > > tank). Now don't lecture me on "overfilling" a 13.2 gallon gas tank > with > > 10 > > > gallons. Since when can you add another 3 gallons into a tank and not > > have > > > if > > > overflow I think your are mistaken. And for the record nary a drop as > > > spilled > > > from a single fill up. > > > > > > So who else has a 02 Civic Si here and can put more than 8 gallons of > gas > > > into > > > it? > > > > > > > If you fill your gas tank all the way to the filler neck on a regular > basis > > you will clog your fuel filter and destroy your fuel pump. > > > > When you overfill there is gas flowing into the charcoal canister (not > just > > fumes). The gas is then sucked back into the tank under normal operation. > > The charcoal canister is full of dust and other deposits (air continuously > > flows through the canister) which are dissolved in the gas and introduced > to > > your fuel tank. > > > > Bye, > > Leon > > > > > > |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD231A0.98526E3E@interbaun.com... > Spam Trap Account wrote: > > > > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > > I > > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > > and > > is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( the "lame thing" is actully that door thing just inside the and under the fuel cap. In Europe, cars don't ahve those, and you can easily fill to the brim (I used to do it 3 times a week, for 7 years, and never had a drop spill out. well, maybe a little. thats with me filling right to the brim, and even rocking the car as well (back when we had the fuel strikes in the UK in the summer of 01 you got all you could, when you could) to get any air bubbles out that were there. It gets just as hot int he UK as the Us as well, this past summer London was as hot, if not hotter, than here in Georgia most days. I've no idea what that flap/trap thing is for either. Its not needed to make the pump shut off (european fuel pumps shut off too, its works on a float-switch, I believe). > > 'Curly' > > --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD231A0.98526E3E@interbaun.com... > Spam Trap Account wrote: > > > > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > > I > > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > > and > > is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( the "lame thing" is actully that door thing just inside the and under the fuel cap. In Europe, cars don't ahve those, and you can easily fill to the brim (I used to do it 3 times a week, for 7 years, and never had a drop spill out. well, maybe a little. thats with me filling right to the brim, and even rocking the car as well (back when we had the fuel strikes in the UK in the summer of 01 you got all you could, when you could) to get any air bubbles out that were there. It gets just as hot int he UK as the Us as well, this past summer London was as hot, if not hotter, than here in Georgia most days. I've no idea what that flap/trap thing is for either. Its not needed to make the pump shut off (european fuel pumps shut off too, its works on a float-switch, I believe). > > 'Curly' > > --------------- |
Re: 03 Civic Si fill up issue.
"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:3FD231A0.98526E3E@interbaun.com... > Spam Trap Account wrote: > > > > I've noticed when filling my car that the "filled" shutoff triggers way to > > early. Now I know that you are not supposed to top off you tank but seeing > > I > > can fit another 3 gallons into the tank after this starts (very slowly) it > > certainly does not seem correct to me. More than doubles my fill up time > > and > > is pretty annoying. > --------------------------------- > Mr. Trap, > > It only takes longer to fill it if you disobey the terms of your > warranty and overfill it intentionally. The people are content to do > what the book says are half way home while you're goofing around. > > If you won't believe the book, call the fire department (or the EPA) and > see if they think Honda is just pulling your chain for writing such a > lame thing in their owner's manual. :-( the "lame thing" is actully that door thing just inside the and under the fuel cap. In Europe, cars don't ahve those, and you can easily fill to the brim (I used to do it 3 times a week, for 7 years, and never had a drop spill out. well, maybe a little. thats with me filling right to the brim, and even rocking the car as well (back when we had the fuel strikes in the UK in the summer of 01 you got all you could, when you could) to get any air bubbles out that were there. It gets just as hot int he UK as the Us as well, this past summer London was as hot, if not hotter, than here in Georgia most days. I've no idea what that flap/trap thing is for either. Its not needed to make the pump shut off (european fuel pumps shut off too, its works on a float-switch, I believe). > > 'Curly' > > --------------- |
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